War on Terror-why arn't we winning ?

Discussion in 'Politics' started by Summerhill, Apr 17, 2013.

  1. odonII

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  2. roamy

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    willy.thank you.party happy hippie house july4th if you'd like ta come:grouphug:p.s.if ya meet any muslims along the way bring them with ya :)
     
  3. odonII

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    Where is my invitation, Roamy? : /
     
  4. Melanie_86

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    Wow... yeah like I said... A lot of them......... :D

    you're welcome..
     
  5. odonII

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    I can't see the 'Bullet Train For Australia' party going very far...
     
  6. Melanie_86

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    :toilet: about that far. Which is about as far as most of them. I mean someone even tried to start a party a couple of years ago for Extra Terrestials.....
     
  7. roamy

    roamy Senior Member

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    everyone in their electorate includes their own communitys rights!
     
  8. Melanie_86

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    they do no one denies that, but not to push their own religious/cultural agendas. That is a part of our constitution firmly ingrained. It has been tried believe me.
     
  9. roamy

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    faiths don't determine policy. politics do.and the only people that should'nt be elected ta any parliment are those who are are predjudice ta anyones individual faith or beliefs.faith is a personal thing.politics is a public thing.
     
  10. Melanie_86

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    make up your mind Roamy??? that was a little contradictory wasn't it?
     
  11. roamy

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    in what way do you find my statement contradictory.please elaborate.
     
  12. Melanie_86

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    in one sentence you say that people have a right to include their community rights when it comes to politics and then in the next you say that there shouldn't be any religion involved in politics. Community rights does approach religion if the group concerned is solely based on religion.
     
  13. Summerhill

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    Bloody right! If they had an Election tomorrow I'd have no idea who to vote for,in truth I probably wouldnt. Our democracys in poor shape.

    On the issue of religion in politics,as far as I know only the Church of England is represented in the English House of Lords. Can't see why any religion should be allowed such access. When it comes to faith schools why do they need tax payer money? The Catholics,CofE & Muslims ect are loaded,let 'em pay for there own schools. Otherwise we'll be forking out for the Church of the Latterday wackos,pagans & bog knows what else!

    Anyway,I'm totally against faith schools,having had to suffer one myself,there should be only state schools,multi-cultural, & kids should be allowed to choose there own faith-if any-not be born into it or have it forced on them by anyone.
     
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    What is it you claim to be fiction that has been presented by me?

    And I've yet to see where you answered my question explaining the difference between an Irish man/woman and an English man/woman.
     
  15. Melanie_86

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    there should only be schools that cater for everyone. Personally I don't believe in the concept of private schools; it creates too much of a us and them mentality in kids and leads to further division in the community.
     
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    Archbishops of Canterbury have been members of the House of Lords by virtue of their office since parliament first began many centuries ago. In today's Lords there are two types of member - the Lords Temporal (usually known simply as Peers) and the Lords Spiritual (the two archbishops and 24 most senior bishops of the Church of England). The Archbishop of Canterbury is the most senior member of the Lords, being the first member entitled to take the oath of allegiance at the start of a new parliament after the Lord Speaker. - See more at: http://www.archbishopofcanterbury.org/pages/government-parliament.html#sthash.Z0Lx6QLz.dpuf

    26 Lords Spiritual currently represent just under four percent of the total membership of the House of Lords.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lords_Spiritual

    Perhaps they do not determine policy, per se, but they certainly have an influence.

    I would say that when there is a free vote/conscience vote - then surely a persons faith comes into play.

    Perhaps not over every issue, but some.

    I guess you can't have all atheists in parliament etc, though.
     
  17. roamy

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    i suggest you reread my post again.what i said was the only people who should'nt be elected to parliment are those who are predudice to anyones individual faith or beliefs.and their is parliment in the world where any elected members are solely based on religion.so that makes zero sense ta me what you said there.
     
  18. Melanie_86

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    It was the way in which you worded it Roamy. My answer was based on that. Someone who gets elected to government who has purely their own religious groups agenda to push, should not be there. So in your second explanation you are correct. And yes there are governments who have their membership based on religion, they are in the main part Islamic governments. Although I do know Germany had the Christian something party ruling at one time.

    Willy, you are correct of course. But some members of the public do pursue politics for other reasons above the broader community. Like we have here in our State Government, two members of the Shooters and Fishers party.........
     
  19. roamy

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    Atheists in politics so far in history.

    Argentina 1
    Guyana 1
    Paraguay 1
    Uruguay 1
    China 2
    Spain 2
    Asia 3
    Germany 3
    Netherlands 3
    Canada 3
    Poland 3
    France 3
    Africa 4
    Russia 5
    Australia 6
    Middle east 6
    Italy 8
    Eire 8
    U.S 16
    others in Europe 17
    Britain 49
     
  20. Melanie_86

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    the last Prime Minister of Australia (deposed the other day in a party coup) was an Atheist.
     
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