What do you think about gays?

I understand what you are saying. I have a very strong scientific background and I have a hard time accepting homosexuality as "normal", biologically. With living organisms there are a number of different types of reproduction. Some is asexual, some organisms all of the species are hermaphrodites and can both give birth and firtilize eggs, and some are sexual where two opposite sexes are necessary for egg firtilization. Homo sapiens fit into the last category. Without opposite sex reproduction, the species would not exist. In less inteligent animals if a male or female was genetically predisposed to have a sexual aversion to the opposite sex they would not reproduce and therefore this genetic predisposition would not be passed into any offspring.


Why, or what is the instinctual driving force that naturally causes one sex to be attracted to the other sex??? This is a very difficult question to answer. It can be answered either by the "nature" or "nurture" view. I belive it is instinctual and genetically programed by millions of years of evolution. There will always be mutations and variations that arise at random and the variations that allow the best survival of the species will be passed to further generations and amplified. If homosexuality leads to increased fitness of the species than we will evolve accordingly.

So maybe I should think of homosexuality in terms of a "genetic variation" instead of a "birth defect". However, in the end each variation will either increase ones evolutionary fitness or dicrease it. I guess evolution will eventually decide.

Sus, according to you, homosexuality can be either inborn or a decision. I have had multiple people assert that they insist that gayness is not a choice and that all gays are born that way. In that respect I am not sure how I interpret the the situation of one choosing to be gay. I am also a Christian and currently I feel as if the people who are born gay are not intrinsically sinning because of it, just as no one can help the way they were born. But I do think choosing to be homosexual, which is a purely sexual connotation, is a sin and should therefore be selfdisciplined against.

By-the-way, Sus, I also respect your opinions and discussion and appreciate your constructiveness.

 

What do I think about gays? Well, if I'm friends with a gay guy, then I know he's actually my friend and not just trying to get laid.


What do I think about people who claim to be straight, but obsess about gays?

I think they're gay.

 

Not gay myself i think they have a right to love anyone they want regardless of gender.

 

I have been thinking a lot about it... I am not 100% sure yet, but you may be right... It doesn't hurt anyone and they are 2 consenting adults...

 

i think they are brave, fantastic, most of the time nice and friendly and just as different in relation to us true hippies are to the conformed 'normal' people.

GETE OVER IT you presumtious people YOU MAY NOT BE RIGHT (more like wont).

 

So many on here are so self-righteous! I think we could all use a little dose of modesty around here!

 

they're sexy and cool to hang out with.
:* :*

 

Feelingroovy, I am sorry that my post came off as immature to you, but in essence you said that my sexuality is a deformity. I find that offensive, because you're not a gay man/woman, therefore you shouldn't make such bold statements.

I am glad that you accept all men/women regardless of their sexuality. It shows that you are not closeminded, and intelligent. However to call gays that have pride and others who support them self righteous is ridiculous. That is like calling an African American that supports the advancement of their race, "self righteous". Having pride is an important thing, and many times it can be overdone, but gays who are happy being who they are, and who try to fight for the advancement of people like them is simply not egotistical or self righteous.

 

my opinion on queers? (no i dont really care if they don't like to be called that) I got nothin against them really. i just wish they'd stop hitting on me... I mean really! wtf does a guy gotta do to get hit on by a woman?!
Is this how they recruit!? find the cute shy guys who arnt going to approach a female for that f33r rejection thing...
yeah so really. let your freak flag fly! and if anal sex is your thing more power too ya. me personally, I dont like anal. even with women really. just not the same.
so that said... Huray for Gay folk that don't hit on me!

 

what do i think about gays?
erm...same as i think about heterosexuals and lesbians and bisexuals
same as i think about every human being

 

Meh, they're just there such as everyone else... Now I've got a kinda natural hostility towards men, but if they don't hit on me they've got just as much right to be here as the next guy...
Oh yeah, and thos over feminine types scares the shit out of me

 

Mushie, "deformity" no, I never said that. "defect" yes. There is a difference. If someone is born with a definate alteration to the default, and most primordial human programming, as I personally see it, I consider this to be a defect. Just as I was born with a physical defect that was corrected with surgery. Do I feel any less of a human or of any less value compared to someone born "perfect", heck no!. Just as you should not! But I do not consider myself too proud to admit that I was born with a "defect" that would have cause many problems surviving and would have probably lead to a much shortened lifespan. So, I am very confident in who I am and am very satisfied with who I have become, as should you be. But I am not too proud or "self-righteous" to admit that I am not perfect and do have shortcommings and that my opinions are not the only valid opinions, and do not think that everyone else is wrong for thinking what they think.


Never once did I criticize any one elses opinions about gays on here like so many of you (what I mean when I say self-righteousness). All I do is state my current opions or, as I mentioned, play a bit of a devils advocate. It dissappoints me when so many people feel the need to harshly criticize other people just because their opinions are different! These forums are a place to be openminded and to accurately interpret and learn from others experiences so that we can continue to be further enlightened and continually develope our personal views and opinions. Without seeing different views or interpretations that we may have never envisioned, this would not be possible.

No body is perfect and I think people should have enought modesty to identify and admit their possible shortcommings or differences from "perfection". After all, if the only imperfection in certian people is their born homosexuality then they are far more perfect than many other people in this world!!!

I expect that many, if not most, people on here will have opinions different from mine and I highly respect those opinions and those people for constructively voicing those opinions, but there is no room in this world for blatant and harsh unacceptance or name calling in regards to someone elses differences or opinions, including the unacceptance or wrongfull misjudgements of the character of gays!

As far as religion is concerned, many christians believe the sex without the intentions of reproduction is a sin, and since homosexuality is purly of a sexual distinction and two humans of same sex cannot reproduce sexually than homosexuals are sinners by the vary nature of their sexual orientation. I say it is purly sexual, because I can, for example, feel very close to, love, and be emotionally intimate with another male without having any desire to have sexual relations with him and still I am heterosexual and not a sinner in regards to sex. Therefore, purley the only thing that separates a heterosexual from a homosexual is solely a sexual desire or act, and therefore an act of sin.

I also say that "Christians" that judge gays characteristically as sinners should take a look at their own sex lives, however heterosexual they may be, and use their same theological rationalization to see their own sexual sins.

 

We are clearly not going to agree on anything the other says, therefore, let's just agree to disagree.

 

Gays dont offend me,

 

They're just people like the rest of us. They're all individuals, and thus I can't judge all of them. I know a gay guy who is the sweetest guy I know, and I know another who is a complete and total ass. As for lesbians, I am one. I'm completely non-judgemental when it comes to sexuality.

 

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