We were gonna change the world...what happened?

you are so right emiel gone are the days of flower power to be a hippy is to be at one with your self amnd your life to be happy and always holsd on to a sense of freedom

 

I look both ways when I cross the "street"

 

We need to pull together, my hippie friends. I just need a few good hippies to help me start a cursade of peace and love. Peace and love starts with yourself. If you can attain these characteristics, you are a true hippie. Join me, my friends. I am a leader with a plan! We can make peace through good leaders with good plans to change the world. 1) Achive self created peace! 2) Preach and spread your ideas to others. 3) World Peace!

 

Dear teepi, thank you very much for your words.
I' didn't mean to judje you all, I just had my opinion and some questions, However, I understand that for you it's hard to hear when someone says "it could be better if no drugs" and I understood what you felt when I said it. If I were you, I would have the same reaction. Please don't think that I don't see want you have done. I've written this above too, but you were concentrating on negative words, I understand.
Dear Sh, Thank you for our dialog, 'cause now I know that I'm doing something for the world! I mean, I was helping poor people in the streets and feeding homeless animals for some years, but I didn't know that it's SOMETHING. I mean for me that was very usual and I was always asking myself: when will you start doing something?? I didn't recognize that I am doing something already. When you told me what were you doing to help others, I understood that I began to be helpful for the world already and if it's the begining, next steps will be more and more helpful! It was wonderful feeling when I recognized it! Thank you!
And please sorry if I was rude to you SH and others. I was thinking we were just disccussing but it wasn't so.
I had second discovery! I recognized that I'm hippy. Someone has written above that hippy isn't clothes, drugs - it's love and peace in the heart. I thought I wan't hippy 'cause I sometimes become nervous and abuse others if I don't like their activity/words. However, when SH told me that words and than explained me, that we all are humans and have emotions, I found that I'm hippy - cause I'm pacifist, and want world to be guided by love! It has no matter what I wear, use I drugs or not, am I emotional person or just flegma. Thank you for understanding it!
I love you all!

 

Ursula,
It's cool. As long as you found what you were looking for all is well.
Brightest Blessings.
sh

 

Dear Friends and Gentlepeople,

I've been reading some of the past couple week's postings to this thread and would like to add a few of my thoughts.

Drugs :

I think the term "drugs" is almost as hard to define as the term "Hippie". My definition is - a drug is something introduced into a living thing (people and other animals plus plants) for the purpose of changing that living thing. So "drug" would include herbs, asprin, caffine, pot, etc., etc.

I also know that in common use "drugs" means (mostly) non-prescription substances used to alter the user. I think is is worth remembering a few things about these drugs. Most are not new, most (pot, alcohol, tobacco etc) have been being used a long, long time. Not all hippies use(d) drugs and not all drugs are used only by hippies. I think that things like "the peace movement" are the actions of groups (BTW - not all hippies). Drug usage is the action of individuals.

Old Hippies:

One of the things that has bugged me for a long time is that some folks around these forums seem to think that us old hippies are some sort of idols, heros or keepers of some great and secret knowledge; that we are in someway unique, special and capable of actions that others are incapable of. Yes, we as individuals and in groups have tried to help, but that did not start with us nor will it end with us. The biggest difference is that old hippies have been at the party longer.

This thread started out as "We were gonna change the world...what happened?"My answer is, we've changed it. And the changeing is still happening. In the past 15 years or so the Berlin Wall and Iron Curtain came down. Many countries ended their totalatarian governments and became democrocies. Nelson Mandela was released from prison and Apartheid ended. All these changes have come about WITHOUT A WAR!!

Are there still problems? - clearly. More to be done? - yep.

And now the big one - Can we do it? I think we can. I think we will.

As "luvndrumn" did, I'll now quote CSN&Y (mostly Steven Stills):

"But you know we gotta do it

We gotta keep on keeping on

Because if we don't do it nobody else is gonna

But you know if we can't do it with a smile on our face

You know if we can't love in our hearts then children we ain't got no right to do it at all

Because it just means we ain't learned nothing yet

We're supposed to be some kind of different"


And to "Ursula Buendia", my definitation of a hippie: If you think you're a hippie and if other hippies think you're a hippie, then you are a hippie.


Peace,
poor_old_dad

 

amen my brother, amen, truer words never spoken, we gotta keep on keepin on and fight the good fight for freedom, in a peaceful way that is
hippiewise

 

POD....you're the best.
love,
teepi

 

Ya rode the storm out! Glad to see you out and about.

 

Off-topic, but: Ursula, is German your native language?

 

My dear beautiful ones...we have to keep grooving as hard as we can...we have to send out our deepest and strongest blessings...we have to be powerful and gentle...we have to find our purest, most tender heart and give it out to the world...we have to be the sacred keepers of that flame that we kindled so long ago, so it stays alive and ignites others to burn with the same desire for peace and love and freedom...we have to reclaim the wildness within us so we can keep the wilderness without...we have to love eachother fiercely and passionately...before hope dies away

 

Thanks!
Soo.... friends again?

