What's wrong with today's youth?

Discussion in 'Old Hippies' started by Rev Van, Dec 30, 2006.

  1. OldTroll

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    Rev Van - - Are you out there putting your ass on the line like the kids did in the ‘60s? No one’s gonna do shit until it’s conscripts coming home in boxes.

    aguest - - Yep … started being a full-time Mr. Mom in '87 when #1 son was born. My wife was climbing the corporate ladder. I was 53 at the time.



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  2. Psychedelic Rocker

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    Yeah, I remember those protests....then the weather turned colder and the protests stopped.....spring came, warm weather, and they released X BOX 360 or whatever they call it....and everyone forgot there was a war.

    I never protested in my life....but soon as Obama takes over and fucks everything up...I'll be leading the charge to the White House.

    Got a revolution -- got to revolution!
     
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  4. Asmodean

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    I'm not so sure there aren't any youth movements. Maybe they're just doing their own thing though, and maybe they aren't really in movements, but just scenes. And didn't the older generations planned the future for the kids in the sixties? Who cares what's planned for us, we have at least as much personal freedom as back then. I don't see why that's a problem for the individual youth of today.
    Lots of music nowadays doesn't glorify our lifestyle neither. You may not dig the music but there are lots of different things going on. Maybe that's what stop the youth from connecting to a movement: all the different things going on, everyone focussing on what they like best. Although you had that also in former decades, nowadays you just have a lot of different scenes going on, from trendy to underground.

    Well yeah, I don't get what you're talking about. Must be a small group reading about the sixties and hanging in their laid out paths and following the for them preanalyzed ways. I see lots of people finding their own way, so..
    Of course everything's for sale, I agree, but some people don't get you still have the fucking choice to buy it or not! Internet is the one place that hasn't been conquered and controlled? What the fuck! The world is fucking yours if you want it/can handle it! Lots of places, culture and people to discover my friend. Don't kid yourself! Lots of places aren't controlled more then 50 years ago and when they found it to be controlled too much back then, they just travelled to experience other places. That can still be done (in fact lots of people do). And even if places are controlled it's the art of feeling and being free in those places. Not talking about drug indulgence here :D, but freedom is a lot of times a mindset anyway.
    So what people want an xbox360? I like to play a console once in awhile as well. Of course you have people that can't moderate their material needs if it's about that, and yeah, maybe there are more people that can't then back in the day, but is that holding other people back? Far from all for sure.
    And oh oh, there isn't a concrete hippie movement on the barricades.. so what! I know lots of people doing their thing to help make the world a better place. Seems to me they're doing the right thing, instead of dreaming about a revolution and think they should protest against something. That times change doesn't mean motives change. I guess it's the action that changes. Don't be fooled because kids hanging too much in front of the telly and the computer (which is just as much to blame on the parents if you ask me!), lots of young people are willing and trying to contribute to a better world.
     
  5. Cultivator

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    This sucks..I just think that the goverment is making my generation work so much that we dont even think about protesting. Everyone makes a big deal about school. About your future. About your Interest. I just wanna live and be happy. Imagine that. My generation sucks a big wiener!!! Im upset alot by it. I wish i could have been born in the golden years. I would have been happy. I am a true hipppy in a diferent time. I would protest any day. I just want to get my stupid diploma then start doing what i want. I feel like i dont wanna even see the next poor generation. i hate cellphones by the way. and i do got a Ipod, just for my psycadelics-to-go. I love all of you. Old and new. But Come on. Live and stop being a Robot! please..
     
  6. Amazing Grace

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    The youth of today are involved. Look how Obama brought out the most youth in a very long time. My kid has been going to protests, rallies, concerts, etc. since she was born. She's almost 17 and she and her friends worked the polls, go to protests, write poems, they are anti-war, pro-choice, against the No Child Left Behind Act, for the Lilly Ledbetter Act, debate Supreme Court cases in high school and want to be more involved than we were but after going through eight years of Bush's administration everyone is skeptical of big brother.

    Don't count the kids of today out. Something they may have learned from us is to work within the system to change the world.
     
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    I sure hope that you are right Amazing Grace!
     
  8. Hippie McRaver

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    I disagree with the older folks saying that the youth does not contribute to anything because of technology, granted im sitting in my room, but this post I am writing here will be sent across the world, a potential 6 billion people will read what we have to say and consider it our point of view if they believe in it. Going to coffee shops and discussing current events and having grass roots peace rallys with a handful of people don't do a dam thing, nobody cares. However, say I put a video on youtube of a cop violating civil rights, or killing someone, of I create a website exposing the abuses and liberties of the federal government, anybody with the time and the will can google what they want to see and BOOM, all of us unmotivated, lazy, perceived uselss generation just took five seconds out of our day and broadcasted our thoughts to the entire earth. Political activism is more than standing in the street with a sign, on the internet I have signed countless petitions and spread the word of the liberal agenda, and I didnt even have to leave my room.
     
  9. Hippie McRaver

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    Now that hit the nail on the head, that is how the youth sees things. Why ask for change, when we can take power.
     
