We were gonna change the world...what happened?

now blacks ride in the back of the squad car,woman and small children are beaten and raped,we have an unjust war in Iraq,and we traded in nixon for a second generation bush.The reason the kids are protesting like we did is that they are being faced with the same future that we did.We need to lose our paranoia that we've gathered over the years The hate and prejudices that we have gained from living life and facing reality.We need to toss our weaponry and unlock our doors,get back to the streets that is if we truly want to get back to the garden.peace

 

I' afraid of being rude, but I decided to write what I think, however:
That generation was the experimental generation: They tasted, explored all the existing drugs! Because of this, today it's known which medicament may cause what kind of damages. They were like bunnies in the laboratories, the only difference was that they theyself were making experiments on themselves. Now we know, what final effects LSD, Marijuana etc. have.
Secondly, because of the fact that we can easy have sex without wedding and other ceremonies.. -we must be grateful of hippies. They've given us this gift
However, that generation was the most peaceful generation in all times!!!! They really could change the world in political way in case of no drugs.. They were in surrealistic, psychedelic world all the time, they were not HERE, how could they change something?? However, they really have the power of it because they knew how to love.

I'm so sorry that hippies ended in this way I really wish to have the generation of beautiful people second time, but I am afraid it will never repeat ..

 

We did in fact change the world, but then time passed and the world went back to killing one another and making money. As for us, we isolated ourselves more and made our revolution a more personal thing.....though some of us also went out and started making money anyway.

But you can't help noticing that the world's pretty broken and in need of repair; people are spiritually broken and in need of repair. Love isn't a fad or the slogan for a generation; it's something that has to be embraced as a lifestyle. Killing and bombing and hating and making money are the best ways to kill the spirit and bring on death, disease, destruction. When will they ever learn? Seeger said it best, and it isn't a fad. It's common sense, and until the world comes back to its senses, death will continue to reign supreme.

True hippies have never strayed from the path. Embrace love and live for it, or you die.

 

Ursula, I don't mean to sound rude either, but maybe the books your reading are not sending you the right message of what really took place in that era, or what we hippies are doing now.

I don't see many young people of today out trying to change things. We are a lifestyle not an experiment. As far as drugs, LSD-25 opened up a whole new world of possibilities, and open eyes and hearts to being human or to human being. We of likemind gathered together to change things and we did, we set a balance in the universe. We sent out love and brotherhood, unity and strength. All the negitivity that being let loose in the universe was building up and causing an imbalance in the atmostphier. With our chants and prayers and our outcry for justice and equility we changed events that were taking place in the universal flow. Sas has a point about time taking it's tole and things reverting back as they were, but I don't feel that it's our generations fault, but the ones that came up after, they were suppose to pick up the torch and carry through, they were the ones that chose the currupt money and politcial route.
Sure some of us had to seek employment to feed our families but we held true to our beliefs and taught our children a better way. What they, you or whom ever do is their choice. What we did was realize and we acted upon it. We got imprisoned, beat, riddiculed, spit on, run out of towns, and even killed for just having long hair and beads. You can wear what you want now days. You can gather/speak in peaceful assembly and not be shot. You can be different and still be accepted by humanity. That's the road we paved for the younger ones coming up behind us. We made it easier for you to express your freedoms. We are still trying to change things. We are voting, we are demonstrating against the war, we are still fighing the battle. Why not ask yourself what you doing to imporve things yourself instead of what we are doing to improve thing for you, or making uneducated speculations.(no offence intended). I just grow (as many of us do) weary of carring all the responsibility of changing or not changing the world. We did what we could. Who failed who?
sh
sh

 

Hey there SH,
Again I aplaud you for setting the record
right as to how it was,how it is and how the newbies can make it be~
You are right,our tired bones have already walked the walk and talked
the talk, and have been around the block so many times that we own it~

 

One of my all time favorite sayings "Want to change the world???
Start with yourself."

That is all you can do.
You start with the way you choose to view the world.....with love in your heart,or with greed in your mind.
Then you live accordingly.

