What should the age of consent be?

Not a school anymore, this is true. I never had sex at school back in my time and this was 20 years ago. But the numbers you gave were mostly the same in my generation, starting or 12 or 13, by the time we were 15 a virgin girl was rare, and boys while less rare were also a minority. The big difference is (my secondary school years went from 2003 to 2007) we were given condoms free at school.

 

I just want to point out that while there is age of consent laws everywhere, they're not going to stop those who are under that age from having sex. I very much remember being in school - junior and senior high school - and damned near everyone was having sex and in every place we could get away with and despite the fact that where I live and at that time, the age of consent was 16. As Lara said, virgin girls were very damned rare and so were guys who hadn't done it for some reason but, yeah, no one gave a shit about something that we didn't know about - but some girls would find out when someone they couldn't legally have sex with got their attention and trying get into those panties, like, if she was 15 and the guy trying to get her was 21 or older. Parents would freak out if their 15-year-old daughter was seeing a 16-year-old guy because the parents were aware of the AOC law but would tell both of them that they weren't old enough.

I know I got told not to have sex until I was old enough, but no one wanted to tell me what that meant... and it didn't stop me from having sex even though the AOC - and as I may have mentioned earlier - was a surprising 10-years-old! But I didn't find that out until I was an adult and doing some research on AOC's history in my home state.

 

A lot has changed. I think the no more sex at school thing is based on the ramifications of the fabricated aids scare. People became truly afraid their kids would catch a deadly disease from their classmates. I doubt the perpetrators thought through consequences while too busy concerning themselves about being put on the chopping block for targeting demographics. That's also the impetus behind the big push for free condoms for everyone, including kids.

Other things that changed include the freedom to smoke. We were allowed to smoke outside the building, just not crowding the doorways. It was a nice break. We smoked as much pot in the open at school as we did cigarettes. We'd pass joints and pipes and nobody bothered us. I even carried a water pipe around. We got high every day, starting right in front of the school before the bell. After school we'd go motorcycle riding and getting high.

When I started driving at 16, there were no dui/dwi laws. There was a law "18 to drink" but we drove around for fun, beers in hand, smoking weed. And we would street race. The weirdest thing of all is that I don't remember anyone getting hurt or killed from any of that. Either you signed up to handle it, or you did something else. Nowadays it's common for people to blame other people and things for their own stupid actions. There's was a time they were laughed into oblivion, so people minded their Ps and Qs. Maybe that will make a comeback someday.

 

Most of us were told to wait until marrying the person with whom you wanted to spend your lifetime. We got drilled about supporting kids and shotgun weddings. The truth is from experience is that the people we really liked having sex with were not the ones with whom we wanted to sign up for a lifetime. They enjoyed it and were great at it, always wet and ready, no excuses, let you finish where you liked (which was almost always inside) and finding a place was never a problem as anywhere slightly obscured from open view was fine. There was no wining or dining or getting to know them. You burn a joint or have a cigarette together maybe. Good people just looking to enjoy life. But once both are done getting off, clothing secured and gone separate ways, she hooks up with the next guy willing and I hook up with the next girl. It was hard to reconcile that kind of impulsiveness with dedicating your life to another person and together to the kids you make. But as an older person, I can see how it could be manageable given the right mindset.

 

What’s sad is I was quite active early, but because of the laws in place in most countries, I’m generally afraid to even talk about it! But probably a lot of that early experience became who I am today? It’s amazing that kids can do sex changes so young, but are scorned from actually having sex.

 

Wish I could answer you! Haha!

 

I got introduced to sex at a young age and I have zero regrets about it because I wouldn't be the person I am right now if it hadn't happened - and I love who I am. Our societies would love to believe that youngsters shouldn't and can't know anything about sex but, um, yeah, they most certainly do find out. These days, it seems like society would prefer that they have sex than to change their gender...

 

For some countries the age of consent runs around 14 or16 (Yes there are countries that allow a girl as young an 8.) in the U.S. the age in some states is 16, but while many of the countries around the world have laws making it eighteen to 21. At MY Age, I prefer women that are more mature noy only with her body, but he mind and soul. 35 and up work better to me,

 

I took my first dick at the ripe old age of 12 and trust me i was actually happy it happened.
I'm not saying everyone should as we are all different and mature at different rates but if you know in yourself it's time then that should be upto yourself although seeing how todays kids act i'd be inclined to put their legal age upto fourty as then they'd maybe have grown some sense by then.

 

True consent to marriage and sexual relations - which is what this is about, I think - probably can’t be given by a boy or a girl until at least 18. That it is legally lower in some countries and even in some states does not mean those of 14 or 15 can rationally consent. Just because she ovulates or he produces sperm doesn’t mean the brain is formed enough to really consent.

Like others, I think the legal age to drink, drive, fuck and kill should all be the same, and for me that would be 18.

 

I was found by my parents naked and playing with a neighbor girl when we were both only six, and had a neighbor boy taste my cum at only 11, but there is no way in hell any of us were old enough to give true consent!

 

Not "true consent" but "legal consent;" the two things are not the same. If your neighbor wanted taste your cum and you said, "Okay, dude!" then consent was given... but not the legal kind and chances are you (1) weren't aware of the age of consent laws where you lived/grew up and/or (2) even knew what the word 'consent' meant. Here's the thing that fucks our society up: We know that underaged sex happens all of the time and while some parents work hard to squash it in their offspring, some "allow" it under the "experimenting" heading and it's "okay" as long as no one complains or gets hurt. Now, is this legal under local age of consent laws? Hell, no, it isn't but if someone asks you if you wanna do it and you want to do it and say yes, you consented but if you're underaged, that's not going to hold water in a court of law if what you did went sideways.

