What is GOD anyway?

All life may be God experiencing reality as matter, in various ways, at various frequencies...eh?

 

What...nature is life manifest?! lol

Nah, all life is all life experiencing reality, in various ways, at various frequencies.

 

No....nature and the laws of nature are the driving purpose behind all living and non living things, that exist together, like planets and ecosystems...

 

LOL isnt very polite....btw...I could be rude also but I am not because I respect you, please show a similar curtesy..thanx.

 

So what is it that would lead you to believe that these laws are a conceived purpose as opposed to an innate set?

 

Mox:

I didn't mean it rudely, but I suppose it could be taken to mean that I did, so sorry.

Nature is not our purpose.

 

Dejavu I am not being clear enough I guess.

Purpose (will of god) = nature (laws of nature) = universe (matter and energy) = life (including you and me)

Thats my argument...

Validated I belive by the unshakeable fact that the universe is 'programmed' to spontaneously produce and evolve life and ulitmately sentient thinking beings..like us...avatars of the creator.

We are by no means the 'end product' we like any other creature are moulded by evolutionary principles based on fundamental constants...on simplexity...order from chaos...the patterns found in nature are mathematical the design is in the laws and constants which set the parameters in which living matter can arise from the non living...and eventually species will evolve intelligence for the same reason tigers evolved stripes...to survive in order to reproduce....but the purpose is greater...the purpose is for God to become manifest at every level from stone to man....we are all stardust...stone or man.

About 15 (+-5) billion years ago the universe was an expanding cloud of sub atomic particles, not even hydrogen existed, now there are living planets orbiting energy giving stars.
Order arising from disorder...life from non life...the design of natural law.
Patterns like the self replication of organic molecules or stellarnucleosynthesis all forming from the intangible laws of nature that can only be inferred by measuring the interactions between matter-energy and given rough approximate mathematical labels....like E=MC2...these patterns are no accident, no temporal flux of boundless infinity.

 

God is the derivative of the inverse of zero, which envelops everything known and unknown that exists in our universe and beyond.

 

Mox

Life equal to the universe itself? Why? How? The idea is pleasant, but in truth?

Unless you claim these patterns, raise them, see them off yourself, you cannot hide the lie of their not being things of infinity. Heavenly accidents are wasted on the starstruck.

 

Dejavu...

You cannot see what I see...and that is the dysfunction that effects everyone.

Or perhaps I cannot aptly convey my rationale to you with this medium of text...maybe it would better to communicate this kind of thing 'live' to prevent misunderstanding...such is the weakness of the forum.

Either way...I hope you one day see what I am getting at and why and how...good luck!

 

Well, take an atom. Then takes its sub atomic
structre. What makes up these atoms?
String theory? Or something like it.
10 dimensions, 10 sefirot.
Movement from the ordered frequencey of
vibration is what we dance into and out from.
So, this self sustaining energy, what is making
the strings? What is making the energy?
Who is conducting this Cosmic Symphony?
Rip reality in half and you can find it in infinte
abundance, in every microscopic peice of
anything in existance.
Break on through, to the other side of manifested
natural reality.
What is on the other side?
Picture getting smaller and smaller, eventually,
in some 'things' perception, you start getting
bigger and bigger.
Welcome to God. Or, at least the divine Light
permeated with divine Love that lies between
Us, and Them.

 

god sux

 

No he doesn't. -



oh, for fuck's sake, is this the level of debate we're reduced to? ;P

 

*Mommentarily stops ripping his hair out and looks @ snake, with a crazy grin and two fistfuls of hair*

YES

BWAAHAHAAHAHAHA.

lol... So just kidding...

Thought we could all use a good chuckle...

 

I stepped outside today and said, in typical Okie fashion "Oh, what a beautiful mornin'. Of course, I had the urge to thank someone for it, that someone being God. But then I remembered the atheist forum and held back. Thanks a lot, people; you rained on my day. I think a lot of ordinary folks get part of their religious inspiration from the beauty of the world around them:beautiful sunsets, the Grand Canyon,etc. But then some science wonk has to tell them that the sunset is beautiful because of air pollutants, and the canyon is grand because of water causing erosion. Atheist Daniel Dennett's Breaking The Spell explores the evolutionary basis of religion. The name is based on the common experience at a concert or movie where the audience is enjoying the show only to have the mood shattered by some jerk's cell phone. Dennett then tries to break the spell of religion for believers by subjecting it to 389 pages of reductionist analysis showing that it's all a product of evolutionary forces. Then there's the stressed out office worker who goes to a group therapist who tells her: visualize that you're sitting by a pond, with fish swimming by. But some smart aleky atheist in the group pipes in:"I don't see any pond or any fish'. So how analytical do we wont to get? How much truth can we stand? When the spell is broken, will everybody be better off?

 

There are two distinct levels to God, one is His immanant absolute level that is the divine consciousness as Sat-Cit -Ananda, Being-Conscioisness-Biss, the body of heaven that is currently manifesting the physical universe, but we through our senses are unaware of, and then there is the Divine Mother, who is that physical universe, and also functions as our minds in a form of veiling, blinding, or filtering phenomenon by which the beforementioned immamant divinity of God is screened from us.
All reality, all around us, is God. It is not where is God. It is the issue of where is there is not. Two levels of consciousness complete this set up, the finite self sees only themselves as the focus of existence, the awakened consciousness sees only the immanant divine as the all encompasing divine self as all of the universe, immanant heaven. This is Samadhi, enlightenment, subjective heaven.

 

I was pondering this with a friend two days ago. We came to many conclusions, but the one that I think we ended up agreeing on the most at the time was that the whole concept of "God" is really just the fact that existence exists. I like thinking of it like a concept, though, rather than personifying it or anything. Like infinity. God is that which cannot be explained, maybe? I don't know. God just is, one way or another, but not really in a religious sense. For me, at least. I don't know. And that's why there is.

 

God is the name talking apes like me give to the sense of purpose behind nature, with the implication that maybe that "purpose" can be considered in some sense "intlelligent".

 

the greatest conceivable existance that's existance itself.

 

God can only be realized through the ability of being open to such an idea, no matter how irrational and illogical it may seem to you.

I don't claim to know what God is, but if God is anything, then he is the embodiment of goodness and love. He is there through every time of your life, even in the most miserable, and if willing, can be tapped into for comfort and for peace. This is partly why I am a theist, instead of a deist.

Many things can't be proven empirically, and because of this, ideas are scrutinized to the point of disbelief. Some things simply aren't empirically measurable because of the nature of it.

Try to prove that you love your mother, wife, best friend. People just know some things are real, but are criticized because they can't bring the proof.

Prove that you are having specific thoughts in your head. You can measure brain activity, but not specific thoughts. Why believe in that? You have no empirical evidence to back it up. For now, you rely on faith and anecdotal evidence.