The way the world is set up...its hard to "change" anything in any kind of timely manner on a large scale,if the majority people are on different pages. It cannot possibly change any major course unless mass numbers are affected by a like situation and come together to shift the course at the same time.

The Vietnam war did this...many people who were not even personally effected by that war "caught" the vibe and joined in. It brought a tremendous amount of people together with a common goal.It also taught us that the Goverment is not always "for: the people.
We started to question our leadership...and still do.

Maybe this lie of a war will do the same.

But yes while that generation of baby boomers and those close in age lived a life of breaking rules, breaking ties that bound, and pushing the norm over the edge,.. they also grew up and alot had to become responsible adults....and alot realized they were becoming their parents...haha.
How many times did I say "I'll never say THAT to my kid"...and said it??

We live and we learn, we go on our path. We change our ideals and hopefully replace them with better ones.

The world around us has a ripple effect as do we on it.

Right now I see big changes coming.
Greed being at the root.
And that is why I am glad I held on to alot of my beliefs about living as close to the land as you can
Carry no debt.
Learn everything you can about doing for yourself.
Turn your passion into a trade or learn one.
Be prepared for anything that may come your way.
Realize this country owes you nothing and thats probably what you'll end up getting anyway.
Learn how to barter and learn how to have something to barter with.

Ask yourself this...If the power went off, the phones went down, and all the stores closed,what would I do.

If you know any young people or have children..teach them what you know.
This is important.
If you don't know anything...find someone willing to teach you, then pass it on.

We are all connected.

Someone said earlier...we have not stopped yet we can still create change....look at the sweet young ones who are here. Who want to continue of carrying that torch that we lit....they are the ones to talk to,encourage,embrace and teach.

I remember being that 12 year old who ran away and found a community of freaks willing to take me in and put me in touch with nature and myself.
We owe it to ourselves, our planet, our children and each other to recognize these youngins who are eager to hear what we have to say.

Yes we are not done yet.

And I know alot of us are tired but share a story or 2.
Give a bit of advice or encouragement...share your little ol light.

love to all of you,
teepi

 

Bring back pure LSD-25 in heavy doses. It's what fuelled the Haight-Ashbury. Love and Peace (still) R.A.T AUZTRALIA

 

Teepi, so glad you're back...missed you and your posts.

This was a good one you posted here...we need you, don't go away!!!

 

Hey there mimosa~
Any luck contacting Jose yet?
You got me worried~
RSVP on an E mail will ya~

 

I'm a "newbie", but at 27 I think that I have had a reasonable amount of life experience to know when things aren't right. I've had the good job, the nice apartment and the company car. I've had more money than one person could need. And I was as miserable as hell.

I never intended to become a "hippie", I've been labeled one. But if that label puts me in a group that sees love and beauty of in people and the world, who want peace and a return to past values (community, well-being, loving thy neoghbour, no borders, etc) then by all means stick a label on me.

I am frustrated that there doesn't seem to be much happening in the world, as far as making a "hippie" difference goes. But I'm learning that it does begin with oneself, and if your lucky you can spread that to a few close, deserving people.

Life sucks, it probably always will. The secret is to block out the shit and live your life, to your values.

Love, peace and happiness to all forum members xx

 

Excuse me in advance. I usually finish reading all the posts before I respond but this one just smacked me in the face.

Sweety, its a sad sad thing that you think this is the only contribution. Just because we did LSD doesn't mean we are brain dead puddle fuckered. This generation is fried out on a shitload more (and worse) drugs than acid and pot!! Meth and cocaine in the form of crack is epidemic and contributes nothing, ectectect. You seem to be helping to perpetuate things about hippies that I find demeaning and are about the minority of a large and diversified group.

It would appear that you haven't a clue of how many things were created by those "bunnies". Alot of the new technology that is around today for example. Many of the original programmers have quietly admitted to being high as fock when they created much of what we take for granted on the computer like having a working operating system. Alot of literature as well as art, music....created much more than most people realize or ever will.

