What Makes One A Loser?

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  1. pensfan13

    pensfan13 Senior Member

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    How can you misspell it when the clip you posted had the correct spelling in it.
     
  2. mallyboppa

    mallyboppa Senior Member

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    Fate !
     
  3. pensfan13

    pensfan13 Senior Member

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    I'm gonna be using that one.
     
  4. Wu Li Heron

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    Exactly, according to most Christians I've come across anyone who is not a Christian, doesn't have mainstream values, isn't happily married, doesn't have children, and isn't a financial success is a loser. Sometimes you can make up for a deficit in one area by excelling in another, but those are exceptions to the rule.

    Notably, studies by even the evangelical Barna Group have indicated that fundamentalists have at least as bad social problems as everyone else who they commonly blame for all of their problems. They have at least as high divorce rates, child abuse, etc. with the one exception being the rare few among them who regularly volunteer the use of their own two hands in service to their fellow man. For me, that's the definition of a real loser is someone who has surrounded themselves with themselves and forgotten how to truly live and that giving of ourselves is how we become real winners.
     
  5. NoHobo

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    A lack of self esteem.
     
  6. Jo King

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    Poor decision making even when you have good advice.
     
  7. NoHobo

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    In losers' defense, most people cannot recognize that advice is "good" until after the fact.
     
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  8. Jo King

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    that's not a defence that's the definition of a lose.
     
  9. abarambling

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    I feel like a loser. I know I am a loser. It's just a feeling, I guess. Just something you know about yourself.
     
  10. SpacemanSpiff

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    i just always assume he's half in the bag


    ok maybe 3/4.....
     
  11. YouFreeMe

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    Really? Some of the highest quality and most successful people that I know have low self-esteem.
     
  12. abarambling

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    Maybe these people you know just have self-doubt and self-negativity every now and again, but don't essentially have low self-esteem. It's like how we all feel sadness, but only a few people actually have depression.
     
  13. Openmind693

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    The most interesting people for me are those that have no self-esteem.
     
  14. abarambling

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    People who have issues believing in their self-worth, whatever that may mean at the time, such as having trouble thinking they're good looking, smart, etc. People who have low esteem. And people with no self esteem.

    Is that all of them? Sounds about right.
     
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    Bitching and Whining about Donald Trump ..
     
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  16. Pressed_Rat

    Pressed_Rat Do you even lift, bruh?

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    The way I look at it, the ones who hate Trump most are the ones who ultimately got him elected, because people are sick of whiny, obnoxious libtards always forcing their view of what's right down other people's throats.
     
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    A good example of a loser would be someone who willfully ignores the proven security risk posed by a certain presidential candidate, and then proceeds to defend the character of that candidate despite being shown absolute proof of their willful, gross negligence . . . but I digress.
     
  18. Moonglow181

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    If that is what makes me a loser, then all I have to say is that I am happy that I am in good company. There are many people that I respect that feel the same way I do about the election results....
     
  19. egger

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    Being a music instructor is an option, especially considering you have an advanced degree in music. Performing musicians are known to have a second job as an instructor. Pianist Jaki Byard used to teach at the New England Conservatory of Music. He liked being able to earn a steady income helping young people learn about music. Writing and arranging for people is another option.

    Notable musicians have taken what could be considered mundane jobs. Jim Croce did working class jobs which later became part of the earthy appeal of his music. Harry Chapin's tune Taxi was based in part on his need to apply as a taxi driver when he couldn't find work in music. His Air Force background didn't pan out, thus the lyrics about him 'flying' his taxi. Harry said three film writing jobs opened up for him the day he was about to start his taxi job, so he never became a taxi driver. He was concerned about never becoming successful in music and being considered a loser.
     
  20. autophobe2e

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    I think it boils down to not confronting your problems.

    You can have really high or low self esteem, the thing that makes it a problem is when you use these as excuses not to change. The person with low self esteem says to himself "I'm a terrible loser and that's all I'll ever be, there's no point trying to change, I'll just fail" The person with high self esteem says to himself "I'm great, it's everyone else has got the problem, there's no point me changing." One of these sounds more full of itself/confident than the other, but they're both inherently cowardly options, letting yourself off the hook of real self-examination.
     
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