what religion was jesus?

Glad to see you weigh in on this subject Fuddy, always enjoyed our debates in the Chat room. Now I myself may not be a Christian but I do have quite a trust in the bibles historical accuracy. Please check out http://www.allaboutjesuschrist.org/historical-and-scientific-proof-of-jesus-faq.htm to see some of the proofs for Jesus, and the reasons we can trust the bibles historical accuracy. Also take a look at More than a Carpenter by Josh Mcdowell whom even tho I don't entirely agree with gives many convincing proofs that Jesus really did exist.

 

Jesus worshiped God "correctly" (i.e. Allah) therefore Jesus is Muslim

well he certainly was ahead of his time then...

Islam is a monotheistic, Abrahamic religion originating with the teachings of the Islamic prophet Muhammad, a 7th century Arab religious and political figure.


Jesus... he ain't heavy

 

Islam is a spin off of Judaism... they are simply another Book Religion, which is what they call the Jews and Christians.

 

Unfortuantly that URL does not account for the great number of inaccurasies of the new testament, all it does is tell us that it was written in a reasonable time after Jesus' alleged existence. The website mentions Tacitus, but he was born 100 years after Jesus supposedly lived, not to mention he lived quite a distance from Galilee, which means any information he knew of Jesus was second hand.

With Josephus, it is widely believed that the small blurb about Jesus is a forgery, probably from the Bishop Eusebius. When one takes time to read it, the mention of Jesus is clearly forced, and disrupts the flow of the text (according to some scholars).

Once again, I don't mean to say Jesus certainly did not exist, but their appears to be a reasonable doubt, which is why I think all this talk about which relgion he was may be in vain.

 

This is going way beyond available evidence.

That, I think, is a plausible scenario.

 

Speculative, yes. I wouldn't say "in vain". James, brother of Jesus and leader of the Jerusalem (Ebionite-Nazarene) community is well-documented, as is Peter, the top apostle at large. Paul was in contact with both.

 

yeah that true.... that where the word Abrahamic religion comes in

Abrahamic religions are monotheistic faiths which recognize a spiritual tradition identified with Abraham. The term is mostly used to refer collectively to Judaism, Christianity and Islam.

There are other religions included in the term, such as the Samaritans, the Druze, the Mandaeans, the Rastafarians and the Bahá'í.

Abrahamic religions account for more than half of the world's total population. Today, there are around 3.8 billion followers of various Abrahamic religions.

 

I concede the word vain is too strong. Allow me to call this speculation... mental masturbation, if you will. You may enjoy it while it lasts, but in the end you are left feeling unsatisfied (minus the load in a moist towel).

 

Abrahan and Isaac .... weeeeeee

where was the spin off of that .. or are you going to say they were the real thing??

No plagiarism there...

Who's myth did the Jews rewrite to fit their agenda?

 

Beware of no man more than of yourself; we carry our worst enemies within us.

 

Sometimes it hits the spot and is just "what the doctor ordered". I think some speculations are more plausible than others. The profile scholars like Crossan have put together of Jesus based on the historical evidence of his time and the chrononlogy and frequency of scriptural references is impressive and persuasive.

 

Not to be a bomb thrower, but was the Buddha a Buddhist?

 

Obviously not... his teachings were what eventually became Buddhism as we know it. Just like Lao Tzu not being a Taoist. We taoists simply follow his and many others teachings.

 

golly Indy ... just how many ships have you jumped off?

 

I suppose you are referring to my knowledge of so many religions but perhaps not. I study religion and philosophy and have for almost 7 years. I was born a jew, adopted into a christian family, then at the age of 14 I really started to question what I'd been raised on. Just a month ago I discovered taoism did alot of reserch on it and came to the conclusion that it had what I've been searching for.

 

Wisdom is the proper use of knowledge.
To know................ is not to be wise.

Many men know a great deal, and are all the greater fools for it.

There is no fool so great a fool as a knowing fool. But to know how to use knowledge is to really have wisdom.


There are many turns in the road and the road has been repaved so many times. There is longer any way to really know what the original plans were.

We can not proof or disproof ..Christ's Deity ... do the Xian's have to? . No they take it on faith and faith only.

The Bible has been revised so many times. It in itself contains many plagiarized stories. It was put out by a bunch of desert warriors who still to this day can not get along with each other. Jews, Muslims, and Xian all from the same tree, yet willing to genocide each other.On a flat earth belief system

Tao and Buddha make sense.... personally I go with Bumba myself..uke:

 

There is another old saying
"He who is self-approving does not shine. He who boasts has no merit. He who exalts himself does not rise high. Judged according to Tao, he is like remnants of food or a tumour on the body--an object of universal disgust. Therefore one who has Tao will not consort with such."

As such I seek not to exalt myself nor to boast of my knowledge, nor do I even approve of myself, I simply state that which I see and that which I understand. I am merely what I am and my knowledge is limited to the realms of this world. When I allow understanding to flow from Tao I know and through knowing I have it's wisdom.

 

As I’ve said before Jesus was a Jew by ancestry but did not follow the religious traditions of the Jews of his day but followed the form of true worship laid out in the Bible.

Jesus was not a Gnostic or an Essene and yes, he was called a Nazarene but that was because he came from Nazareth not because he followed some Nazarean sect.

Any connection between what Jesus believed and taught and these other sects or religions is merely coincidental, seeing as Jesus learned the truth directly from his Father during his pre-human existence, he would have no need to learn from other sources.

 

We are all at times unconscious prophets....

 

This view coming of course from the perception of one who is a Christian. I admire your faith OWB, but your assumptions come from the Christian theory that Jesus was the Son of God, perhaps if you would be so kind as to show us this reasoning in a different light so that it would give us something to show as a base.