  10. shameless_heifer

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    Which youths are we talking about, generation X or generation Y? Gen X we screwed up royally. bc they didn't do shit about shit. I have more faith in Gen Y.

    I dont know, cant say why or who dunnit. I don't know if it was us hippies or the devil (gov)

    The Hippies were Warrior Angels ( ya know not all angels sit on clouds playing harps dontcha) We came to make necessary changes for the peacenicks when they get here.

    We were the pioneers that blazed (and I mean BLAZED) a path for the ones that follow. BC of LSD-25, DMT, and a few other mind altering substances, we were a little ahead of our time. The Experience jumped us up a couple of generations, consciousness wise.

    The ones that did not 'endulge' did not evolve along with us, creating a gap inbetween. We lost our connection with them as brothers and sisters as they would not change their distructive ways. Distructive to humanity and Mother Earth.

    As (straights)They catch up with us, as they are doing now bc we put it out there, having to face the reality of their distruction upon the fabric of life itself they are now starting to realize what we were screaming at them 40 yrs ago.

    As they realize their mistake bc it is in their face and they can no longer deny it exists, as they sleenk and slither out the back door, the waves we made back then are finely reaching the distant shore and closing the gap.

    Everyone knows that there is dire need for change before we distroy ourselves and the planet we live on. They believe us now.

    Generation Y ( baby boomers g'kids) will be the ones who bring the new age in. It will be them that create/manifest real change as we wean ourselves off from government rule.

    As their time grows short and is almost at it's end, new ways come into focus and the light returns to conqure the darkness we humans in our ignorance have created that surrounds the Earth.

    So I do have hope for our race and our planet through Gen Y. Our reinforcements have arrived.

    sh
     
  11. LSduncan

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    I think you all have very valid points. I think we should recreate some type of counter culture, I can already see it happening in my area. I go to many small festivals in maine where i live and everyone is so for change and fixing problems through love and peace. It is hard to step up and take responsibility, that is what most of us young peopole have a problem with, we all want the same thing, but everyone is to stoned to get off there ass and fight for it. I do see "hippie" culture coming back by the ass load, as far as traveling, styles, music, and state of mind. so lets do it, lets start a new revolution
     
  12. Soclosetolife

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    Perhaps the lack of media coverage has discouraged you. (If it is not on TV it didn't happen, right?) But I would like to inform you all the revolution has already started!!! Join in or sit out but please stop announcing that it is still waiting in the wings.
     
  13. ninjarilla

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    The internet is most certainly the future. I read in a mass media textbook the other day, "anarchy rules the internet." This struck me as very profound at the time. The internet is such an integral part of our culture now. ANY person's thoughts can be broadcast around the world in a number of different media.

    The key here is creative thought. Those who wish to make a change in our world must be able to think creatively. Creativity breeds change. Expressing counterculture ideas in a unique way that will capture sympathetic attention will draw people to its cause.

    Technology can destroy minds. But those who can understand and control it can turn it into an infinitely powerful tool. The next revolution will be informational.

    The problem is that there are 54 people in the mariuana forum, 73 in the psychedelics forum, and 1 person in the protest forum, 1 person in the politics forum. This apathy must be defeated.
     
  14. Tambet

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    I believe the new revolution is coming. More and more frequently I hear people saying that the world is really going down the drain and I also hear people of my age saying, that they wish they could have lived in the 60s.

    The 90s Baby boom generation is reaching its age and is going to rise. And now with all that Economy crisis and fear of wars, a revolution is quite soon to come.

    Half of my class are anarchists and animal rights advocates. This monday a girl from my class was even labeled a potential terrorist by the media.

    The internet is an extremely powerful tool, but there also needs to be a more open activism, so the people with doubts could see, that they are not alone.

    So, not all hope is gone. All we need is a good push and some love, motivation and help from you old hippies.



    Tambet
     
  15. smokeybear2

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    you said it my man, ive got all the love we'd need
     
  16. MrDot

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    lol Protesting and riots are not a "civil" way of stopping it. Fight fire with fire, signs wont do shit.
     
  17. Asmodean

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    Too bad going to protests and starting revolutions aren't 'the thing to do' anymore, but we can't blame today's youth for that.
     
  18. MatchboxAwakening

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    I agree and think there should be a new revolution, but its a different world. the man made it so all kids care about is x-box and american idol. also they dont tell us much about the war. If u wanna know u have to look for yourself, wich is difficult for the apathetic generation, thats just the way we were raised. so the gov can control us easier
     
  19. Asmodean

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    Tssk, we're not more an apathic generation than the former. I really hate it when only one generation is blamed. If it goes wrong now it's today's youth fault? What the fuck!
     
  20. smokeybear2

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    wait man, you ever think that maybe all these video games and shit theyeve been putting out since the 70s and all the movies and shit is to keep youth in their houses and off the fuckin lawn of the whitehouse throwin eggs? i mean really, digg this, if kids are in there houses and entertained, theyre not gonna go protest cause theyve got all they need in their room, they dont care about what the governements doin to the fuckin american youths in iraq and shit because it doesnt affect the kids at home..thats why we have all these fat kids man because they digg the xbox way too much friend..
     

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