What did you eat today?

odonII · Nov 16, 2013

Hoppípolla said:

I did wanna get Linda McCartney veggie burgers but they have ingredients that my sensitive tummy can't handle ._.
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Ever try the Quorn fillets? > < :ack2:

Meliai · Nov 16, 2013

I've tried ACV in water and I just can't get past the taste. I love vinegar in salad dressing, I usually just use oil and acv for my salad dressing. i pour so much vinegar on that I can drink it from the bowl afterwards and i can't get enough, but for some reason I can't stand acv water.

Pressed_Rat · Nov 16, 2013

Meliai said:

I've tried ACV in water and I just can't get past the taste. I love vinegar in salad dressing, I usually just use oil and acv for my salad dressing. i pour so much vinegar on that I can drink it from the bowl afterwards and i can't get enough, but for some reason I can't stand acv water.
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I like it. It gives the water some bite. You can also add some honey or maple syrup to it as well. I sometimes add a pinch of Himalayan pink salt to mine.

Pressed_Rat · Nov 16, 2013

odonII said:

Ever try the Quorn fillets? > < :ack2:

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Looks nasty, but mind if I ask what is in that?

YouFreeMe · Nov 16, 2013

odonII said:

Ever try the Quorn fillets? > < :ack2:

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I usually avoid fake meat, but I bought those once on a whim. TERRIBLE. Unused box is still in my freezer.

Pressed_Rat · Nov 16, 2013

Ew.

Would. Not. Eat.

I just read this on Wiki:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quorn

Disturbing.

Production

Quorn fillets - fried, defrosted and frozen

Quorn is made from the soil mould Fusarium venenatum strain PTA-2684 (previously misidentified as the parasitic mould Fusarium graminearum[27]). The fungus is grown in continually oxygenated water in large, otherwise sterile fermentation tanks. Glucose is added as a food for the fungus, as are vitamins and minerals to improve the food value of the product. The resulting mycoprotein is then extracted and heat-treated to remove excess levels of RNA. Previous attempts to produce such fermented protein foodstuffs were thwarted by excessive levels of DNA or RNA; without the heat treatment, purine, found in nucleic acids, is metabolised by humans, producing uric acid, which can lead to gout.[28] However two recent studies have found dietary factors once believed to be associated with gout are in fact not, including the intake of purine-rich vegetables and total protein.[29][30] The Mayo Clinic, meanwhile, advises gout sufferers to avoid some foods that are high in purines.[31]

The product is dried and mixed with egg albumen, which acts as a binder. It is then textured, giving it some of the grained character of meat, and pressed either into a mince resembling ground beef; forms resembling chicken breasts, meatballs, and turkey roasts; or chunks resembling diced chicken breast. In these forms, Quorn has a varying colour and a mild flavour resembling the imitated meat product, and is suitable for use as a replacement for meat in many dishes, such as stews and casseroles. The final Quorn product is high in protein and dietary fibre and is low in saturated fat and salt. It contains less dietary iron than do most meats.

Quorn for the European market is produced at Marlow's headquarters in Stokesley, North Yorkshire and at nearby Billingham in Stockton-on-Tees.[32]

Controversy

Quorn's 2002 debut in the US was more problematic than its European introduction. The sale of Quorn was contested by The American Mushroom Institute, rival Gardenburger, and the Center for Science in the Public Interest (CSPI). They filed complaints with advertising and trading-standards watchdogs in Europe and the US, claiming the labelling of Quorn as "mushroom based" was deceptive.[2][33] The CSPI observed that while a mushroom is a fungus, Fusarium is not a mushroom, and stated, "Quorn's fungus is as closely related to mushrooms as humans are to jellyfish."

CSPI also claimed that Quorn could cause allergic reactions and should be removed from stores. Calling the product "fungus food", CSPI claimed in 2003 that it "sickens 4.5% of eaters".[34] The manufacturer (Marlow Foods) disputes the figure, claiming that only 0.0007% (1 in 146,000) suffer adverse reactions and that the strain of fungus it uses does not produce toxins.[34] The CSPI's claims were also described by Leslie Bonci, professor of nutrition at the University of Pittsburgh, as "overblown".[35] Steven Milloy, writing for the American Fox News channel, said "CSPI appears to have an unsavory relationship with Quorn competitor, Gardenburger" and called the CSPI's complaints "unscrupulous shrieking".[36] Gardenburger in turn denied this, saying Milloy's "unsavory relationship" claim was "untrue and groundless".[citation needed] Wendy Preiser, Gardenburger's vice president of marketing, supported the Gardenburger position on the grounds that the company was afraid that Quorn's labels would cause people to be suspicious about all meat-free products.[37]

