WANTED: Abortion Logic.

I hear these people try and talk down to me & ask how I can claim to be such a peaceful, life-loving person, yet its so 'wrong to take a life away through abortion'.......yet nearly all these characters have no problem with war ?

 

It's not that hard to understand: they consider abortion to be murder. You may not agree, but the logic is pretty clear. Since we can't be sure when the baby becomes conscious, it doesn't matter much whether they are right or not.

I've recently heard about anti-choice chemists refusing to give women the Pill either. That's fucking twisted. IMO, these people shouldn't be allowed anywhere near the medical profession.

 

There is a very personal moral issue about when life begins. I am woman and pro-choice, but I do not agree with abortions after the first trimester (just for birth control). That's my moral breaking point for abortion. But I do agree with saving the mother's life at any stage. This is a very delicate issue that I normally only discuss with the fellow sisters.

 

Also, abortion has been around longer than the law and is a very natural thing. I'm not saying that in itself is justification for it. But it does make you wonder: the life force of the planet has not died out as a result of abortion, the species has flourished close to our planet's capacity to sustain it, and we don't really need as many more kids as we used to.

 

*ahem* I would like to point out, as I always do, that being pro-choice does not mean you are pro-abortion. You are pro-CHOICE, meaning you aren't getting in the faces of people you probably don't even know, and inflicting your beliefs on them. I believe in a womyn's right to choose what goes on inside her body. You cannot force her to carry to term a pregnancy she doesn't want, and you cannot force her to terminate a pregnancy she wants to carry to term. Pro-CHOICE.

 

^ This. However, one could argue that pro-lifers are pro-choice, since they offer the choice of abstinence or parenthood.

 

I do believe it is murder, but is it any of my business who gets an abortion and who doesn't? Not one bit. It is nobody's business accept the mother's and the father's.

 

i believe women have a right to choose so long as they do not use it as their own method of birth control

 

how can you believe its murder and not doing anything about it? Its none of your damn business? If you believe its murder, its your duty to make it your business... i believe thats how the holocaust happened..

And i really hate how people say that pro lifers dont care about kids once they are outside the womb and that they should go adopt some kids. There is long wait lists for adopting infants, there isnt many infants waiting around unwanted. It is, however, a much harder problem getting rid of older kids.


I also dont understand why people bring religion into abortion. Yes, the catholic church is openly against it, but so what? That doesnt mean that people believe it because the catholic church said its bad. Calling them religious freaks or other names only reflects badly on yourself.

 

Just a few thoughts:

• I believe life starts at the moment of conception, so technically, abortion is ending a human life.
• I believe that calling this murder is too simplistic.
• I'd rather abortions never happened, but this isn't an ideal world.
• I believe that it's not my body that's carrying a baby, so I don't have a right to say what's right and wrong for that person.
• I believe that all the people who waste their time on the pro-life cause would be far better off dedicating their energies towards creating a world where women didn't feel they needed abortions.
• I believe there'd be hardly any abortions if men stopped being so fucking unwilling to use contraception.

 

And calling pro-choice people "pro-abortion" isn't childish and name-calling? Do we picket the delivery rooms of hospitals and blow up midwives?

 

just another obviously divided issue

 

No offense, but pro choice people are pro abortion. Whether they want to have an abortion is another thing. Would you prefer abortion sympathizer?

Calling somoene a murderer is simplistic, as dok said, and will only increase the rift between the two groups. I dont see 'pro abortion' as childish and name calling, but thats just me.

 

But if you brand someone as 'pro abortion', there's an implication that they think abortion is a good thing and would like to see more of it. For example, I'm pro choice, but I'd like to see zero abortions in an ideal world. So calling me 'pro abortion' would be misleading, although I do support a woman's right to choose.

 

I've honestly never even heard the term pro abortion used until this thread....its always murderer or pro choice, but thats probably because americans tend to throw everything into a dichotomy.


There is of course an argument that pro choicers implicitly allow abortions to happen so therefore they are pro abortion.

 

... which is kinda like saying that a soldier is pro-murder.

 

Setting laws against abortion will not stop it or prevent it, but only make it more dangerous for those who choose it, and victimize & criminalize those who choose it.... this is the flaw of logic with anti-choice people

 

-don't generalize.

 

Why not? When you're talking about half the population of the world, generalisations are kinda hard to avoid.

 

if you believe it is murder to kill a soldier from an enemy nation, yes, i suppose.