What’s needed to stop an American dictatorship?

srg

Sorry you seem to be hampered in entering into honest debate by your refusal to read the posts or do research – Trud basically said the same thing and I’ve already replied to that -

As stated my vision for the future like many lefties is for a place where people can live healthy, prosperous lives and everyone can fulfil their potential. And the policies and ideas I often talk about explain and promote are about bringing that vision about such as universal healthcare, welfare, education, training, and a new green deal amongst others.

Many of these policies rather than been ‘non-actionable’ are already in action – for example let’s take health – many countries have some form of universal healthcare and in the vast majority of them, places comparable to the US, life expectancy is longer and child mortality rates are lower.

The question is why some people oppose the things that would allow a lot more people to have healthy, prosperous lives where they have a greater chance of fulfilling their potential, to the betterment of wider society

Your replay seems to be with the extremely vague ‘freedom’ because you favour ‘freedom’

But in the context of opposing universal healthcare how does saying freedom work you seem to be saying you wish people to have the ‘freedom’ to die unnecessarily.

 

srg

Again you really need to read the posts Trud’s ideas seemed to be based on Social Darwinist ideas of exploitative ‘work or starve’ and locking people up in containment camps – how is that conducive to them having healthy and prosperous lives

As said you indicated that in your future

It would be a place where those deemed not worthy of life were terminated and people sterilised - to stop their genes from going forward

And a place with no public assistance so returning to a time when many needlessly suffered in hardship even unto death.

A place where preventable ‘bad’ things are allowed to happen

In what way is that a ‘better’ world and who do you think it benefits?

LOL you call me a liar because I said - It would be a place where those deemed not worthy of life were terminated and people sterilised - to stop their genes from going forward -

Then a few line later you admit that I was correct - maybe it is you that should look up what honesty means?

 

srg

How has a baby the freedom to choose not to be born into disadvantage?

In what way does a baby willingly choose to be born into disadvantage?

In what way can a baby make the unwise decision to be born into disadvantage?

The thing is that been born advantaged or disadvantaged is going to have a huge impact on a life going forward and the decisions and opportunities open to that person.

The adult is in large part the product of the life they were born into and grown up in.

It must also be pointed out that it is easier to overcome bad circumstance or even bad decisions from a position of advantage than one of disadvantage.

It is also always better to try and tackle the causes of problems rather than just the symptoms – that is why so much about making a better world is not just about giving to individuals but are communal things like healthcare, social services and education for the good of everyone.

People’s freedom of choice can change according to a person’s circumstance

I mean if someone is born into power and wealth which gives them freedom from exploitation and hardship and another is born into poverty which opens them to exploitation and hardship, then there is in that society an inequality of freedom.

The society is benefiting one over the other and if the ones getting the greater benefit are few compared to the others then that society is benefiting the few and not the many?

The question then arises is it justified for the person born into advantage to retain exclusive rights to advantages (and the extra freedom that brings) it didn’t deserve rather than share them with others who through no blame of their own are disadvantaged (and so limited in their freedoms).

 

srg

From what you have said I wouldn’t call you a Christian, unless it is one of those corrupted sects that is more about dogma and hate rather than love and understanding. I mean your philosophy does not come across as very Christian.

Ask again are you some form of anarchist that is opposed to all taxations?

 

Looking at the last few pages it’s interesting that it is those on the left that want a better and freer future while those that lean to the right have rather dark and ugly ideas for the future where freedom from exploitation, freedom from hardship and freedom from sickness is curtailed for the many and only allowed for a few.

 

Hate is extremely weird .

 

So is love.

 

Back to the subject at hand.

 

He will say it was rigged if he loses.
He actually said that the only way he can lose is if it's rigged.

 

Yes, but if he loses in a landslide he will (hopefully) see that it's hopeless to challenge the results and step down. Or at least a lot of his followers will see that it's hopeless to resist. Then again, maybe they won't see that at all.

 

According to the resident Qtip here Trump is going to refuse to relinquish his office if he's voted out.

 

If he needs to be dragged out of the White House in handcuffs then so be it. But I'm also concerned about what his followers might do. Hope it doesn't turn into a gunfight between them and the National Guard.

 

According to my delusional and rabid Trump supporting husband(he's a Q with a 7,000 member group on Facebook) that is a real possibility.
I said for him to look out, his cause is not worth dying for and he just smiled.
Those people are insane.

 

Narcissists can not understand not being the best at everything or that someone might not love them. They know and deserve everything because they are special. He has never asked an expert about anything he is the expert.

He is tortured by Biden voters and he wants to punish them for not loving them. His supporters kind of feel the same way sadly.

 

He's. 'special', right enough

 

Interesting...

A federal judge just said USPS delays were an "intentional effort" to undermine fair elections

 

I highly doubt that wages will improve under a Democratic admin. We had horrible wage gains in the previous Admin. The employers loved it they did not have to compete for workers.

 

The economic distribution in America is shocking and grim. It wasn’t that way prior to RR in 1980. But as Republicans were bought and paid for by the wealthy the economic system has been under stress. Without a prolonged period of Democratic Administrations and Congress, little progress will be made towards a more equitable system. Note that the destruction of labor unions was an integral part of the plan by conservatives. Worse, the system is profoundly broken, even by international standards and it will be a long hard fight to provide significant change.
All Trump has done is replace the shovel digging the hole deeper with an excavator. It’s baffling how his base which has lost so much could succumb to propaganda to vote against their best interests. Course it’s happened before in Germany, Italy, and the Soviet Union

 

Here in Indiana all the anti-union Republican guys run their mouth about Liberals and Democrats all day long as they work in a GM plant building Chevy pickups under a UAW union contract with full benefits.