The UK's Advertising Standards Authority also had concerns over Marlow's practice of marketing Quorn as "mushroom in origin", saying it had been "misleading consumers". The ASA noted "despite the advertiser’s explanation that they used the term because customers were unfamiliar with the main ingredient, mycoprotein, the ASA considered that the claim implied that Quorn was made from mushroom. Marlow Foods were asked either to delete the claim or give in the same font size a statement of the mycoprotein origin of the product or the fungal origin of the product."[38]

Quorn's acceptance in the vegetarian market was hampered by the use of battery eggs in its production process, a practice opposed on ethical grounds by many. For this reason, the Vegetarian Society initially did not approve these products. Working with the Vegetarian Society, Marlow began phasing out battery eggs in 2000,[39] and by 2004 all Quorn products sold in the UK were produced without battery eggs, earning the Vegetarian Society's seal of approval.[3]

An asthma attack in 2003 was linked to Quorn, which the patient had eaten an hour earlier. Scientists' tests showed Quorn to be the only food to which the patient had an allergic reaction. A spokesperson for the Food Standards Agency stated that an allergy was not surprising because of the high protein content.[40] Former FSA director Jon Bell responded in defence of Quorn stating that several commonly consumed foods and food ingredients have a much higher intolerance level than Quorn, such as soya.[41]
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Meliai · Nov 16, 2013

Pressed_Rat said:

I like it. It gives the water some bite. You can also add some honey or maple syrup to it as well. I sometimes add a pinch of Himalayan pink salt to mine.
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this is actually the first I've heard of Himalayan pink salt so I looked it up out of curiosity. I've been wanting to cut out table salt a bit because I find myself using it too much. I think I may have to check this out

odonII · Nov 16, 2013

Pressed_Rat said:

Disturbing.
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What's disturbing?

The reason I did not like them was because I eat them on their own. I also frazzled the life from them in a microwave. I was at work so my options (for preparation) were small.

odonII · Nov 16, 2013

YouFreeMe said:

I usually avoid fake meat, but I bought those once on a whim. TERRIBLE. Unused box is still in my freezer.
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Give them to a food bank. Or don't you think even desperate people would eat them?

farmout · Nov 17, 2013

I like a lot of the fake meat products....

YouFreeMe · Nov 17, 2013

odonII said:

Give them to a food bank. Or don't you think even desperate people would eat them?
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They were so hard I couldn't even chew 'em. Plus, what Rat said made me wonder if they were fit for any human consumption. Bleh. I heard about the fungus thing before, several years ago, but I forgot until now.

I'm a vegetarian, but soy is lousy for you. Or, most of it is. I've gotten away from fake meat products, aside from the occasional veggie burger. If I don't want to eat animal flesh, why would I want to eat fake animal flesh?

Pressed_Rat · Nov 17, 2013

I'll stick to real food. But, to each their own. I'm not going to come down on someone for eating fake meat. I just don't see it as being a healthy alternative, especially when so many of these fake meat products contain GMO soy and who knows what else.

GLENGLEN · Nov 17, 2013

Tis Monday Here And As You All Know,

Monday Is PIZZA DAY...:hurray:

Cheers Glen.

odonII · Nov 17, 2013

YouFreeMe said:

They were so hard I couldn't even chew 'em.
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Yeah. They were a little tough : /

Plus, what Rat said made me wonder if they were fit for any human consumption. Bleh. I heard about the fungus thing before, several years ago, but I forgot until now.
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I only skimmed through that.
It was formulated by Imperial Chemical Industries - which sounds a bit wrong.
I've been eating 'Quorn' for about that 10 years, I'm still here!
It is only this I've not really liked.
Other 'Quorn' products have been lovely

I'm a vegetarian, but soy is lousy for you. Or, most of it is. I've gotten away from fake meat products, aside from the occasional veggie burger. If I don't want to eat animal flesh, why would I want to eat fake animal flesh?
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Me too (for about 15 years)...
I wasn't looking for something that resembled meat (I'm not that kind of vegetarian).
I was just looking for something that wasn't full of salt and the wrong type of fat...(and was, obviously, meat free)
There isn't a hell of a lot of 'ready meals' for vegetarians (something easy to make at work)...

r0llinstoned · Nov 17, 2013

pizza
hawaiian chicken
subway

usedtobehoney · Nov 17, 2013

Sheesh man...straight up fast food.

r0llinstoned · Nov 17, 2013

Actually the pizza was from costco

usedtobehoney · Nov 17, 2013

Frozen foods and fast foods are kinda the same, man. Unless you're talking about buying it from the outside stands at costco and that makes it fast food.

deviate · Nov 17, 2013

Organic dark roast coffee made with a french press (holy shit, so good) all day, then outback for dinner. I fixed the bartenders car so I eat there free for awhile. Free food is the best.

usedtobehoney · Nov 17, 2013

Don't worry rollin, I am here to spoon feed you my homemade icecream.

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