what are the long term effects of shrooms?

Spinal Tap- great band! The story of your friend's friend aint true, and this stuff other posters are saying about mushrooms being safer simply because they grow out of the ground is ridiculous. There are so many deadly mushrooms and so many safe chemical compounds, what are you motherfuckers reading that makes you speak with any sense of authority about stuff you don't know about?
Anyway, mushrooms & acid aren't very poisonous and only might make you crazy for a bit. Sid Barrett went nuts, but he had latent issues. John Lennon on the other hand, went and got himself shot. Was it the fame or the enlighntenment that did it? Don't ask Yoko, she'll just dish out the old peace and love mumbo jumbo.

 

Wow really bad examples. No one is saying they are safer because thhey grow out of the ground. Pshychedelic shrooms are the caps in question here. Not shrooms in general. I'm pretty sure you know that and are just being a non sequitur for the fuck of it.

Lab shrooms are less taxing on neurons and the nervous system and LSD.

Sorry if I sound like I'm flipping out, I just have a low bullshit tolerance.

 

dude, sheerwickedness I believe my friend wasnt trying to lie to me but maybe he was misinformed im not sure... I do believe that if you get real acid, not some DOB bullshit, then you will be a safe tripper and most mushrooms too, unless you pick em yourself and pick a deadly one. I think psychedelics are the safest drugs, maybe even more then marijuana - also, you talk alot about people saying shit they dont actually know. WELL<> do you have any information/credits or sources for what you have to say???

 

Just to add some balance, not all mushrooms that grow out of the ground are safe, but not all chemical compounds that are extracted from wherever are super-healthy either

 

Your conclusions seem to make sense to me. Your friend may have just been jive talking, which is lots of fun. Rather than cite resources for my claims (that sometimes natural substances are more dangerous than synthesized ones), look above my post for a balanced contributor who will probably take the time to cite his references. I honestly can't be bothered.
I do know that in high school, I knew a bunch of noisy people talking about how acid was all chemical and stays in your spine and is therefore worse than mushrooms. I had friends that swore that their friends thought they were glasses of orange juice. Synthesizing acid is an a science of organic chemistry, and the stuff doesn't hide in your spine to be tapped later. This is all rather common knowlege, though sometimes not on these boards. Do I really need to back this up?

 

... what do you think mushrooms grow in? You say, 'non sequitur', I say, 'a posse ad esse.'

 

Well you know I was talking about lab shrooms. So, as I said, you're just doing that for the fuck of it.

I'm not saying they are saferbecause they grow out of teh ground. And at the same time, acid isn't arganic. Some of it's components are, but as a whole it's not. But taht's not what makes it worse than shrooms.

 

This statement implies that LSD is indeed 'way worse for you' because it is not a 'completely organic organism'. Am I reading this wrong, or have you changed your mind?

 

On an objective basis yes.

But I'm not saying that anything that grows out of the ground is better than anything that is synthetic. So let's not make that a blanket statement.

I'm saying that LAB shrooms are not as taxing on your body as LSD of all teh chemicals that go into a batch of LSD compared to what goes into lab shrooms.

This "pure" LSD people speak of is LSA. Not LSD.

 

So you you think that people who speak of getting pure LSD are getting LSA on their blotters? This is a perfect example of the type of thing that I can authoritatively say is not true. I challenge you to find anyone, even on this forum, who agrees with you. I should not need to back this up with links and sources, it's just very common knowlege. Geechee, you're joking, right? I've never met anyone who's done LSA, and I've met a lot of folks around the world. I've read about people doing LSA extractions and whatnot, but never met one. I imagine that many of them are the types who don't make it out to shows very often (not that I have anything against agoraphobics).

We're getting way off topic here, but hey, that's ok, right?

