What Is The Purpose Of Helping Others?

Discussion in 'Agnosticism and Atheism' started by TheSamantha, Nov 18, 2015.

  1. Asmodean

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    Its often regarded as pretentious. If you didn't do it to impress or motivate others why bother them with it?
     
  2. Chigurh

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    If everyone gave because they've received, do you think race relations would improve?
     
  3. TheSamantha

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    Good question.

    There are two ways of looking at this: 1. members of a given race building each other up within that race 2. members of a race helping members of other races or the general population. Either way, I would imagine race relations would improve. Either races would pull themselves up like Asians did as a collective and change their image, gaining respect, or people would treat each other more as individuals.

    The only way I don't see this working is if members of a race built each other up at the expense of other races. That would lead to more competition and more racism.

    It's unfortunate things turn racial so easily though. If I were to make the offhand comment that "there's a lot of hate in the world," immediately, people's minds turn to race and they want to know what happened, what racism I was subjected to. If I'm asocial, it becomes "why are black people so antisocial?"
     
  4. Yogamat

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    Because it means you care!Its probably that simple!
     
  5. Yogamat

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    Because just knowing myself that I did something nice for someone,is enough.I dont need to tell everyone what I've been doing.
     
  6. Asmodean

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    They did? In what way? Can you give an example or two?
     
  7. Meliai

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    Back when my baby was in a stroller i always tried to struggle through the door when no kne was paying attention. I dont really like to be helped and people try to help you constantly with a child. Random people have offered to help me carry grocercies and stuff. And anytime, literally every single fuc king time I open my car hood in public to check something at least a couple of guys come over to help and then look insulted when I refuse. Its like, I got this guys. Struggling can be embarrassing and I would rather do it alone. If I really need help with something I'll generally call and bug a family member rather than accept help from a stranger.

    But the thing is, i know if I saw someone struggling with their baby gear in a doorway I would leap up and help them. I dont think that is so much empathy as just the way I was raised. People are a little too helpful in this region of the country lol
     
  8. Piaf

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    Every single fucking time???
    Wow what horrible pushy people
     
  9. Asmodean

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    The unfortunate side effect of looking good as a female :-D
     
  10. Meliai

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    I sense sarcasm.

    I mean, its fine that they do that. I like that people are helpful and polite. Maybe the word fucking made me sound more annoyed than I really am.

    I was just pointing out sometimes people don't really want help. It is still fine for people to offer to help, but it might not be wanted.

     
  11. Irminsul

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    Those bastards, needa keep out of personal space zone. That's your arm width. Spread your arms, hats your zone and you shouldn't have to deal with anyone in that zone.

    Now, attach razor blades to arm and do the windmill, be a blood fountain for real. ;)
     
  12. Asmodean

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    Personally I would not stop offering help until she hits me.
     
  13. heeh2

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    Purpose is something man made, like laws.

    We help each other because we need each other to survive. There is no human race without multiple human beings, or at the very least one man and one woman, and their offspring, ect.

    I guess that doesnt REALLY answer why though.

    Because there is no why. Some things are the way they are because that is just the way of the universe. A professor might tell you that helping people increases succesful reproduction rates (gets you laid) and the unhelpful jerks have been outbred.

    True genetic "strength" is diversity, so there are still jerks around getting laid, just not as many.
     
  14. Desera_xoxo

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    yeah its all about me :) Like I said it depends on who's helping someone. People have different reasons for helping others. Me, I like doing it cause when someone needs my help I feel compelled to do it and that makes me feel great knowing I helped someone. Sorry if this bothers you so much.
     
  15. hillbillyhippiechick

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    "When you understand that doing harm to another, is also doing harm to yourself ... you will begin to understand the great truth." - Lao Tzu (perhaps that "all is one" and everything we think of as being "separate" or "individual" is actually connected and inter-related ... so the wisdom of this particular quote could apply to helping as well as harming)
     
  16. TheSamantha

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    Naturally, you had to bring emotions into it. This is a PHILOSOPHICAL exercise. Try to get that through your thick skull.

    Also, you bring up something that does actually bother me: moral hypocrisy and a lack of consistency. I would much, much rather live in a world where everyone was consistently self-interested and predictable, than a world where people who see themselves as good are sometimes randomly assholes.
     
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    Trample the weak! Hurdle the dead!
     
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  19. Asmodean

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    So lets rephrase the question: What's the purpose of improving each other's conditions?
     
  20. Chigurh

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    What about those who chose to build up the most deserving peoples regardless of race, which, humor me, happen to be skin tone [x]? If more of that particular race have traits which present an objective, statistical advantage as far as social construct, then what argument could skin tone [y] [z] have other than muh feels?
     

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