What is Truth?

Laughter keeps us from getting dizzy.

As a therapist pehaps you can understand the well known value of a sense of humor, and laughter for their benificial properties then.

I have always felt if you have to hold on to something that tightly then it really is'nt yours to keep, people in genral really need to lighten up in their judgements. I doubt any of your colleagues come here or your patients for that matter and to have them recognise you for who you are after 8 posts in two threads rainbow 365, is a real stretch.

You keep saying bye, but I am glad to see you come back, happiness contageous as well, I hope we infect you real good.

 

An opinion can be neither truth nor lie. An opinion is based on what someone sees or hears.One can easily have an opinion about anything but not know if what they base that opinion on is the truth. I always heard growing up..." Don't believe everything you hear and only half of what you see !" Truth is truth. There is no gray area in that. If something is not true or stated truely, that doesn't absolutely mean that the person stating it is a liar. They may be basing truth in their mind from something originally given to them as a lie. Man this is getting heavy ! Peace and Love !

 

As are good and evil so is truth
Value put by those who know not the Whole of it and would not recognize what IS

 

WELL PUT ! Peace and Love !

 

-Makes sense-So' the problem is at the source of said truth-Threin lies the problem and the solution-Pick your friends wisely and always insist that they not hand you a load of shit-works for me-You and Wolf are officially on my Xmas list!-

 

i would say you missed grandpa's point... "An opinion can be neither truth nor lie. An opinion is based on what someone sees or hears.One can easily have an opinion about anything but not know if what they base that opinion on is the truth."

yes, the problem is at source of truth, but that source is the perciever... it is the "I" or self, it is not another... we alone are the determiners of truth

truth is not of the mental realm

if there is a problem with what is truth, that problem is not outside of us but within our cognition and perception of the world

and neither is it of the realm of the senses

" Don't believe everything you hear and only half of what you see !"

"If something is not true or stated truely, that doesn't absolutely mean that the person stating it is a liar."

rob, you have this mindset of dividing people into the good guys and the bad guys... those who agree with you are the good guys and coincidentally, wise and those who disagree with you are the bad guys and responsible for all the ills of the world

rob, there is only one person here, every single one of us and we are all angels, i.e., good guys

 

Look-Unless you just find fun in getting me going-you might want to back off-I know exactly what they said and read it three times-Nowhere do the say that truth can be any thing you percieve it to be-thats rediculas-If it was that way-we as as a people would perish-No-You only PERCIEVE me to be sorting good from bad-Very-very untrue statement-It comes down to "time spent" and lessons learned in 57 years-There are liars' which I refuse to deal with-they waste my time and energy-then there's the rest of the world who I choose to hang with-whats the problem with that?-and then you dismiss my opinion; as to the context of those two posts-It's in the interpetation-and learning to really listen-sorry-you missed on this one-but-even still-Merry Xmas-anyway-

 

An opinion can be neither truth nor lie. An opinion is based on what someone sees or hears.One can easily have an opinion about anything but not know if what they base that opinion on is the truth-----What he said is very true-and opinion are really meaningless-They have no effect on truth-none-

 

What you said about picking your friends wisely reminded me of something else...another saying. "Keep your friends close and your enemies closer." That could apply to truth lies and opinions. Or more so, truth and lies. In this instance, truth being your friends, and Lies being your enemies. You want to keep the lies closest to you so that you can keep them from the truth and always be able to separate the two. It made sense in my head ! Peace and Love !

 

I think opinions are useful like sonar, you send them out and bounce them offa things to find out where the Truths are.


Like Molly said, it's all good.

