What Opioids Are YOU On RIGHT NOW ?? (Part VII)

sounds healthy

took a 5/325 perc this morning right after breakfast (b/c they seemed to make me nauseous w/ empty stomach), and i got pretty nauseous like 2 hours later when my buzz was about the strongest. the nausea was slight, but it lasted 4 or 5 hours.

damn, you must have in some bad accident?

 

Also, this thread needs to get more people actually talking and contributing even if it isnt a personal bump at east ask questions and talk with others.

 

Been outta everything last 2 days, been doing a lotta roxys and tabs past year so the withdrawals really kicked in. Felt like crap as I,m sure everyone knows the feeling, anyways just scored 80 watson540 the white ones. I quess there the same as the blue ones, 10mg hydro and 500 of the amp. Took 5 of them a couple hours ago and just took 4 more. Feeling better but I,d trade them all for a few roxy 30,s. Oh well, can,t have everything. Gotta make these last until the old lady gets her script filled on the 13th.

 

that's a lot of APAP to eat in a day. your liver doesn't like that

 

Do a cold water extraction. Tedious but worth it in the long run. When you are popping 80 pills probably fairly quickly I am assuming.

 

Got to tell you i,m an older guy that boot a lotta dope in the late70,s did the coke thing thruout the 80,s [not crack] allways smoke weed. In the mid 90,s the pain set in from various accidents, broken bones not set correctly when i was young and stupid stuff like that. Got into the pain pills for obvious reasons. I,m down to around 35 left. Even with them last night first sleep since wed. Maybe 5hrs. Drank a lot in past also and liver started to get messed up. Stopped about completely 12 yrs. now but go to dr. twice year for bloodwork on it and its been fine. Surprises the fuck outta me considering all the bad stuff in some of the pain meds. Well i,ll stop babbling and get to the point. I just don,t know what a cold water extraction is unless your talking about trying to boot these things useing cold water. i don,t shoot nothing anymore and I don,t think I,d try it with these. Just call me a dumb 70,s street kid ha.ha.. but will someone please tell me what a C.W.E. is?

 

u crush the pills and put them in cold water. maybe you put in the freezer or fridge. the opiate is dissolved into the water (actually i'm not exactly sure, maybe the APAP is dissolved in water - u better look this up, there is prob a guide on here)

 

Here's a very easy step-by-step procedure with illustrations:

http://www.wikihow.com/Perform-Cold-Water-Extraction

 

Ya in essence the CWE removes all the harmful APAP from the solution , so you won't damage your liver. Happy dude posted a good guide. Use safely friend.

 

Thanks for answers on C.W.E. going to check out wikihow site now

 

It's very simple charliecat, a most basic extraction, acetaminophen is largely water insoluble while pharmaceutical additive prepared opioids (Oxycodone, Hydrocodone, Codeine, Morphine &c) are highly water soluble, and so it is a matter of separation by cold water. The amount of effort you put into it in being creative with filtration and patience will mostly determine the degree of separation, but it can easily be done by crushing the pills in a cup or a small bowl and adding cold water to it. Then put a filter (dampened coffee filter for most basic and readily available, next to tissue / toilet paper, which is never a great idea..) secured on top of another cup with fresh water, and pour the pill'd-up-water through the coffee filter and wait for it to drip down into the filtered cup with the water formerly known as fresh. Repeat as necessary with a new filter until the water is not cloudy, and drink it. As usual with any harm reduction education, extreme caution is advised; I can speak from experience when I say this, as I have been desperate and lazy about it in the past, and botched the job, deciding to drink the water anyway out of necessity and ended up pissing blood. I wince in pain to even type those words, but they need to be said (this 'extraction' was something like 15 10mg Percocets and was many years ago). A mistake I never made again. Personally, if I were still taking opiates proper (I've been on Suboxone for about 2 years now, and plan on perpetuating my situation) and were going to go through this kind of ordeal, I'd rather go the route of lancing poppies or making opium tea, but desperate times call for desperate measures..

 

Thanks Magic Rocks!!

 

I'm just using the last of my trams and surviving on kratom until the time I can get my next narc script. I'm experiencing back pain, like I've been run over by a truck. So very tired of chronic pain everyday.

 

About 15mg of Methadone today. Fri. I get my Hydrocodone refill. It's hard to believe, but I'm actually catching a decent buzz on 15mg of Methadone. It's nothing like the Hydros, but the shit lasts forever. I'll take 10mg at around 4pm, then another 5mg about 3 hours later, and I'm comfortable for 24 hours. My only complaint is that it takes so long to take effect. It takes about 2 hours before I really feel anything, and maybe another hour before it really takes hold.