Final effects on marijuana and LSD...hmmmm.....oh...my mutant, three eyes twelve toed children I suppose *wanders off to finish reading this thread while giggling*

 

I know that everyone is intitled to their opinion, but an opinion is usualy back up by facts, where in your most wild imagination did you get you information on hippies at.
I personnaly dropped over 500 times, the best purple Owzley ever made. I smoked at least 3 bales of weed and did a ton of methadrine(the real deal). I've smoked DMT, Hash, and a shitload of other so called drugs like peyote and shrooms. I don't do these 'drugs' any more cuz I'm in a good place in my head and heart and don't need them. I do smoke the peace pipe still, but my point is, I did all this and have been smoking pot for 42 years and I am here to tell ya, weed doesn't harm anyone.
I'm dang near 55, ya I know I'm young yet, but most of the straight people I know my age are on every kind of fucked up DRUG that the PharmCos pump into them with out question or study and later it's discoverd that they are POSION and then they die or live a few horribaly painful years and then die. I don't take MEDs and I am fine, no heart problems, no diabetes, no high blood pressure, no mental depression no enything. The only thing that makes me sick is IGNORANCE.
Ursala you need to read different books. Not the ones in your history class bc they do not ring true. Schools are run by the state which is govt standerds. ole gov doesn't want you to know the truth, gov wants to keep us down, ole gov wants us dead and out of the way.
Don't believe everything you learn in school is the truth, only the truth that the gov says is truth is how they control you, and they don't tell what Creator holds as truth. They took HIM out of society and replaced HIM with, humm, lets see, ahh, yes they replaced HIM with BUSH.
sh

 

Hey there SH~
You are the very best at what you do~
Best of all you give constructive critisisim~
Anyone with an ear for learning from the
people who were there
will surely be turned on to the real
deal and facts about drugs and big brother~

 

Hi Carol,
I can only say what I know is TRUTH, I am a seeker of truth and light. I can smell bullshit walking a mile away. It's the Heart of the matter that I seek. What I know from all I have experienced and what I have seen others experience is what I draw the truth from. I'm not in a box but free to think and free to learrn and grow in knowledge and spirit. We are here to pass on what we have learn, we must reach the youngers and tell them the truth about the Game of Life and How To Play.
The Beats enlightened the youngers of their time (us baby boomers) and we evolved into The Hippy. What we bring to the Table of Life and feed our Children will bring on a new evelution/revelution into play. But only with the TRUTH shall you see the real side of what we are/were. So listen closely and learn, and don't assume you know us from your school books view of who we are and what we represent.
Brightest Blessings
sh

 

Good evening Ladies,
I see you're angry with me
I haven't have any books in school about hippies. Everything I know about them is from hipforum.com and hippy.com and please notice that I haven't said that hippies didn't do anything!
The question of this thread was: what happend? - this means that why isn't world peacful, why are the children of hippies not hippies? There was the whole youth who wanted peace, who wanted change the world, why haven't come those hippies in government and change the world? I've answered that I think that they haven't power to make political things, because they were under drugs all the time! I know it's good for spirituality, self-findness etc. but with surrealistic mind it's impossible to change the world.
However, I've one more quetion now..: Why haven't broke up those hippies their chidren so, that they wanted peace as much as their parents??? After generetions weren't so peacful and today we see new and new wars in the world. So answer, why??
Dear Sh, you're very right that you don't use meds. I think it damages organism.
However, I'm not agree that drugs are safe. They are bad.
So please don't be angry. I've said in my previous post that man needs clear mind to do something worldwide. You were very big in amount and you could really change the politic. I don't think that there will be the same generation ever, who wholy wants peace. You had a chance, but you wanted to be deep spiritually... it's some egoistish I think.. however, I don't say that hippys haven't done ANYTHING. They were really helpful for us, but not in peace.

