Wake Induced Lucid Dreaming

alcohol greatly interferes...makes it hard for me to get there
while opiates, on the other hand, act the complete oppositely.
Relayer has intense experiences with opiates and sleep paralysis.
I've worked with poppy pods a bit and can say they make it very easy to access these realms...I don't even need to try.

 

Very intense, so intense that they make me doubt my own sanity and my position in reality. The best way to describe it, it's like waking up from a dream, going about your day, then something seems just a little bit *off*, and I wake up in bed again, this happens about 4 or 5 times in a row and when I finally do wake up for real, I have a strong doubt that it is reality instead of another dream, and an intense fear that my mind has gone off the deep end.

 

hmmm... that sounds frightening and appealing.

I had a question about the "visions" before you enter sleep paralysis. Could you describe them in more detail? This is the one aspect of WILDs that I don't think I've learned to open up yet. Are they more of "perceived" or "subconscious" images, or do they get to the point where they may as well be right in front of you? Do they hang there, or do they come and go quickly?

Thank you, and I blame my failure today on the alcohol I consumed last night

 

Well personally, I hear people talking...I hear gurgling noises, strange universal sounds. Windy whisps and synthesized textures. Music gets extremely vivid in my head...I can conduct entire bands/symphonies with any instrument I want. This is one of my favorite things to do. This gets more vivid the deeper I go, and when I've drank ayahuasca WOW this ability is just a cosmic orgasmic experience. I see humans and I often wonder if I'm really seeing them do these things, or if it's all made up. Remote viewing intrigues me because I think I've done it but...I can't be sure.
Waves roll through me, bubbles pop, I see lots of hypnagogic geometry and then on top of all that there's all the memories from the past.
I watch this all like I'm sitting in a movie theatre.
They come, and go, and I just wait. I keep myself "awake" by thinking, but I breathe deeply, slowly...I go down to four breaths per minute sometimes even less...this is important if you want to lower your brain frequency.

And then when you feel it coming on, BOOM

That's when the visions become absolutely mind boggling.

I once found myself in a void where I drew a door and opened it (felt the handle and everything) and found myself in a futuristic plant kingdom.

Anyway, hope that helps

 

Same for me, half the time. Half the time it's purely psychedelic and confusing. The other half, it is totally the same as regular, sober reality. That's why I get so scared, because I can never tell if Im going to wake up yet again, or if I am *really* awake. This is beyond strange and Ive never heard of anyone else experiencing this, at least not as frequently as I am.
This direction of sleep paralysis came about after my first true time loop from magic mushrooms by the way, when I couldnt figure out if I was on the floor *dreaming* my trip and was going to snap out of it, or if I was actually living my experience.

 

And really, it is both. At first I thought this was like my soul being projected, or duplicating my phsyical presence (as Yogananda and Carlos Castaneda talk about), but no, this takes place entirely in my mind. It's fucking nuts

 

About a month ago I dreamt I went into a bathroom...
I don't know how it happened, but it was as if my soul was reaching around my body
and I was having sex with myself. I ended up splitting into two entirely separate entities and I could switch between them. I was in front of a mirror, and I could see both of myselves...I know it's kind of strange, I'm not even bisexual, but I have to admit it was fucking amazing. Sex magick? O_O

Anyway, I really want to explore this ability. Not so much the sex, but the duplication.

 

I believe I've duplicated before, astral projectiion through the ether, its more than definitley possible. Too many weird things to be coincedence. But these rewaking experiences I've been having, involved multiple people who are asleep without a doubt.

 

This actually happens to me as well, John. Although I have to say, and not to sound all new agey and shit, it only happens when I'm operating some sort of higher state of awareness.

I've found that the type of dreams I have are a direct reflection on what state of consciousness I'm going through at the time. When at a higher state, I'm always lucid, and it's almost like I never sleep because I'm constantly aware of myself at all times. These dreams usually involve some sort of realization about reality, as pretentious as that sounds. When in a "slump" of sorts (like lately), I'm just in the stereotypical dream world that involves random assortments of my memories. An interesting note is that when I wake from my "higher" dreams, the top of my head feels like it's being exposed to some extreme force of energy and bliss. I never understood what this was until I ran across the chakra system, and my best guess is that it has something to do with my crown chakra. But I'm really only an amatuer at this kind of stuff, so I really have no clue.

As for why I fluctuate between the two, I can't say. But I can definatly relate to the false awakening that leads to a false awakening that leads to a false awakening, all occuring within an extremely sober mind that is operating with clarity, to the point that it's impossible to differentiate between dream and reality. This also usually ends up in sleep paralysis for me.

 

My man :cheers2:
Do you ever get it, where it seems all normal and shit, and then something just goes wrong and you realize your dreaming, and then you wake up again, into the same room, and then again and again and so on?

 

Yes that's exactly how it happens to me too. I never wake up in a room though, I always wake up "in my bed", and I really think I'm awake, so I just go about my business like I'm really awake.

What's scary is there is no time limit to this. I could live like a whole day before I realize that it's all a dream.

There is always something that goes wrong, but it's always VERY subtle. Like once I got ready, took a shower, fixed my bookbag, and was driving to school and was almost all the way there, when I realized there were no keys in the ignition.

Then there is always that moment where you question things "How can I have been driving all this time if I don't have my keys?" And then reality falls apart and you fling your sheets off of you and do it all again, only to eventually realize you are just in another dream.

crazy shit, man.

 

Exactly the same for me. And by room, I meant bedroom, in the bed, yea.
Im going to call you tonight after the Phillies game

 

Alright man sounds good.

My mom just flew out to Oklahoma b/c my sister is having her first kid. I would have went with her but I can't miss that much school, so I've got the house all to myself for like two weeks :cheers2:

 

well you know what that means

 

haha yessss

I'll be turning wine into water.

 

And you know what THAT means!
Sunday, Oct 26 1:00pm ET, Philadelphia vs. Atlanta
Does this call for a drunken AIM session so I can laugh at you in real time every touch down?

 

haha!

sounds good dude.

You aint gonna be doing a whole lot of laughing though.

 

Ppppffffff we'll see.

 

Damn, this blows

I haven't been able to wild for a long time. I actually just don't know why. Does that mean I'm more stressed out or something? There was activity going on in the room this morning (roommate) but that shouldn't distract me.

I just don't understand how easy it was at first, and how now it is becoming progressively harder

Maybe it was because of the noise outside, and knowing that I only had an hour before I had to get up and get ready for class. Whatever is was, I'm getting angry for not being able to do this... my brain is not being very responsive to my interests.

For about ten seconds it felt like I was almost there, but then I started getting out of breathe or something?? I suppose there was just something about today that really made it impossible to do. I'll try again later, but I'm really missing those wilds

 

Several failed attempts this week but I'm not giving up. What better escape from the daily grind than to master lucid dreaming?