The other thing about age of consent laws is... not everyone obeys the law. Like my sergeant in tech school told us one weekend, "It not illegal if you don't get caught - so don't get caught!" and there you have the whole thing about AOC laws and... human nature.

 

Good point. I guess I was thinking about legislators deciding when a generic 14 yo would be mature enough to consent to getting wedded and bedded.

I absolutely consented to my 10 yo friend having a taste of my 11 yo cock. I did not consent however to the pastor reaching for my junk in a tent when I was 16, and my sharp elbow let him know.

 

I understand that, in days gone by, it was "business as usual" for men to take girls for sex and as wives and a practice that society seriously frowned upon even though this was quite nor mal in a lot of cultures so the practice was reviled and probably gave rise to AOC laws in the sense of protecting children from the evils of sex, remaining pure and chaste until marriage and all kinds of stuff that meant well but was no match for (a) human nature and (b) those cultural norms that, essentially, spit in the face of Christian religious beliefs.

Our same society believed that anyone under, say, the age of 16 didn't know - and shouldn't know - a damned thing about sex and I'm living proof that I knew about it just fine and consented my ass off but, then again, some research revealed that the age of consent where I live was, at the time, 10. Shocking, right? And if you've seen "The Color Purple" and the scene where Mister came for Celie, married her, and deflowered her in gruesome fashion and she had no say in any of it and "consent" didn't mean jack shit in those times and the powers that be worked hard to eradicate this behavior in the US and... age of consent laws.

But, again, if your buddy wanted to taste your cock and cum and you said for him to have it, you consented; you kinda/sorta/maybe already knew about sex and blowjobs when, legally, you couldn't consent to it and you shouldn't have known about any of it. The laws, such as they are, are seriously flawed because, again, while they serve to circumvent sexual predation, they really can't do a damned thing if, yeah, buddy, your friend who is as underaged as you are wants to blow you and you're down with. Or, no harm, no foul, and I won't tell if you won't because I'd love for you to do that again.

I really have no idea how they came up with the ages for age of consent laws; I saw our laws go from 10 to 16 to 18 but with "exceptions" for those who are 16 and 17 and... what the fuck? Maybe they should have left the AOC at 16 but it presumes that a legal adult is the only person who can consent to sex and that's not the reality of things, is it?

 

A very long story hopefully kept short: many years ago I was working overseas where there were loose definitions and probably laws about what men could do with women and girls. I was at a farewell gathering and the host, a close friend of mine from that country, introduced me to his cousin. She was gorgeous and we were both single and throughout the night we grew closer and he grew more enthusiastic that she and I would partner up. I asked him how old she was and he said “old enough, she likes you!” She had spoken about how much she loved her studies and I did quick math that she was at least 19, possibly 20. I was 32.

got her to my apartment and we ended up in bed, and I didn’t force myself on her but did my best to convince her to fuck me. Didn’t happen.

next day at a late morning brunch, head clearing over coffee and eggs and my local friend came up excitedly and asked how it went . I explained it didn’t but asked him again - how old is she? At least 18?

She was 15. I’m glad I didn’t force anything on her but she nearly consented to what in most of the US would have been statutory rape. In that country legal age for matrimony was 16.

 

And then, there's that. Fifteen (or close enough) is legal AOC in other countries. Now, if you don't live there it's "When in Rome..." and you abide by the laws of the land. I find it interesting that you were glad that you didn't do something there that would be illegal in the US... when you weren't in the US. Think about that for a moment and you see how AOC in our society is understandably invasive and to the extent that we can't go to another country with different laws and, do the deed with a clear conscious. If you could marry a 16-year-old there, how old would she have had to be to consent to having sex?

Still, you handled the situation as your conscious allowed. Probably saved you from having to marry her.

 

I will repeat what I posted before. Young women and young men can drive a car at age 16. Driving gives them the freedom to go anywhere they want. I live next door to a woman with a 19 year old young man and a 16 year old girl. Within minutes after the woman leaves for work no less than six cars park in our neighborhood and teenagers go in the front door and onto the house, The Rap music winds up and the aroma of pot fills the air. The daughter does go to school but the rest party til six PM.

 

As always good questions KD. At the time I was very much “native” in terms of cultural assimilation but considerations such as “mom, I want to introduce you to my GF. Don’t be silly, she’s not THAT young!” and my employer already having a US-based code of conduct in place, kept me a bit ashamed of what could have been. But my oldest amd dearest friend, working in the same country and from another one in the region, nearly slapped me on the face saying “if you don’t try again, somebody else will and soon. Possibly her father. Or me!” He was helping me understand that even if it were a one night stand, with her consent I could have been a good first time rather than a non consensual rape that was very likely to come.

In the end my northern hemisphere rational brain won out over my baser urges; by contrast, my Swedish friend met a 19 yo that same year and they’ve been together for nearly 40 years. But it is interesting how I held on to US based mores rather than what could have been just two people finding each other. Lots knows I’ve fucked a lot of (mainly) women significantly younger than I am since compared with the comparatively small age difference. But I’ve never dipped below the Mendoza line, which for me is 20. Ah those 20 yos!!!

 

I get it; that compulsion to not wind up in prison because of some "underaged sex" is pretty strong. They say that age ain't nothing but a number so it's not that big of a deal... except where AOC laws are concerned. If you're of legal age to have sex where we happen to be, we can and probably will have sex. Some 17-year-old wants to give me some and... I'm turning it down because I'm allergic to going to prison.