Vegan jails??

Yeah, if I don't eat eggs or cheese, I don't have any energy at all. I personally think the vegan diet isn't all that healthy, but my hat's off to anyone that can do it. People that want to be vegan in jail are in for a real shock-in the jails in this part of the country, people are lucky to get enough food to keep them from starving to death. Good luck.

 

I agree, I often wonder how truly healthy a strictly vegan diet is, but I don't know enough about it to really say a whole lot. I just know that there are a lot of things you can't eat that I like!

And I don't think prisoners should be "treated" to a diet of their personal choice, they're in prison to be punished, not rewarded. Like my 6 year old son loves to say "you get what you get and you don't throw a fit!"

 

a fully vegan diet can be EXTREMLY healthy! that said... a CHEAP vegan diet.... ehhh prolly not very healthy.

 

See this is the problem. I agree prisoners THAT ACTUALLY DESERVE TO BE THERE should have no rights. Everyone here is assuming that all inmates are violent beasts who are in there for rape and murder. Wrong. Half of the people in US prisons are there for non violent crimes (read: arbritrary law, not moral law), mostly non violent drug crimes.

Stripping the rights of a person, turns them into property of the state, a slave. Don't believe me? Start doing research into the inequaties in our criminal justice system, the drug war, and prison labor.

The prison system is a huge, profit-driven, machine of humanity destruction. The US has 5% of the worlds population, and 25% of the worlds prisoners. We have more prisoners than any other industrialized nation, including China, a communist country with 4 times our population.

Even the hippies are all pro-prison and pro-overreaching government these days.

 

there's a similar story here in canada... tre arrow, an american activist has been in jail here for a couple of years. he's a vegan. anyways, he went on a hunger strike and finally the jail agreed to accommodate his dietary needs.

http://www3.telus.net/public/trearrow/index.html

 

Well one can expect compassion from the Canadian government..

 

I highly doubt that most of the people in prison were simply caught smoking pot....

If someone has done something severe enough to get real prison time (I'm not talking about sitting in the drunk tank overnight) then it must have been worth it to them. As adults we are responsible for our actions. We know when we are breaking the law, whether we think the law is stupid or not doesn't matter.

 

Do you consider growing nontoxic plants that make people relaxed severe? That warrants several years of being locked in a cage, along with beatings, shankings, and rapings?

How about all the people that "were simply caught smoking pot", and happened to have a scale which they use to weigh their purchase to make sure they don't get ripped off. Those people are sitting in prison on distribution charges.

How about a 55 year sentence in a federal prison for selling a couple ounces?

Usually poorer people use crack as opposed to cocaine, which is often used by rich, white people. 5 grams of crack is 5 years, while it takes 200 grams of cocaine to get 5 years.

daisy, your post sounds hypocritical. Don't tell me you have never broken a law. Drug laws are more arbritrary than traffic laws. Breaking traffic laws, which I am sure you have done many times, endangers others and can kill them easily. But, nobody goes to prison for reckless driving, or even hurting others on the road. How is sitting on your couch getting blazed more harmful to society than that?

I just read something interesting. In the Czech Republic, their arrest rate for drugs is 1 in 100,000. Here, it is 585 out of 100,000. Their robbery rate is 2 per 100,000, while ours is 148.9 per 100,000.

 

I'm sure I've broken several laws....but I am not sitting in prison expecting to be treated like a princess either...

 

A vegan diet needs to be supplemented with B12, it is not available by any other source than animal foods. Some think "sea vegetables" supply B12, but many dieticians and researchers say the B 12 in sea vegetables is not bioavailable to humans. Withouth B12, you get a very severe type of anemia, which can be expensive to treat, and if not treated promptly, will result in permanant damage. Also, even IF sea veggies were a source of B12 (and they probably aren't) some people are allergic to them. If I eat them (or any iodine containing food,) I get anaphylactic allergy and die.


There are theories about different body types, and that some people really need animal protein, others do fine on a vegan diet and others can get by with a less restrictive veg diet, which contains eggs and/or dairy.

Maybe have him pay for the extra expense of the food.

Prisons usually get food as cheaply as possible. I can imagine a vegan prison where the main food is Ramen Noodles and toast.