 

No one is angry at you, you just don't see the point. And you keep saying we did nothing for Peace. I beg to differ.
Did you grow up in the 50's when women were expected to go to school marry their high school sweetheart get married have babies be a housewife and nothing more ahh yes and be a subservient, submisive wife under her husbands rule. Did you take a look in the deep southern states where the blackman were hung and dragged through the streets because they spoke to a white woman or did you ever have a job in that era where women got .55 per hour and a man got 3.50 for the same job. And children were seen and not heard.
I lived in Dallas as a child and the only black people I saw was a nanny we had once and a man at Whites Cafiteria cleaning the floor. You were ousted if you talked to the few hispanics that were around. And sent to a home if you mixed with the "blacks".
There may be residue from that era still here but not on as large of a scale as it was in my day.
The Hippie just stopped thinking in that narrowminded box and started to come alive with dreams and ideas of a better way.
Some went and got lost in the drugs but not all of us. We didn't stay fucked up when we grew up. Most of us don't do drugs at all except for smoke. You ask Why we were not in politics, we were, do you think that the machine was going to let us in. Hell no we faught like cats and rats trying to break through the iron doors of the Illuminati. Only Creator can stop the Illuminati. Now go look up Illuminati and we'll talk further.
sh

 

Well said s_h. I was never angry either. I was just pointing out what I saw as an incorrect evaluation.

 

hey Mom,
I think sometimes our words come out harsher then they were meant. As we cannot see the faces and eyes of the ones who speak to them on the net, one cannot always know that the eyes and face are kind and caring and not mean or hard. That the things said are given in love and caring for ones fellow man. How can we change things if we cannot relate, how can we teach and learn if we bind ouselves to convention.
Ursula, We wanted connection with Spirit because the reality of the body was not enough. We thought if we could find our purpose we could become better people. we thought if we joined together in a large scale we could bring balance back to the universe, and we did for a time. Peace starts within and works outward. The first steps in making a change is inside each one of us, it's starts at home. It's carrried from the heart of home into the streets for all to wittness and share in. It was not us that stoped. We are still here. See us working to being about peace.
sh

 

hi ursula,
my name is hippiewise and i have been reading your post about the hippies of the 60's. i agree with you and feel that drugs deffinetely got in our way. we did accomplish alot though. i remember when black people had to ride on the back of the bus and they couldn't legally vote, i remember when women had no rights at all, i remember when the native americans had no voice at all. i remember having to stay in an abusive marriage because once again women had no rights, and there was no where to go for help. i am a motivational speaker and i always tell my audience that i felt the drugs got in our way of changing the world. but you see we were like children in a candy shop, in the beginning we didn't know the drugs would hurt us, then we found out later that they did. i lost many friends from overdoses and many music artists are gone because of overdosing: jimi hendrix, jim morrison, janis joplin, the list goes on. but i do believe that pot opened our minds alot and sometimes gave us the courage to stand tall against a puritanical world and government. my generation, i am now 58 years old, left our homes because we were tired of being told how to do everything, including living our lives. mainly, alot of white uppermiddle class kids, like myself protested against the 50's way of life, very uptight and rigid. i enjoyed the sexual revolution very much, until it caught up with me, like it did so many others. but i hope you understand that we did change the world by breaking the barriers that were inflicted upon us and in our way. we did it our way, whether it was right or wrong, we did it. the women's rights movement gave me the courage in 1973 to leave an abusive husband. i have been a protestor since the early 70's. i feel that your generation has the same opportunity that we did, but maybe without the drugs, what do you think? i like the fact that you have the courage to ask the questions that you do. peace and joy, hippiewise

 

Hey there everyone~
If anyone really cares to know how it was and is,
ask SH~
From all that I have read and come to know about her
I would say from my personal standpoint that she is one of a handfull
who holds a wealth of knowledge in her heart and mind~
I do not believe that she will ever stear anyone in the wrong dirrection
when it comes to the truth about our generation.
For all of the newbies,SH has been there and done that whole scene~
Has come full circle with herself and her life~
She has nothing to gain by being a moderator or teacher to us,
except to keep on spreading the word and fighting for the cause~
Be it 2005 or back in the day,
SH calls it like it is~
No hold backs~
Just streight up truth~
Appreciate what she brings to our table and learn from it~
We can't put our arms around a memory but we do have
It is always a pleasure and honor to read any of her posts~
SH:
Thanks for taking thie time to reach into your heart and for
always being true to yourself~
As always Carol