What do you think of Timothy Leary?

For me it was pretty wild. I didn't know what was happening so I believed something magical/supernatural had happened. For a while I even thought maybe I had super powers, but the flying didn't work, nor the invisibility. I guess I gave up after that.
I also had some other weird ideas about it, but they weren't things that I could put into words.

In a way it might have been better thinking that it was some magical miracle than knowing it was a drug, but the comedown sucked. Not only did I not have superpowers, but the whole experience just went away again and I couldn't even tell anyone about it without them just thinking it was my childish yammering about things imaginary. I'm sure half the things I said back then didn't make a lot of sense anyway, so when I started talking about fairy land coming to me--or whatever it was I said, no one payed any attention.

Back on the subject of Leary though, ..well I feel the same way about acid as zilla..it's not good it's not evil. It can be both either or neither depending on who, why, where, and how. I think I look at Leary the same way. He wasn't all good, no one is, but if I had a choice of who to spend a lot of time with; him or some conformist robot who never did anything original or risky for fear of looking wierd, I'd go with Leary.

 

Leary never snitched anything that had anyone end up in court.

he was a great man, who even if you disagree with the ideas of acid

had some excellent philosophies and was better than kesey because he believed acid should be used as a key to unlocking.

 

It is about Kesey and the Merry Pranksters.

But they vist him once they arrive in new york, however, Leary is unable to see them because he was on a 3 day acid binge.

They actually make a refrence to this whole incident sort of in the movie 'Across The Universe' [except for some reason they are in california, because it fit the plot better]

Bono is ment to represent Kesey

 

Found a great article:

The Legacy of Timothy Leary
http://www.dosenation.com/listing.php?id=2196

Tim's Liberation Day was May 31st 1996...but looking around hes living large in cyberculture nonetheless...

 

I've learned a bit about Timothy Leary... so far I like his message and what he did. I love the "Turn on, tune in, drop out" message. I hope to try LSD someday. I'm not scared; I want to see what its like, I want to see what The Beatles saw that inspired them to write such music.

 

Yeah. Leary had some great ideas about thought processes but always came off as really 'out there' and flakey. (H.O.M.E.s anyone?) RAW essentially said the same sort of things but it made more sense and seemed a good deal more palatable coming from him.

 

The american goverment thought Leary was a threat because here was this educated charesmatic man that was saying "yes kids take LSD, it's good". He wasn't just another young hippie he was man hippes could look up to a doctor that thought like them.

I believe before he went to jail he wasn't working for the goverment.
But I'm sure Uncle sam can be very persuasive when he wants something from you. Although he did continue to advocate LSD use until his death so I don't know.

I wish I could have met him, too bad I was born too late.

 

read cosmic trigger by robert anton wilson.. good book & has some interesting info about leary

 

I think Leary fucked up, forget his pious view on psychedelics, he broke the law and drew negative attention to the psychedelic lifestyle. He failed to legitimize the drug scene but showed the status quo that drugs can corrupt even our best academic minds and the seeds of "False" info acid embedded into Leary was being imposed on his students illegally. We might be able to buy LSD at CVS if it wasn't for jerks like Leary. Shulgin is my counter culture hero, he created a whole plethora of psychedelics that IMO haven't been explored on a cultural level, they are the rebellious counter culture drugs of tomorrow, and he did all this legally.

 

Uncle Tim unlocked the door for us. It is up to us weather we go out or stay in. But the point being, he and Owsely indeed put us on the threshold of awakening into the new age.

We would have gotten there sooner or later but we got a boost of evolution through the magic widow of The Experience. Those who have had The Experience knows what I'm talking about.

Not every one that drops has The Real Experience.

sh

 

I don't know nothing. I didn't see anything. I wasn't there, and if you say I was there, I must have been sleeping!

 

You must sleep with your eyes open BSer, don't try to deny it, there we witnesses!!!!

 

True. I for one didn't, but of course LSD is not for everyone. It's also true that a lot of people had too much Experience and messed their heads. Too much of anything can be bad.

 

I don't recall anything about Leary in it, but it was along time ago.
He plays an absent role in the Tom Wolfe classic, I believe in a chapter entitled "The Crypt Trip."

 

Regardless of your personal beliefs about Dr. Leary, you have to at least recognize his effect on drug research. He and Richard Alpert (Ram Dass) started a psilocybin research project at Harvard and all.

Personally, I'm a proponent of his 8-circuit model of consciousness (expanded by Robert Anton Wilson in "Prometheus Rising"), but I don't think that everybody should be dropping acid. Then again, I don't feel particularly like Huxley who said that only the cultural elite should be doing it. My feeling is that you shouldn't drop acid and just expect enlightenment, you should use it as a tool to amplify meditation and metaprogramming.

 

If I am not mistaken, isnt Ram Dass Cat Stevens?

Leary's partner was John Gris (sp). He was the front man for Leary's operation. He died in a swimming pool accident in late 60s or early 70s. He was always present at the LSD session in Majeska Canyon When Uncle Tim would come up to the Psychedelic Church and EXPERIENCE LSD.

Very enlightening to be in the presence of greatness while trippin'. It depends on what you are searching for as to what you get from Experiencing LSD. If your looking for nothing, that is what you will find. If you are looking for answers to ancient question of the spiritual kind, you will find that.

You brain is the 'computer' of the body, The motherboard. Everything else connects to it and recives data through the circutry of nerves that send electric impulses or commands through out the universe of your body.

In Experiencing LSD, you ride this majic carpet through tunnels and worm holes that take you to far away places in your subconscious mind, which is The Universe. You are an observer, peaking as you peek into the otherside of consciousness, the next demention, the 5th demention. A demention where the vibrational frequency vibrates on a higher level, faster and vastly undefinable. Limitless in the ability to go furthur into the realm of higher consciousness, connecting with the Source of Energy that feeds us all.

Flashing back Hard now, seeing Dancing Paiseleys in the air, trailers as I type. How wonderful to be able to 'call it up' at shear will, just in recollection.

Yes I would have to agree that there is a need for moderation, to fit ones needs, as it were. Some minds are not ready to Experience the Universe, other dementions. I was fortunate enough to be instructed by The Man Himself and learned how to cruise through and manuver the cosmos and return back to the 3 demetional body with a broader aspect of design..

The ones coming after seem not to have this kind of influence to show the way. It is dying off as we make our last effort to bring a higher level of thinking to humanity. Where are todays Timothy Learys, where are our great thinkers/doers for the generations to come.

I dont know, you only retain so much after re-entery there is so much to contain in that little bit of space we use in our 3rd dementional brain.

Ahhhh the 60s.
sh

 

I'm pretty sure Ram Dass is Richard Alpert; Cat Stevens is Yusuf Islam, I believe.

You're very elegant and I'm very much interested in your LSD experiences, or those with Dr. Leary. How old were you during your first acid Experience?

Also, as for the Timothy Learys of today, I implore you to look all around. I've noticed throughout my circle of friends and their associates, and various acquaintances from the Internet, that there is certainly a keen interest in psychonautics and Being.

Yours, in the quest for modern consciousness,
Jake

 

I see you are right about Ram Dass Wobbles, my mistake. I get the names confused.

I think I was somewhere between 14 and 15 yrs old when my Experience with LSD began maybe younger. I was the kid sister and got to hang with the big dogs in So Cali. I started smokin' pot around 13.

I grew up hard and fast, I learned a lot about many things in my travels and to mine and everyone else's suprise I survived.

Bright Blessings on your travels
sh