What Will You Do When The System Collapses?

HHB, We had a Brine Box back in the 70s and it worked very well.. kept the hog meat in it.. lasted a long time.... and a smokehouse would be a good thing to have also.. I will get Lynn to start working on that asap, well at least get it on his To Do List..

 

Another option for Water could be to dig out a 500+ Gallon Cistern to store caught rain water, and while Solar might not be ideal for typical power usage around the homestead, perhaps it could be used for keeping a bank of batteris charged which could power a Water distilation unit or an air pump with an Ozone generator to keep it from getting stagnant and overrun with algae?

 

Perhaps China would be the better place to be.

The fundamentals of China’s economy have not changed and, as envisaged, macroeconomic adjustments are beginning to work.
Despite the negative shocks of the financial crisis, China will accelerate transformation of the growth model, promote domestic demand—especially household consumption—and maintain fast and stable growth.
Through reforms, financial institutions have enhanced their profitability and resilience.
The market remains liquid and the financial system is broadly sound.
It is of the utmost importance—particularly for the capital market—that China maintains economic and financial stability. We have every confidence in China’s ability to do so.
For a country with a population of 1.3 billion, its greatest global contribution is to sustain fast and stable economic development.​

http://www.imf.org/External/AM/2008/imfc/statement/eng/chn.pdf

Though as I have been told we are talking about if the system collapses.

I guess in that respect it does matter where you live.​

I do know though China makes considerable contributions to the IMF and World Bank.

Plus use the IMF : http://www.imf.org/external/np/fin/...type=repchg&overforth=f&schedule=exp&extend=y

They are not as isolationist as they were once were.​

 

Yea, I keep trying to buckle down and studt the Mandarin dialect but I keep letting myself get distracted.

 

that's would be terrible~



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Odon, I believe the whole world economy collapsing is what is being talked about and yes that would be a very bad thing.

As for this money pot you mention, that's exactly what it is a pot of money but it will have no value. Imagine taking a wheelbarrow full of money to the store just to buy a loaf of bread. It's not hard to imagine because that what happened in Germany just before WWII and that’s what could happen now world wide. Even the Bible predicts one day, people throwing their “money” in the streets because it is no help to them.

 

umm, i can think of 101 uses for worthless paper,i dont think i would throw it in the streets under any circumstance.

if nothing else it will make a decent toilet paper in a pinch...

 

I hope my little chart helps me explain.
If it does not I'm going to give up

Fair enough.
But, my question is: Is that it? THE END of economies? (That would be scenario Blue.)
If that's the case, i'll look into "living off the grid".
That is not so frightening.

Just reading this thread it seems people are teetering on different edges though, so some clarification would be nice.
Are we talking about Red White or Blue (I'll explain them all first)?




The way I am thinking is Red.
There is a slow slip into a recession (even Depression).
But, the "pots of money" help secure liquidity and keep the worlds markets afloat.
So we may slip down but at the same time we have the mechanisms to grow (hopefully).
I think Gordon Brown said: 'We'll spend our way out of recession'.
Which also means he will have to borrow.
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/business/news/well-spend-our-way-out-of-.htmlssion-967522.html

The reason the German economy failed and their money failed is because nobody else bailed them out apart from America.
Inturn the US was dependant on re-payments while also seeing it's own economy fail.
So basicaly two economies were dependant on each other.

That is not the case today.

As I am sure you will know, because of the Depression and WW2 this occured: United Nations Monetary and Financial Conference: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Nations_Monetary_and_Financial_Conference
Subsequently, intergovermental monetary funds/agreements occured, such as the IMF and The World bank.
Did any of this exist to help Germany or even the USA? I don't think so.

Evidence of this Red scenario could be (Skip said):

What is the Value Today? About the same as it was prior to the Dollar dropping against the Euro.

If the white scenario occurs, then that is the worst of all, as we would be attempting to retain our economies but: the system would collapse completely, we do nothing to stem its decline, we would have to fight very hard to get it back.
Indeed, the value of money would be nothing but bits of paper.

 

you can make graphs while the system collapses...

I'm gonna run around singing "jesus gonna be here" by tom waits..

 

the same thing most people will do. try to make do and get on with their lives.

 

Yes but which colour are we talking about?
Which one are you preparing for?

You could be listening to Dolly Parton for all I care
BTW, how long does that song last 3-4 minutes.
What ARE you gonna listen to for the rest of the time?

 

Bombs, bitches, babies, bollocks, bullets, bikes, bastards, booze, you know...

I'm talking about that green color, dogg

 

How old are you.
I had a weird thought, the other day, you were 65.

 

How'd you know...?
Weird...

 

Moment of clarity.
If you are 65, it explains a lot.
If you are infact about 23-25 I'd get some help.

 

thanks for the advice, it does explain a lot . .

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gC0GWKh26jU

Lovely how one crisis after another keeps drawing our eye's away from the underlying crisis of exponential population expansion.

Food shortage, or too many eating?

Energy crisis, or too many with the lights on?

Economic crisis or too many greedy mouths trying to gobble down their piece of the pie before it's gone?

 

I was thinking wall paper it is pretty durable stuff you know,

 

Odon, I don’t think anybody here really wants any of them to happen, it would be nice if things went on as they always had but we all know that is not sustainable.

So I would guess the answer to your question would be everybody here is hoping for your red but expecting and planning for your blue.

You’re correct in saying that is not the case today but not the way you think.

Today it’s not just two economies, it’s a world wide economy. The US is the major part of that economy, having by far the largest GNP in the world, if that collapses the world economy goes with it.

As for the Dollar stabilizing against the Euro, that says more about the instability of the Euro than of the stability of the Dollar, trust me.

So it looks like some hard decisions need to be made by people in authority and fast, even then we’re in for some serious belt tightening.

So basically that is what this thread is about, how we go about tightening our belts without standing in line for food.

Face it there are really only three material things of value in the world and those are food, water, and shelter, followed closely by tools and clothing. Everything else are luxuries that we can do without.

 

That is reasonable.

One other thing, why is it the first whiff of trouble Americans are whipping out there guns