I'm afraid of ask others yet

 

Off-tipic: nein, aber meine andere Fremdsprache ist Deutsch und ich glaube ich habe Problems im Schreibung, weil du das gefragt hast

 

Namaste

Thank you kindly.

Actually, none of the storms have effected me. I've had health problems, computer blew up, family and farm problems etc. Just a sucky several months. Now I'm borrowing computer time from my youngest son's friend. BTW, thanks for the email, I'm guessing you didn't get my reply (it was from another friend's computer). But, things are improving here and I hope to be around more.

Teepi ... well, you know......

Dear Lady, you need not ask others. We who are considered hippies see you as one too.


Even though a lot of good has been done, it is worth remembering that the "work" is still going on. Every day there are anti-war and pro-environment demonstrations. Work is continuing on racial and sexual equality. The fight continues against hunger, poverty and homelessness.

We were going to change the world ... what happened? Well we have and still are changing it. I think a better questions would be: what are we (each and in groups) doing now? What else can we do?

I've said it before, "The world still needs hippies".

Peace,
poor_old_dad

 

note that I have only read the first few pages

Fellow brothers and sisters. Wheres the passion?? Wheres the truth and love? I am of the younger generation. And it seems to me that we are feeling pushed and pulled. Enough! We must rise again! The world is in our hands. She will one day conqour. with or with out our help. I want to beleive that we can change more. I aggree with the thought that many were posers. Otherwise where are they today?? We need to revolt again. We need to oppose the system we have all let our selves get stuckin. I have been poor, and rich. And I am happier being poor, then I ever was with money. I can understand having to keep one foot in the system, to support a family. But why did so many give up their beleifs. Why werent they passed down. Why are we stuck in middle class white suburbia?? Let the pendullum swing back, but this time, lets not let it go so easily.

Love and peace from your children of the garden

 

We must change change world...and search for peace,love,freedom,happines..the primary goals of hippiedom...of my mind!!
I SAY: TURN ON,TUNE IN,DROP OUT!....'cause we must drop out
By turn on,i dont think 'bout drogs!!! Let it be your mind,soul,spirit....tomorrow never comes,so live for today,it's all one fuckin' day...
we have earth enyoy in mother earth,don fuck it...and just search for LOVE,and FREEDOM. it doesen't matter who you are...it matter's what you are!
Peace

 

We did change the world. And we made it (are making it) better. The environmental movement (if there had been no hippies we all would have been eating a lot more frankenfoods a long time ago), equal rights for women (still working on equal pay for equal work), forcing the white establishment to look at racial equality. The blacks made the civil rights movement but I think a lot of young kids shamed their parents into really seeing what was going on, and come to the realization that we were telling them the truth. The realization by ordinary people, about what it was about, forced the law makers into action for change. Not that it's perfect now a lot of racial inequality still exists. But our silence would have slowed the advancements.There are more examples out there I'm sure.

I went into a tirade about drugs and the influence to use them being generated more by the government, than by us, in another thread. So I'm not going to get into that again. I do think LSD was a good thing and a powerful influence on us to see that alternative realities were just as real and/or meaningful as our everyday visions (if you don't believe that then you've never had a meaningful conversation with a tree <g>). That brought hope that even the most far out ideas were possible. For all you who were there, I love you guys. We did good work, even though at times we were too fucking stoned to see it. We all have lost brothers and sisters to the drugs, but nothing compared to the brothers and sisters we are STILL losing to fucking wars, and arrogant jingoistic bullshit being still perpetrated on us by the worlds governments, (though some seem to want to give exclusive credit to the US for being bad, but honey it's fucking all of them!) and their lap dogs the media.


This is not a solution!

EDIT: Welcome Bosnia Hippi. Keep those thoughts!

 

InSearchOf. I couldn't agree with you more. A belly full of rice feels the same as a belly full of ChateauBriand. It's just the after taste that's different. Some of us haven't given up just yet, and probably never will. And yes there were a lot of fuckin posers/weekend hippies. Always has been, and always will be. Whether hippies, or conservative politicians who are suddenly concerned about the environment and jobs, now that the '06 election draws near.

Vote GREEN. Vote Often

 

One of our biggest changes is the recognition of non-violence in opposition to the Man. We have changed the movement into a non-violent one.

OH, yeah "What happened?" well, we grew up and realized that the world is not a static thing. As youth we saw the world and we were going to change it. Over the years, I have realized that the world was going to change, with me or without my help. It always has and it always will. The world is bigger than me. All I can do is keep on chugging in my part of it.

 

Larry and I gave upalot of things to be able to live as we want.
Our truck is 21 years old,we have no running water or septic.
I sew alot of my clothes and shop in thrift stores,we eat ALOT of rice and beans.
We do not work for anyone else.
We never go out to eat,or to bars.
Our main type of outside entertainment comes from the library and our own music.
I garden,sew and cook to make things stretch and to do things for myself.
I paint for enjoyment and to make the 240.00 we need to live each month now.

And I have never been happier.

We were talking about success earlier today and I said that if you asked alot of people what that meant they would probably say"succes is making alot of money"

To me success is doing what makes you happy.