What Do You Think of Time Travel?

there is a school of thought that the universe is much less elastic than believed, and that when disturbed it can retain the disturbance pattern. If there is truth in that, then certain people with raised consciousness could tune in sense the disturbance.

Physical time travel on the other hand I hope people realize is impossible since time is mono-directional, chronologically forward and purely an abstract construct designed to observe and record interval events etc.

 

Time is mono-directional and chronologically forward as we humans currently experience it.

But how can you be sure you're not projecting the narrow human experience of time onto this assertion? What percentage of the universe would you say we humans occupy?

Is it prudent to assume that since we humans experience time in a mono-directional, chronologically forward direction that that is the bedrock solid nature of time?

 

Clocks are mono-directional and chronologically forward.


Clocks are not time...

 

Ah yes. But clocks are creations of humans.

 

That's why the are mono-directional... Humans can't conceive of any other type of time. Well, most of us can't anyways.

 

i think if your interested in time travel you should watch Steins;Gate. its an amazing show. i recommend it to everyone
http://www.animefreak.tv/watch/steins-gate-online
this site has all the episodes in high quality.

 

It is true, and has been scientifically proven, that some information is passed along through genetics.

I think they did some experiments on captive animals, ones where the 3rd generation was in captivity.. And you exposed them to a natural enemy (in the wild of course) and they reacted..

Although, I'm not sure if that would be called instinct or not.. They reacted the same way to "prey" they were fed everyday but the instinct was there. So I guess the big question would be where this instinct came from in the first place.. Some sort of information passed on by early ancestors perhaps?

I mean instinct has to come from somewhere...

Also, I think that intuition can't really be called time travel. Although if information is passed through the air, and some people somehow intercept it that's still pretty f'ing cool. Even if not time travel.

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as crazy as it may sound right now, something like it could actually be true if Higgs field is proven to exist. that would mean that the electromagnetic and the weak force are the same. since the EM force mediates information, it wouldn't be too far off to speculate that maybe the weak part of it mediates some sort of information as well. and since it's felt by all the (known) elementary particles our bodies would be able to 'see' it. maybe. maybe not at all. and Higgs still remains unproven.

 

I had thought they were on the verge of proving the Higgs Field existed?

I'm sure there was an article somewhere what said they did some preliminary testing and had some positive results. They were going to continue testing... And then nothing..

Makes you wonder, were the followup tests a complete failure, or did they work too well then? If they worked too well, I'm sure they would have their funding come from secret sources and have a gag order put on them.

Imagine a whole world being able to tap into that sort of thing... *shudder* I mean, imagine what could be accomplished, but at the same time, imagine what people could potentially use it for... I'm sure it would be twisted and perverted to the extent that it would be outlawed anyway.

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I used to be able to, but that was tomorrow. By now, I will have forgotten how I future did it.

And now seriously....

Time is really only a measure of decay, whether it's measuring the half-life of radioactive materials or the time it takes for your tooth to develop a hold. In that sense, time is only forward-travelling because we choose to view it that way.

It's interesting that the definition of a second has relatively recently been changed, which in turn alters our other time units as well. Who knows? Perhaps in a few millenia a second will be much longer than it now is.

 

See this is because you keep waking up in the past... By time you realize you are awake it's already the past.

 

I'll have 2 bags of what he's having, please.

 

People often say they'd go back in time to change the future. To hell with that idea if I'm time traveling its cause I don't want to be in the future.

 

Well, time is also largely based on earth's rotation (measurement anyway) and of course if we say there are 24 hours in a day, and a day is defined by the sun rising and setting, then time in and of itself is constantly slowing down. (not by much, but it is)

or rather our basis of measuring time is slowing down.

I often wonder what would happen if we had no real way of measuring time? It would be complete chaos...

At some point in the future (or maybe it won't get to that as the sun will engulf the earth first) the earth will stop rotating, and thus take away our measurement of time (of course we will still have clocks/watches, which have numbers to tell us how many units have past but...) now this will be the least of our problems once that happens lol, but still it would be a huge problem if all we had to go on the passage of time was just numbers changing on a watch or clock...

Would it all of a sudden lose its meaning? I often think about that in terms of space travel. Really, once out in deep space heading to wherever, time would sort of be irrelevant, you wouldn't have anything to base day/night on besides the numbers on a clock...

What would that do? Would it make a big difference? Maybe we will need to change the way we measure time in order for it to make sense, as our whole notion of time and how to measure it is pretty much based on day/night and seasons.

I have noticed that in tropical climates (moderately tropical) where the seasons don't change it's almost as if time stands still. The only real notion you have of seasons changing elsewhere or "real" passage of time is when they put out the decorations for Christmas in preparation for the holidays. Perception is a big thing for time after all.

So... What say you?:afro:

 

they think they've got it, yes. but the results haven't been confirmed yet.

and there is no conspiracy that would need to cover up the existence of Higgs field if proven to exist. the existence of Higgs field will basically just show how the electromagnetic and the weak force are the same thing (or how the symmetry in the universe is broken) something that in itself was shown to be true already in the 1960s. it won't suddenly reveal insight into the supposed paranormal/'supernatural' phenomena.

it was just something i thought of as we were on this topic. the idea is a long shot anyway, since the weak force has a range of 10^(-18) m in comparison to the infinite range of the EM force. so, a huge long shot

 

Not really, the way we measure time is based on these things.

Agreed

Perhaps. But again, time is not an absolute because we live in a relativistic universe.

It isn't presently possible to say which of the two alternatives is more likely to occur first. Statistically it is more likely that a large meteor will destroy the earth before either of your postulations occur.

Not at all. You would still measure the time elapsed on your journey, for example.

Again, no. A second now has nothing to do with planetary rotation. It is a period during which a cesium 133 atom degenerates from one hyperfine state to another.

Bingo. Perception = relativist understanding. I once sat in a pool bar in Fiji for 5 hours and swore it had only been 20 minutes.

Great discussion,

 

Being able to go back in time WOULD BE AWESOME!!!!

I would first goto 1998 and buy 100s of dollars worth of plain m&ms! (Changed in 2000 to using skim milk and taste aweful now)

Then i would goto 1988 to my middle school and stock up on tons of CABBAGE SALAD!!!! -- Oh my,it was the best!!!!

Then i would goto my elemantary school on HAMBURGER/CHEESEBURGER day and stock up on tons of HAMBURGERS!!!!!! -- Oh my,they were delicious!! (With catchup)

Then i would goto 1979 and buy TONS OF GOLDEN GRAIN "MACARONI AND CHEDDER" (Sadly company was sold in 1986) -- THE BEST MAC AND CHEESE DINNER I EVER HAD!!

Pic: http://news.google.com/newspapers?id=kj8jAAAAIBAJ&img=1&zoom=3&pg=6003,4770606


Oh my...... STUFF WAS MUCH BETTER 12+ YEARS AGO!!

 

In my experience in Alaska in the summer/daytime time becomes optional. People arise and go to bed as the urge takes them. Go into town and see who decided to open what biz.
When I Get the Time I'll Travel..........

 

I do not know how many viewed the 1st video I posted but I want to post another one by the same person it is a radio interview it is long so perhaps you will want to set aside some time to listen to it if you are just passing by

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bd_2DZ0eqBo&feature=related"]Dr. David Lewis Anderson - Journeys Into Time - YouTube

 

Wow... You weren't kidding that it was long lol.. But you know.. That is some of the most interesting stuff I have heard in a while.. I'm still wondering why I had never heard of them before, or come across the recording... I have done a lot of research on the topic....

Can you share how you found this gem?

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