We were gonna change the world...what happened?

All right earthmother, you have my attention. I like your idea. You have no doubt read my posts and know that I have the desire, passion and need in my life to be a part of something like you describe. You seem to have the experience, knowledge, and it sounds like the leadership ability to guide those of us who are like me?

I'll take this op to put in my resume. You let me know how I can help.

I have 14 years experience in radio and television. Much of that time was spent in advertising and promotions. I am a novice webmaster and am fairly up to speed on Internet communications. I have formed several non-profit groups and served on the board of others. I'm not wealthy, but am willing to give what I can financialy in addition to my time and other resources. I am unemployed right now, so time is one thing I have plenty of. I also am a writer and poet, singer and songwriter; although, I've never seriously attempted to capatalize on my creative abilities.

That's it man! When do we start?

 

The reason americans won't do the work is cause the money ain't right.It's the employers not the employees legal or not.
When we change, the world changes.If we change for the better ,the world changes for the better.It don't take any time except a few minutes of meditation or maybe a good doob.Actually every time you post, things change a little.
The world is a family.Global warming,polution,nuclear fallout.We're on the same planet and need to coexist.i'd rather sink in my hole too.In fact more often then not i do.Thats why we chose leaders to do the dirty work and then we down them for doing it their way instead of ours.Actually i just want to live and die.
free the land.Land ownership is a sin.i own my property,don't want people wandering around.Of course i'm gonna do what works for me and mine,but is it right?It was stolen in the first place.

 

his freedom to make money?Nah He just didn't like being fucked with.

 

thats my point....the money is hardly ever right for menial labor...the mexicans will come and do it..because 1.00 in US dollars is 10.00 in pesos.
If they make 2.50 an hour its 25.00 when they go back over the border.

Talk to alot of these kids out there today....no way they would wash dishes, for minimum wage.
Minimum wage is impossible to live on. Yet the Gov. views it as fair.

 

As far as the land being stolen in the first place....if the land should belong to everyone how could it ever be stolen???

EXCEPT now your land and mine can be stolen...in the name of greed, the Supreme court and their new eminent domain law.
USED to mean the goverment could aquire your land for the good of the public:ie, railway,highway building and such.
NOW Mr.Doohickey builds a strip mall next to your land and needs your place for a parking lot...OK!!You lose.

And there's lots of money in porn...mostly because it is taboo.

Tides are turning.

 

Well, I haven't heard from earthmother yet, but I have gotten some positive feedback from many folks over the past few days.

I think that getting something started has been a seed that has been growing inside me for a long time, it just needed a place to take root and flourish. This forum may just be the fertile ground needed for this seed to grow.

In fact, after I posted my reply to earthmother, the idea cystalized more clearly in my mind, and it didn't take long before I had put something clear and precise into words.

You can HELP by clicking the link below. Let's get something started!

http://hipforums.com/forums/showthread.php?p=2024984#post2024984

 

Most of the illegals i've worked with i've known for years.They stay here the money goes back to the families.The thing is though,can you blame them?They're looking out for their families.The wages are slightly higher down there now but even at a 1/10 exchange rate they were only making a few pasos a day.We bitch and moan but thats unliveable.It's the employers who need to be held liable.These guys live in fear of their jobs everyday.They're scared shitless of losing that minimum wage.Their employers know they're scared and play on it.myself as an employer,i wouldn't hire an illegal.i believe in hiring local.i also believe in paying well and passing on all the knowlege i can.As a result i have well trained kids who work hard and do whatever needs to be done.If i say jump they'll say'go screw yourself"but they'll say it with respect.rambling.My point is the employers need to be held responsible.
Frankly i'm a buccanon nationalist.i've read his books and voted for him.i don't see him as a racist any more then jesse jackson.Look at his vice presidential
running mate,a black female socialist.i also voted for jerry "moonbeam" brown and nader.i'd like to see nader and buccanon get together.
Nafta could have been a dream.Establishing a viable economy in south america and making it better for all.No reason to come up here then.Ask most of the illegals,they'd rather be home where their roots are.Unfortunatly it was just business as usual,both sides got screwed.peace

 

the world is yours,the world is mine.What gives us claim to it except an arbitrary piece of paper passed from one warlord to the next until it was finally bought and sold by greedy landbarrons who let us use a piece of it in exchange for a piece of our life.Who did they steal it from,they stold it from all of us and they're never gonna give it back.
A strip mall is for the good of the public if they sell porn.

 

ha its very easy to live on...larry and I live on 230.00 a month.

But we built our own little house way out in the woods on land we are buying from a friend.
We ahve a 21 year old truck that he can work on and I cook from scratch.

But if I lived in a city and had to rent and had a kid...well, thats another story.

 

Gatey...with those business practices...you're an exception.

