Vegan breastfed baby taken from parents!

They were charged with resisting arrest, which they did. The woman continued to yell at the officers and keep her hands away from the cuffs. As far as I know, that is resisting arrest, and it is illegal.

Your child has a problem and you refuse to get help for him? What kind of sick people are they. They WERE endangering the life of their child. I'm sure a little bit of sugar and artificial coloring would not kill him, otherwise half of the world would be dropping dead right now.

What this petition is asking you to do is to stop the police from doing their job. When you are let into a place, you do not need a warant. The officers were reprimanded for the apartment, but the mother's house they were let in.

I'm sure that the child is living a more healthy life now that he is away from parents who would not even allow him to take a tylonel.

 

Hey this is a multiple posting. Not allowed! It is already in the parenting forum.

 

I think you misunderstand me... Eating meat is the normal diet in the west. We almost all eat it, and are healthy. Millions of babies every day eat meat and do well on it. Very very few (are there even any medically documented cases?) have a vegan diet. Therefore, to impose your vegan diet on a child is taking a dramatic step. Why take that step? Why not just present the issues to the child when he's old enough to understand, then let him make his own mind up?

 

Or, why not raise your children on a healthful vegan/vegetarian diet, present the issues to them as they grow, and let them decide for themselves when they're old enough. This is what we're doing with our two extremely healthy daughters.

There are millions of vegans/vegetarians in the world raising healthy children on vegan/vegetarian diets. Just as there are millions of omnivores raising healthy children on omnivore diets.

Thanks for the links JazzMama. The whole case seems very sad, but I don't think it's a cut-and-dry, black-and-white case. Both sides are handling this badly, and the child is suffering as a result.

 

I think the parents were doing just that, if you look at it from a different viewpoint. Your parents raised you on meat because thats what they ate and you were allowed to choose once you got old enough to understand. This child's parents raised him vegan because thats how they ate, and I'm sure if he wanted to eat meat when he grew older, they would be disapointed, but wouldnt force him against it. You're saying the parents should be feeding the child from a different opinion of whats right than their own. Who would honestly subject their child to something they didn't view as the best for them?

 

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This child's parents raised him vegan because thats how they ate, and I'm sure if he wanted to eat meat when he grew older, they would be disapointed, but wouldnt force him against it. You're saying the parents should be feeding the child from a different opinion of whats right than their own. Who would honestly subject their child to something they didn't view as the best for them?
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To my mind, one of the things that is incumbent on people who consciously adopt "alternative" lifestyles and diets for whatever reason is to realize that their choice only applies to them. E.g. I don't think haircuts, washing, changing clothes &c. is really necessary in life, so I do those things very rarely (if at all). However, I wouldn't stop my child from doing those things.

My point is that when you have a helpless child in your care, the best thing is the safest thing, and the safest thing is the thing that the most amount of people do. Not a good way to live your life as an adult, but a pretty safe bet for a mewling infant. People shouldn't go around imposing what they think is right on others. Just because I think physical injury is an illusion doesn't mean I can beat my kids...

 

Well, yes. What these people were eating was NOT a regular, healthy veg*n diet. In my training, we always put completely vegan pregnant and breastfeeding mothers on B12 supps,(and many of them, decide on their own to eat a small quaitity of B 12 containing food, because they want what is best for their babies) because we don't want babies getting B 12 deficiency (and the sea veggie supplements don't seem to help the problem, it has to be regular B12.) This baby was on a diet of nothing but a small quantity of raw fruits and vegs and her milk, which, after several years of no B12, was not a proper source of this much needed nutrient. This is not an appropriate diet for a growing baby. There are plenty of veg*an parents who provide wonderful, nutritionally complete diet for their children, but from the reports and what I know about infant nutritional needs, these people were not doing this.

Kids can and do die of B 12 deficency and they are much more susseptable to it hitting harder and more quickly than adults. An adult may choose a raw food diet for himself, but they are not appropriate for infants.

I have nothing but respect for both breastfeeding mothers AND veg*ns,(amny of my breastfeeding clients are veg*ns) but there is some things an infant needs. And if they don't get them, permanent damage can occur. There was a death in NZ last year from a similar case. It isn't worth a child dying. PLENTY of veg*n parents provide great diets for their children and themselves, but this particular couple was putting their already malnourshed child at risk for permanent damage and even death.

 

Exactly. I think any objective medical person would agree with this view. These people are like scientologists who won't let their kids have blood transfusions.

 

"the safest thing is the thing the most amount of people do." Anybody home jim w??? MOST Americans are suffering from heart disease, obesity, malnourishment etc. MOST Americans eat WAY to much fastfood. Hell yeah I'm taking a "dramatic step"! I'm going to feed my baby in the most healthful way possible! If more people took your advice to "realize that their choice applies only to them" and fed their kids healthfully, we wouldn't have so many malnourished, obese children! You can't beat your kids, but you CAN feed them "food" that will slowly poison them to death. It's O.K. though! Everybody ELSE is doing it!

 

I realize I sounded really bitchy in that last post. Apologies, didn't mean to come off that way! Need to learn to make my point less aggressively!