 

Well sure-It's important to keep track of the enemy-but I won;t invite him or her to my next party-lol-I would say check you karma at the door-I have found myself running with some real shady people in the past and the decisions I had to make were for survival-They chose their way and I went mine-their dead; I'm alive-they chose to keep doing and living in self destructive lies and bs-Only when I could really put space between me and them would the real world of truth and love come back-I miss em-but I am happy to be alive-It took being honest with myself and others to get there-ain't no going back-

 

this is an opinion and not truth, as long as we agree on that, then i wish you a merry xmas

 

Many times I've tried to tell you, many times I've cried alone
Always I'm surprised how well you cut my feelings to the bone
Don't wanna leave you really, I've invested too much time
To give you up that easy, to the doubts that complicate your mind

(chorus)
We belong to the light, we belong to the thunder
We belong to the sound of the words we've both fallen under
Whatever we deny or embrace for worse or for better
We belong, we belong, we belong together

Maybe it's a sign of weakness, when I don't know what to say
Maybe I just wouldn't know what to do with my strength anyway
Have we become a habit, do we distort the facts
Now there's no looking forward, now there's no turning back, when you say

(chorus)
We belong to the light, we belong to the thunder
We belong to the sound of the words we've both fallen under
Whatever we deny or embrace for worse or for better
We belong, we belong, we belong together

Close your eyes and try to sleep now, close your eyes and try to dream
Clear your mind and do your best to try and wash the palette clean
We can't begin to know it, how much we really care
I hear your voice inside me, I see your face everywhere, still you say

(chorus)
We belong to the light, we belong to the thunder
We belong to the sound of the words we've both fallen under
Whatever we deny or embrace for worse or for better
We belong, we belong, we belong together

We belong to the light, we belong to the thunder
We belong to the sound of the words we've both fallen under
Whatever we deny or embrace for worse or for better
We belong, we belong, we belong together

We belong to the light, we belong to the thunder
We belong to the sound of the words we've both fallen under
Whatever we deny or embrace for worse or for better
We belong, we belong, we belong together

 

Is there music to that ?
just wondering how it sounds
love the sentiment

Have a good one

Namaste (my spirit bows to your spirit)

 

That's Pat Benetar, lol, awesome, what a blast from the past.


*ducks*

What were you doing in the 80's Old wolf?

 

she's been making rounds with that song on cmt... its touching... transcends just two people in a relationship but all beings here on earth

 

basically the same as I'm doing now -
Never did listen to much radio watch much tv ....read a lot - but not the kind of books most people do and hardly at all any more
Just Walking and every once in a while I get a wee bit too talkative but that really don't happen too often and as I walk more I tend to talk less.
just living my life - just a different drummer - aye ?

 

aye
Just curious where your head was then, every one is different so I like to ask. I though I was sheltered in the 80's because my parents only let us listen to fifties music and we wer'nt allowed to hang out with kids from school because they were 'heathens' so I kinda grew up alone in my room...so people that are further out of touch with mainstream culture than I am are always a novelty for me. Usualy I am the one getting teased for not knowing something eveyone knows. I guess there are always someones more and less of what ever we are.

I, as you can see have my own drummer as well, and we enjoy mingling :tongue:, from time to time, to each their own.

If I lived in the Hollow I would hardly leave either.


I hav'nt listened to CMT in a while, I go through phases, I always enjoyed when the kids would join in the chorus, they sound so sweet.
I'll have to turn it on and see if I can catch it.
You're so deep Molly.

 

the other pat benatar song "hit me with your best shot" also gives definition to some of these old hippie threads lately

 

Well youre the real tough cookie with the long history
Of breaking little hearts, like the one in me
Thats o.k., lets see how you do it
Put up your dukes, lets get down to it!
Hit me with your best shot!
Why dont you hit me with your best shot!
Hit me with your best shot!
Fire away!

You come on with a come on, you dont fight fair
But thats o.k., see if I care!
Knock me down, its all in vain
Ill get right back on my feet again!

Hit me with your best shot!
Why dont you hit me with your best shot!
Hit me with your best shot!
Fire away!

Well youre the real tough cookie with the long history
Of breaking little hearts, like the one in me
Before I put another notch in my lipstick case
You better make sure you put me in my place

Hit me with your best shot!
Come on, hit me with your best shot!
Hit me with your best shot!
Fire away!

Hit me with your best shot!
Why dont you hit me with your best shot!
Hit me with your best shot!
Fire away!