Thing is very few emplorers are going to look out for the workers...thats a pipe dream.
They only pay minimum wage because they are forced to.
Hell, look at the company stores in the mining towns.

We would be a sweatshop nation if they weren't made to pay that at least.

I could get into some Ralph Nadar...but he hasn't a snowballs chance.
Jimmy Carter I felt was a great man.
He could never last in the den of lions....he gave us a wonderful energy credit deduction...Reagan immediatly pulled it.

You and I have alot of the same wishes for this country....

 

The real dilemna here is when you see somebody doing something, that you don't care for personally, but at the same time you feel the need to stand up alongside him in order to defend that freedom which the government tries to take away. So even though you find the person disagreable, you must stay focused on the bigger picture. I've never been a big fan of "girly" magazines, but I think they come under the shield of freedom of speach, and as such are deserving of my support. I'm not sure that made any sense.

"In the end we will not remember the words of our enemies, but the silence of our friends" M.L. King

 

Okay, what are you willing to die for?

"Greater love hath no man than this, that a man lay down his life for his friends."

 

Civil war is revolution.Dr. King preached non-violence.It was the violence from the other side that got him attention.Then there's Gandhi,another non-violent revolutionary.hmmmPerhaps too much time on that military base had some influence?Calm down and look inside.The change will happen.

 

What bout kitty porn?When does freedom of speech stop and become abuse?Those poor cats.

 

We have all come to die.. It depends on what you believe in, what your covictions are, and the purpose of your lessons
*Story* My man n me wanted to live off the land, it was in our blood. We WORKED hard for it, we gave blood, sweat and tears for it. It's not an easy way of living, but it's closer to the Source and while working with Mother in Her Center of Life, the material world slips away and you are left with what you bring. You grow from what you produce. The ultimitt responsiblity lays within the heart of being with the One Mind. Sometimes we lose sight of our true goal in life and get caught up in 'worldly' matters, our goal being, Perfecting Ones Self... Don't get me wrong, I am the first to addmitt my imperfections. We all can be judgemental. We are human and have our frailities and shortcomings. But then we see our own insecurities in others and lay blame, we hid in our own judgements in pretence of enlightenment.
We can only draw from our own experiences and grow from the knowledge gained there within and apply it to daily living of life. My way may not be the same path to knowledge as others may choose to walk, but all roads lead to rome. We will each find what we came to know when it is time to know it.
This I die for a little each day.
sh

 

voided, Actually no, I haven't looked at your post yet and don't intend to at this point. To be honest, I've been to busy trying to get something postive started. Anyway, when you get ready to organize that civil war let me know. Without a group to fight for your right to privacy though, your plans will likely be uncovered by a government tap or something before you get the chance to spill all that blood you hunger for.

Don't like America? Relocate. Don't like my ideas? Don't participate. Giving me the benefit of the doubt? Don't do me any favors.

And don't think for a second that I can be punked because I'm concerned. Or because I believe the pen is mightier than the sword and love never fails. Yeah man I've been there to, and I'm no mark. So please, don't stick your chest out at me. You don't know me.

Anyway, I started writing this right after you made the post that I quoted, but I've been working on some other stuff also. Now I see that you have posted a retraction to your earlier call for blood. Get focused, get in or get out, but don't let it get to you like that. geeeez!

 

yeah,but what about the cats?!!nashville cats.How many guitar pickers are there really in nashville?

 

And friends, somewhere in Washington enshrined in some little folder, is a
study in black and white of my fingerprints. And the only reason I'm
singing you this song now is cause you may know somebody in a similar
situation, or you may be in a similar situation, and if your in a
situation like that there's only one thing you can do and that's walk into
the shrink wherever you are ,just walk in say "Shrink, You can get
anything you want, at Alice's restaurant.". And walk out. You know, if
one person, just one person does it they may think he's really sick and
they won't take him. And if two people, two people do it, in harmony,
they may think they're both faggots and they won't take either of them.
And three people do it, three, can you imagine, three people walking in
singin a bar of Alice's Restaurant and walking out. They may think it's an
organization. And can you, can you imagine fifty people a day,I said
fifty people a day walking in singin a bar of Alice's Restaurant and
walking out. And friends they may thinks it's a movement.

 

The money issure to me is like, we all need money.. even the ones of us that live off the land or in harmony with the land. The land itself cost money to have, TAXES.. we all gotta pay them. There is always a price that someones pays for our so called freedoms.
As long as the forces that be are in power we have no real freedom. The Gov can step in at any time day or night and take your home and possessions by force, and you must comply or die.
The only real freedom we have is what we think and how we act, our Spirits are free to soar beyond our human entrapment.

 

lol, I love Arlo.. watta gas.. another movement, ohh myyy.. now where did I leave my peace movement sign..