Was Jesus God?

Repeating a word doesn't give it meaning. Can you please describe what would be acceptable as evidence? Also, ask yourself why some things are acceptable as evidence and others are not.

As a friendly observation, you might be careful slinging ideas like that about. Are you certain that your position as an agnostic/laveyan satanist meets the same evidentiary standards that you place on Ikdenkhetniet? If it does, please provide it so that we can all learn to better appreciate your position. If it does not, then, well, with all due respect, are you not being just as moronic?

 

Yeah, suck his dick, and I was [indirectly] defending your ignorant Christian faith, but try to make a lame attempt at bashing your defender, eh?

 

So, are you going to answer my question or continue this pedantic and juvenile line of commentary?

 

And you can only believe that, if you are willing to ignore the 300 Old Testament Prophecies that Jesus Christ fulfilled. Prophecies that were written hundreds of years before Christ even appeared on the earth. Yet that comes as no surprise to me. The Bible tells us, the world will flee from the truth. And it also tells us, that men would rather believe a lie than the truth, because their deeds were evil.

 

I just realised this is funny: I describe Crud....

Crud makes it clear:

Ok.
I take back the 'Suburban' part.
You got me there.

 

i do not believe in god... or in Jesus's sainthood...
but i do believe he was a nice man trying to make the world peaceful with his ideology...
he just failed in that... unfortunately

 

Why do you believe that Jesus was trying ot make the world peaceful with his ideology?
That is certainly not what he thought would happen according to any of his teachings I know of.

Where did you get that idea about Jesus teachings from?

 

In reading the gospels, you can see where Jesus was promoting peace and acceptance. The men were about to stone the woman and Jesus simply asked them which one of them is innocent. Jesus talked to the outcast woman at the well. The place she was living was actually made up of outcasts and she was an outcast of that group. He reached out to the people that others thought were not worthy.


Whether you believe Jesus was a prophet or the Son of God or just plain crazy, you can learn by how he treated people. He challenged the laws of that day that kept people down and gave help to anyone that needed it. What would happen if we all did that.

While I was raised Christian and still go to a Christian church, I do believe God hears all prayers. My father had alot of Native American in him, which I am drawn to and love. I cannot believe that these ancestors of mine were doomed to hell simply because they never had a chance to believe in Jesus.

We are given free will to choose our own beliefs. What works for one, may not work for another. But if we can learn to be tolerant of each other, we can grow together and learn from each other.

 

Hare Krishna!


Dear Lai pantha, beautiful soul;

That is wonderful! Thank you.


Love,

Kumar.

 

Jesus stated that if it were not for His comeing man would destroy himself. Jesus actually knew how bad things are going to get. Not bad for someone who lived 2,000 year ago. And that was 1950 years before the H-Bomb. Now we do have the power to destroy ourselves. And now even more nations want to make more Atomic-Bombs.

 

hey people i don't know FOR SURE if he intended good...i can't read his thoughts as well as you cant
i'm just supposing...i believe he did
it's just my point of view
there are millions examples when some people intended good but the results were not like they expected...
i think this one is the brightest example
i don't think Jesus knew about h-bomb
he was just sinful human
humans tend to make mistakes

 

His intentions were not to bring peace to the world.
In this case, Jesus makes a distinction between what He calls 'the world' and then a 'spiritual kingdom'.

He intended to bring 'spiritual peace' between man and God.
Oh and how He succeeded.
He succeeded '100%'.
Not 99.9% of the way but entirely and permanently made peace between man and God.

You might have been given the mistaken idea that Jesus came to make the 'world' a peaceful place.
Alot of people in his day also believed He was there to make war against the world and bring peace to nations, neighbourhoods and socio-politico-economic systems.
Nope.

Campbell might be furthering this by pointing out how many times Jesus warned followers of upcoming wars, tribulations, unrest, and really Jesus predicts the 'World' will eventualy become less peaceful and ultimately destroy itself.

So far Jesus has been right on that last account too.

The 'Second Coming of Christ' is where Jesus claims he will eventually come back to Earth.
At that time, He promises to bring global peace on Earth.
So in that sense He is claiming He will eventually do that but His original deal was bringing Spiritual Peace between Man and God.
Which He did perfectly.
Its there for anyone who wants it.
Free.

 

oh well...anyway...
i don't care...
he's dead now...
though his evil religions still reigns...that's bad...

 

As a LaVeyan Satanist, you are your own God, and you worship thyself.

 

Jesus knew that at the time of the end whole cities would be destroyed in one hours time, and He also stated that if it were not for his return no flesh would be saved. And the Bible also tells us that when all of these things would begin to happen, would be after the Jews had returned to Israel, and had recaptured Jerusalem.

 

Did He fail, or did we fail Him?

 

Was Jesus a god?

No.

Was Krishna a god (though his account is more believable)?

No.

Was Isis a god?

No.

Was Dioynises a god?

No.

Why are none of these men gods? It may have to do with the fact that every culture and society has their own creation myths, gods, and religious mythologies that have no empircal basis. Early man didn't know about the world, so he often assumed certain supernatural things were possible. Which is why there are no godmen today.

 

John 5:7 is a proven fabrication. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comma_Johanneum

Protons, neutrons, and electrons, have different powers (charges, or lack there of). The Trinity has all 3 as having co-equal power. Hydrogen (Protium) doesn't have a neutron and only Hydrogen (Deuterium) has one of each. All the other elements, have more than 3 components. It's not a good analogy.


Peace