 

Bump for yesterday .2 of some FIRE h. As much as I love using dope, after a few years now on and off, moderate to pretty frequent use, oddly enough for me Im not enjoying it much anymore. Got almost too high and was all clouded without that euphoria for some of today. Smoked some cannabis and that all went away.

BUMP for about 2 or so hours finding an old prescription of hydrocodone 5-500. Ate 4 of those just to ease my sleep a little tonight. FEELS insane to say but after 5 some years of opiate use, 3 of those pretty heavy compared to most people, I am losing that love for them. May seem silly to some but is a major development for me.

 

It sounds like you're just getting tired of it. It may be time to take a break and find a new drug.

 

I'm currently on day two WD from that insidious monster Tramadol! I swear when this is over I will never touch that nonsense ever again. Thought it was a nice diversion while waiting to get more Hydrocone/Oxycodone. Well, that shit became the source of my productivity! I don't know about anyone else, but Trams energize me, plus give me a very subtle opioid high. I could take it at work with no one the wiser, getting everything done so efficiently. No need for coffee, etc... Although I do like the effect of coffee with the Tram.

Anyway, Tram isn't even my DOC, however, here I am with my legs doing all sorts of strange things, mind racing. Thank god for Gabapentin and Loperamide, I am super aware that this could be much worse. Music helps chill me out some. Listening to MMJ. Helps. My feet are freezing, though. Anybody get that? I have three pairs of socks on, no dice.
Should be getting some Percs tomorrow, and I know that will be nice, although not as great as usual, what with all this sickness and RLS and shit. I will NEVER touch this ridiculous Ultram again. All this for something that I thought was going to be harmless. Everyone told me the shit was slightly stronger than Tylenol, no big deal. Tell that these shaky legs, my insomnia, and the f-ing nightmares!! Strange thoughts! Rambling, so sorry everyone.
BTW, just joined up, first time posting. I am however, a long-time fan of HF, having read many threads, lurking...helps a lot to read everyone's experiences when I am having a tough time. So hello

 

I had never really thought about wd's with Tramadol. Is it the same as regular opiate wd's? And believe me, if you take some percs while in withdrawal you'll enjoy it. It's like coming back to life. Like going from death warmed over to the top of the world in the space of 30 min.

 

Happydude, it is not the same. In certain aspects, yes, because of the opioid qualities, but there are SNRI qualities to Tramadol as well, and THAT is what effs me up. I feel like a completely different person in a way I never have while coming off regular opiate binges. You get these weird zaps all through your body like electricity. The worst is the brain jolts. Effs with your seritonin levels like an antidepressant. And it lasts longer. Like 3 weeks to a month. Last time I went through this I was able to taper. This time I have no choice but to go cold turkey, which scares the hell out of me. This is going to be bad. There is an elevated seizure risk with going CT. And knowing the stretch I have coming....fucking daunting, to say the least. Last time I did this, my Percs, Hydro...they didn't feel the same. Maybe because Tram has those other properties I'm used to? Dunno. I don't care though, I am through with that horrible shit. Occasional use is ok, great potentiator, but I would advise people to avoid getting hooked on it. Sooo bad. I was taking 800mg a day though.

 

800mg a day is indeed a lot of Tramadol. I haven't really used it much. Way back in 2000 when I first started having back problems they started me out on Ultram, but it didn't work so I didn't take it very long. Anyway, I went on Hydrocodone full time in 2003, and have been on that ever since, so obviously I'm dependent on that. About a month ago I ran out early and got some 50mg Tramadol's from someone for 50 cents each. I took 400mg per day for a few days, and that kept the wd's away surprisingly well. I didn't expect much from them, but I was pleasantly surprised. The only thing I didn't like was the headache. And I don't mean headaches (plural), but headache. A continuous headache that lasted the entire time I took them that even 4 aspirin wouldn't alleviate. But it was still worth it, because they kept the wd's away. But anyway, I hope you feel better soon. I figured that since it has a half-life that's more or less comparable to Hydrocodone that the wd's wouldn't last longer than 7-8 days, but if it lasts a month that sucks. But if you get your Percs maybe that will take care of the worst of it. I did a quick check, and it said to keep an eye on your blood pressure, because it can spike. It also recommended this: