We were gonna change the world...what happened?

Discussion in 'Back to the Garden' started by mosaicthreads, Mar 11, 2005.

  1. Karl Rand

    Karl Rand Member

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    Some very positive things did come out of the flower power ( or whatever you want to call it) generation. Gay liberation, sexual freedom, organic farming, fabulous music etc.
    Sadly though the human race, by and large, is insane and will continue to be so until we achieve the extinction of our species.
    From my perspective, one of the forces that's run things backward is fundamentalist religion, both Christian and Muslim. I know saying that's like throwing a brick into a wasp's nest but I suggest it's true.
     
  2. Karl Rand

    Karl Rand Member

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    But who 'built' the ancient aliens?
     
  3. Karl Rand

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    The phrase 'change the world' had been used over and over here tending to obscure the central aim of the so called 'hippie revolution' which was even more ambitious. This was to change human nature. A challenge still with us if our species is going to survive. The signs aren't encouraging.
     
  4. uitar9

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    "Change the World"??? Damn that sounds like a big task. It's so long ago, I can't remember if me and my friends had a theme....other than sex, drugs and rock n roll. That might not be the message the serious hippies of the time want to hear.
     
  5. Asmodean

    Asmodean Slo motion rider

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    What happened?: It is still changing (naturally).
     
  6. uitar9

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    Exactly-we all have our interests, and brought them with us as life charges on.
     
  7. thismoment

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    LMAO - we have a 2nd term black president, marijuana is legal in 2 states/medicinal in others, openly gay people can serve in the military (you'll be sor-reee) and same-sex marriage happening, hospice care in most communities, mother-fucking UNIVERSAL HEALTHCARE happening, so on and so forth. Not to mention the amazing array of psychedelics these days or the, uh, quality of the smoke. It's not all perfect, but what huge shifts.

    THESE ARE A LOT OF THE THINGS WE HAD IN MIND.
     
  8. Karl Rand

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    Yes, a lot of things we had in mind but the country is still bankrupt.
    Why though would the military be sorry for having openly gay members serve?
    History tells us many of the great generals were as camp as a row of pink tents. Montgomery, Rommel, Alexander The Great - the list goes on.
    But let's not get too optimistic while fundamentalist Christians hold a huge block of votes in the mid-west. Still, I suppose it's a case of be greatfull for small mercys if you live in the US.
    Luckily I don't.
     
  9. thismoment

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    "You'll be sor-reee" is a traditional greeting given by old guys to new guys (FNGs) coming in to a new situation like a combat zone.

    I'm not anticipating utopia anytime soon (other than in my mind and life), but I'm glad to live here. The glass is more than half full and there's a lot happening! :D

    Here's what I've been listening to from Australia: http://soundcloud.com/manifestivities/the-auzsome-mix
     
  10. GiveLoveLife22

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    The only way to change the world is to change yourself.
     
  11. high anxiety

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    or maybe by helping someone else.
     
  12. laughing-buddha

    laughing-buddha Relax and have fun

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    When I was young, I wanted to change the world

    Now that I am old, I have realised that it would be enough even if I change only one person (i.e. myself)
     
  13. childofdelight

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    We must help ourselves first before we are able to help others in turn.

    Peace
     
  14. childofdelight

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    Change has to come from within: change yourself, change your family, change your neighborhood, change your community, change your city...

    All it takes is a few simple acts of kindness: the people who you meet will carry these acts of kindness with them out into the world and, hopefully, pay it forward.

    Aim to provide others with a model to consider.

    Be excellent!
     
  15. thismoment

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    I'm involved in the transformational gathering scene. One of the things I do is teach classes on psychedelics for PTSD and at the end of life. In a way these gatherings and classes are a continuation of work I started in 1975.

    At that time, the big majority of people with terminal cancer died in hospital and in pain. Now a majority die at home with pain mostly well-managed. We made that happen. If you look at the early years of death awareness you'll see people like Ram Dass, Stephen Levine, and others - acid consciousness played a huge role in all this. People don't generally decide to walk into the valley of the shadow of death over and over again out of everyday consciousness.

    And now I'm sitting with these young hippies and we're working it out. I feel blessed beyond measure.

    I can't believe there aren't more older people at these deeply psychedelic gatherings. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iF7bH1wQ_d4"]Series Preview :: The Bloom: A Journey Through Transformational Festivals - YouTube
     
  16. Wahkon

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    A Call To Unite And Retribalize The World

    by Thomas Ivan Dahlheimer

    The world renowned visionary Daniel Quinn is promoting a revival of the 1960s counter-cultural revolution. He has a website that receives 20,000 hit's a day. A review on the back cover of his book "Beyond Civilization", published in several languages, reads, "The retribalization of the world: what a extraordinary possibility!" When referring to lyrics by Bob Dyan, Quinn wrote: "Why things didn't end up changin." He also wrote: "This time it'll be different."

    I correspond with two of the leaders of the counter-cultural revolution: Albert Bates, the spokesman for Stephen Gaskin's world-renowned hippy community, and Skip Stone, the webmaster of hippyland, an interactive site with 225,000 members. Stone has posted articles of mine about my retribalization of the world, counter-cultural new age globalization mission, as have also the webmasters of popular indigenous websites. I also correspond with world renowned indigenous activists who promote the tribal way and work with the United Nations.

    In the late 1960s, one of the leaders of the revolution, Richard Carter, and I, along with some other members of the Mr. & Mrs. I. C. Rainbow family, my maternal kinship family, traveled, together, to Wahkon, Minnesota to potentially establish a Rainbow family, kinship tribal community. I am now trying again to accomplish the goal of the original plan, "this time it will be different," the Rainbow family community will be established so that it can lead this peaceful revolution to victory.

    There is support for the global indigenous decolonization movement within the counter-culture's new age globalization movement. These movements are quickly becoming a single unified movement. They both promote the retribalization of the world, globalization paradigm. And they are both opposed to the Marxist socialists' and Western capitalists' globalization paradigms.

    The capitalists of the American-led, Western globalization movement believe the individual is the primary unit of political measurement, and individuals behave on the basis of rational self-interest.

    To both the Marxists and indigenous people, collective/group interests are the primary unit of political measurement. The collective for Marxism is class identification. For indigenous people it is the kinship tribe within the local ecosystems in which the various tribes live. They believe that humanity belongs to a natural ecosystem, kinship tribalism being an important part of it, and that humanity must shape its behavior accordingly to restore the natural balance and end the global ecological crisis.

    For indigenous people, kinship (tribal) collective rationality within an ecocentric value system, and not individual, nor (class) collective rationality within an anthropocentric value system, should be the driving force behind human behavior.

    Indigenous societies the world over share a common past and are now establishing, with the help of the United Nations, a plan for a decolonized future. This plan, influenced by the UN and counter-cultural activists, will promote a set of values and assumptions which will radically change the entire global system and usher in a new age and new world order.
     
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  17. Paulwenz

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    If you can do some good things each day, learn something new, fight your own ignorance and other peoples apathy you have had a good day!

    Play some music .
     
  18. Paulwenz

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    You can change a fair bit in a day, other stuff takes time.
     
  19. Scorpio Kenny

    Scorpio Kenny Church of the Good Earth - ArchBishop

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    We did change the world.

    We all changed.

    All of the rest all did whatever. For this, I cry.
     
  20. Scorpio Kenny

    Scorpio Kenny Church of the Good Earth - ArchBishop

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    Changing yourself is bullshit. You have to help the others or you have failed completely.

    Only changing yourself is being a Dick.
     

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