 

you guys are all fucking dickheads.

anyone who thinks lsd is gonna be better for you is insane allready from to much lsd.

while shrooms can kill you and lsd is "non-toxic' when compared to its standard dose, lsd is far worse for your mind.

an lsd trip is very deep, very profound. what lsd does to your mind, compared to what shrooms do is crazy.

dont be fooled lsd really turns you round the twist... people on this forum are insane in a strange way. if you did lsd everyweek you burn out really fucking quick, and it takes long ass fucking long time to feel better. if it was shrooms, it would take sooo much longer, and you would never burn out like you would on acid, and even when you did, you would return more to normal and quicker, than you ever would dream of from acid.

its reall no fun doing to many psychedelics. when things are all extrmely dreamy, and you have heaps of flashbacks everyday, and when people say words to you, theres odd deep associations and de je vu feelings attached to them. and simiar things to other things.
it can bear you unable to function in this society. and you know what, thats the very definition of insane.

 

You challenge me to prove something but you don't need to prove yourself? Hmmm.......

Sorry man, nothing you say is gonna budge me. Doesn't matter how many people you've met, that doesn't all of a sudden give you any validity, that's more like argumentum ad populum. LSD is synthesized and is exponentially more taxing on your brain functions that lab shrooms. Nothing you're gonna say can change fact.

I've taken excessive amounts of both and even both at teh same time on occasion. LSD is worse for you.

I don't even take that shit anymore. Haven't in weeks.

 

How many shrooms would you have to eat for them to kill you?

 

Fine, I'll not try to budge you, but can you please clarify what you mean by this 'clean acid is really lsa' idea? Can you even fit LSA on a little blotter? Also, what do you mean by, 'lab shrooms'? Just mushrooms grown indoors, right?

Let's try to find some things to agree on. Acid lasts longer, and has more stimulant effects (even clean acid, and by clean, I mean LSD). You have less of a body load (nausea, etc.) with acid, though, and the mantra tends to be that with acid, you're in the driver's seat, with shrooms, you're in the passenger seat. Long term effects from either drug are physicially nonexistant, and psychologically similar. I don't want to argue with you any more, I don't need 'validity' from this forum, just trying to help out.

I agree, it doesn't matter how many people I've met, that would not 'all of a sudden give ' me 'any validity', but I will assert that I do indeed know what I'm talking about. I don't think anyone can really chime in and say I don't, the only thing that could be criticized is my attitude, bravado, the fuck you, you're being stupid attitude, but you can tell I'm trying to work on that by my tone at the beginning of my post. I will not use any more latin either, let's quit. Peace, love, and stop spreading misinformation!

 

It never ceases to amaze me, that in this present day and age, with a wealth of information available over the interent and in literally thousands of books and other mediums for written literature, after human beings have ingested magic mushrooms for WELL over a thousand years, and LSD use going on by some of the highest thinking and most intelligent people on Earth, that kids as well as adults still think that magic mushrooms are poisons that can kill and that LSD causes physical damage to the mind and body.
Jesus fucking Christ people, THEY ARE SAFE DRUGS AS FAR AS YOUR PHYSICAL BODY AND MIND ARE CONCERNED. For the billionth time, an unstable mind can have an unnerving and unsettling experience that will shake up their own cage of delusion they have been living in for the term of their present life, but in moderate doses, like air, water, and food, will not kill you or cause damage to your body.

 

For people talking about manmade vs organic...

Bees take nectar and turn it in to honey
Are humans not another species on earth, must we call ourselves the hierarchy of the world? We are just another species so whatever we do is in nature, it is in our range of human nature

 

Brilliant

 

There is one thing I have to say, you can eat your body weight in shrooms and still be a perfectly functional human being. sorry for that but im tored of all of these egos fucking with this thread. it has been tested by ram dass in a labritory, the active ingredients of shrooms can not kill you. at all.

 

depends on the type of hallucinogenic shrooms. shrooms can fucking kill you.

fucking hell you guys have really lost the plot. stuck in your own delusions...

fucking hell. lsd and shrooms can really mess with your head, no matter how sound you were before consumption.

these hallucinogens are not safe. while psychically they dont fuck you... mentally is an entire differnt story. wake the fuck up and stop spreading bullshit.

obviously yous havent had enough experience, or you are to deluded in the trips you are having. its prettty easy to take acid and be deluded and sware by the drug. but your deluded. delusional.

 

you. yes you. im the most sane person here these days lol