What Would Conservative Jesus Say?

Does it have your name and face on it? Is it marked with your stamp?

Does it say legal tender with your family symbol?

Just speaking truth.

So, you are a self-made man, are you?

Never used any public resources, I bet.

So, let me guess. You created your own money and pay no taxes back into the system, build your own roads, have your own police, right?

Is it a gated community, btw?

 

i asked the question! i am not sure how i avoided my own subject[/quote]

I'm sure you're smart enough to see the racism/sexism in Affirmative Action. Who is discriminated against? Asians, Whites, Guys, Jewish people most predominately.

equal oppurtunity = blacks/women allowed in colleges, not handing out money.

Equality under the law.

and this is how you justify theft?

you sound like a broken record

want some pom poms?

a fair shake is keeping what you earn.

 

i hope you sign your check right over to the government since its not 'yours.' It would be ashame if you claim ownership of something that isnt yours.

 

Yes, white, affluent, men have just been so oppressed throughout history.

Poor Bill Gates. Poor Warren Buffet.

Your cop-out on Equal Opportunity is typical, but you fail to state a firm grasp of the EOE laws.

And luckily, they are in place and not your Elitist Opportunity Employer laws.

Also, you like to cherry-pick your argument and try to frame them. Notice you avoid certain issues to pick one thing I said and try to pounce on it. However, equality isn't just your Republican version of "negative equality" (leave me alone), but "positive equality" (equal opportunity and level playing fields) as well.

Until you realize that, our debating this particular subject will do nothing but go in circles and my compassion for others will sound like a broken record to the apathetic--leave me alone type.

Unless, of course, we are speaking of gays or women's uteruses--in which case, Conservatives feel IS their business.

 

No, I pay my fair share of taxes to government. I keep a percentage to live on and have a leisure with. That's the way it works, pal.

It's not either NO TAXES or 100% TAXES.

Yes, legal tender is property of the Federal government in the sense they is our National currency and was created as such by the Federal government. If you want to barter with something else--good luck!

 

my copout on equal oppurunity is typical? To be judged for what you have done, and not the color of your skin or by the sex you were born? What a joke.

Please, stop perpetuating sexism and racism in this country. WE HAVE HAD ENOUGH OF IT!

 

Learn more about EOE laws before you spew your conservative propaganda. Equality isn't a joke.

And...Please stop attacking ANTI-DISCRIMINATION laws set forth by our Nation and promoting your elitism, racism and sexism! WE HAVE HAD ENOUGH OF IT!

 

its not YOUR MONEY. After all, it doesnt have YOUR name on it! What makes you think you have any right to your money?

Don't be foolish. We can deem things acceptable like roads and schools without going to 100% taxation.

You don't own the physical bill, you own the value that the bill represents. What a silly waste of an argument you're putting forth here.

 

lol...anti-discrimination! you can call it that, but lets not pretend it is.

 

Awww...did you find a red herring in order to avoid the issues? I've already explained that. Read the above posts. Or continue to ask the same question I've already answered.

More spin. I said it is NOT either "No Taxes" or "100% Taxes", pal. Don't try to work your spin on my words. No one will buy it. It's right here for all to see. The progressive tax is our system.

Secondly, so you ARE saying that the rich are more valuable human beings than the poor? Because they have more green government paper or material possession? Ain't that what capitalism is all about? Worth based on CAPITAL?

 

Yep. That is what EOE laws do. Stop people like your Conservative buddies from determining the worth of someone based on their monetary value or how much you don't want gays or blacks in the workforce.

You may not be racist or sexist, but you sure get passionate taking up for those who practice this horrible inhumane way of life.

What WOULD Jesus Say--getting back to the subject of this thread...once more *ahem*...

 

Now you're just making shit up. I have said NOTHING about wanting to bar gays or blacks from the workforce.

I have said NOTHING about valuing humans by their monetary worth.

you are setting up strawmen to attack

I'm sorry that i'm against discrimination. I dont know how decrying AA makes me a defender of "those who practice this horrible inhumane way of life." I think that makes a crusader AGAINST that

 

i wont pretend to speak for him.

 

Just read what he says. It speaks for itself.

 

Ooo...DEFENSIVE...

You are against "discrimination" yet opposed to anti-discrimination laws. *rofl*

 

EOE law states, "Not all employers are required to implement an affirmative action program, generally government entities and federal contractors. Where the employer is required to have an affirmative action program in employment, the organization must compare the incumbency of females and minorities performing specific jobs to the availability of those groups in the recruitment area where the employer finds its employees.When there is a job opening for that particular job group, the organization must take Good Faith Efforts to recruit qualified minorities and females or whatever group is underutilized.The organization accomplishes this by advertising the job with organizations who might be able to refer qualified minorities and or females applicants. However, once the applicants apply, in theory the organization is required to select the most qualified candidate and cannot make employment decisions based on race or sex even where there is an affirmative action goal."

 

I think the problem here is that you believe in the boogeyman conservative. The ones left wingers like to fantasise about as a motivating tool. The one that holds all the wrong views together in one nice little package for you to hate.

But conservative can mean school vouchers instead of monopoly state schooling. It can meen privatising social security, not eliminating it. It can mean a lot of things.

You might want to take notice of the fact that so many on the left think the probem is that the country is too stupid to see the superiority of their views. They can't even figure out why the people they want to "save" don't even support their views.

 

You mean "boogeyman" like ANN COULTER? PATRICK BUCHANAN? JERRY FALWELL? PAT ROBERTSON? TOM DELAY? BILL O'REILLY? RALPH REED? DICK CHENEY? JOHN ASHCROFT? GEORGE W. BUSH?

Those mass icons of the Conservative movement?

Well, I guess you're right then, Pointbreak. The Boogeyman Conservative, unlike many boogeymen, has proven itself a REAL entity.

And yes, you are right. There are elitists on both sides. However, that goes without saying on anything. Extremists exist in anything.

We are not talking extremism as much as the whole cloth of the Conservative philosophy, it's hijacking of "Jesus" and his REAL views as opposed to theirs. This thread got off the subject, but it's been good.

 

I don't think jesus wanted that either.. ?

 

Really? I don't think I ever read where he said anything pertaining to it.