Using LSD to overcome social anxiety/gain confidence/kill insecurity?

Discussion in 'LSD - Acid Trips' started by NoxNoctum, Jul 4, 2009.

  1. hawaiiankine

    hawaiiankine Senior Member

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    to more drugs! :cheers2:

    pass me another anti depressant drug. :D
     
  2. Peter Popper

    Peter Popper Tripper

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    take this into consideration.

    ummm hunter s. thompson. the guy we all love, the guy who made fear and loathing. the journalist.

    after he did acid a couple times, he had amazing writing, different to what anyone had seen.
    he kept taking acid trying to chase the dream, have better writing.
    but it didnt happen, then the brain damage occurs.
    his writing got slowly worse.
    kinda like mine. lol

    drugs only cause brain damage.
     
  3. itsallgood

    itsallgood Senior Member

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    Or was it that age caught up with him?....Different drugs, different reactions different situations bro...A single drug would have no effect on somebody if taken in a different enviorment and different mental conditions from that of a different person with a different enviorment and different mental conditions...From what i know, certain drugs can either make or break, in hunter s thompsons case, it obviously made him...Wether his writings got worse or better i wouldnt blame whole heartdly on the drugs...Grew out of his style...Thats like saying the only reason he was writing the way he did was because of his usage, not trure, some kind of linkage could be made but i would go with the fact drugs made his writing alot more interesting...His style did not change, his experiences did though which is in part of why his writings did.

    Brain Damage may be a little over-exageration of a term for the after effects of drugs use...Altered thinking?yes, brain damage, no.

    I tried to stay as clear as possible lol
     
  4. itsallgood

    itsallgood Senior Member

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    AND HELL YEAH...I would not mind some anti-depressants right now lmao
     
  5. Peter Popper

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    lol anti-depressants arent exactly fun to be on.

    unless u mean "anti-depressants" drugs like xtc, and speed. lol sure they will make anyone happy.

    drugs sure do take their tole.

    i remember when i was in my peak acid usage.
    i couldnt barely remember what somone was talking to me about at that moment. id be so out of it, id be like oh, uh oh yeah, have no idea what was happenin.
    its pretty sad not even being able to hold up a conversation, listen to sombody and have to apologise cause u had no idea what they were saying. when it just goes straight over ur head.

    im pretty damn sure drugs cause braindamage, and concentration problems, memory loss. all sorts of shit.
    dont pretend and blame it all on other things. thats called being naive.
     
  6. PB_Smith

    PB_Smith Huh? What? Who, me?

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    Being naive is making blanket statements about drugs.
    Be specific, do some research, know what you are actually taking, know what you are talking about.
    You say at the peak of your acid usage you had problems, what was your peak? How much were you using and for how long ? Was LSD the only substance you were using?

    LSD, Psylocibin, and Mescaline are the safest class of drugs used by humans physiologically speaking. I can say that with a certainty due to the enormous amount of research that has been done, not based on my own experiences as your statements seem to be. Too many references to link here, search it out for yourself.
    MDMA has been shown to cause long term changes to the brain and neurotransmitters;
    http://www.erowid.org/chemicals/mdma/mdma_neurotoxicity1.shtml
    Maybe your problems are related to your abuse of MDMA and not LSD.
    My point is you are making broad generalizations without showing any supporting documentation or going into specifics about which drugs cause damage.

    As far as your remarks about H.S.Thompson, did you ever consider that fact that he used/abused numerous substances and drank a lot of alcohol could be contributing factors to a decline in his writing?

    Maybe your personal issues aren't related to drugs but your pretending and blaming the drugs?

    Final thought, there is a vast difference between using and utilizing drugs and abusing them. From your statements I make the assumption that your use was more abuse and that contributed to the state you now find yourself in. If that is the case maybe you have an addictive personality and should be cautious of your use of the gym and pussy as well.
     
  7. itsallgood

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    after usagage on a dI never said i wouldnt blame any after affects drug...I actually agreed, exceppt i used a much more positve term than brain damage lol, but i never thought of the brain damage, so Peter Popper dude might be right
     
  8. Peter Popper

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    ok then Mr. smartass, ur sticking up for ur drug usage like it was ur girlfriend.

    iv done a range of drugs and i can say lsd fried my memory and concentration the most.

    lsd is a magical myrical trip. iv been to heaven on lsd. iv had colours shooting up my arms. iv had great times. iv had bad times, dead bodies next to me, dead bodies on the bonnet of the car, freakishly scary atmoshpers and bushes.

    but its all just a trip, and the shit fries ur mind, and can cause psychotic reactions.
     
  9. strat

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    Albert Hoffman microdosed for decades... Dude lived to be 102 and he was a genius... And lsd fries what now?
     
  10. hawaiiankine

    hawaiiankine Senior Member

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    You are sharing your experience. Valid points. Generalized statement like drugs cause brain damage are not valid points.

    When you start to project your ideas and feelings onto others then you lose credibility.

    Sharing what drugs do to you is great.

    Newsflash: Not everyone responds like you do to drugs.

    I should know. :D
     
  11. AcidKid420

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    1. MDMA and Speed are not antidepressants, they're stimulants.
    2. Your lack of ability to concentrate on the drug is a normal effect. If you are experiencing it while NOT on the drug, youve got yourself some ADD, so go pick up some Adderoll.
    3. So someone on a web forum believes drugs cause brain damage. The FACTS behind that statement are extremely underwhelming.

    Congradulations on your lack of general knowledge and Intuition.
    :cheers2:
     
  12. PB_Smith

    PB_Smith Huh? What? Who, me?

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    I'm not sticking up for drug usage, I'm just sticking up for getting the facts and not bullshit. I'm actually opposed to a lot of drugs, but because of the FACTS of what they do more than the MYTHS of what they do.

    LSD can cause latent psychoses to emerge, that's what happened with Syd Barret from Pink Floyd, but John Lennon also stated that he spent months at a time on LSD. One lost it and one remained a musical genius. That is the real danger in these substances, the psychological effects can be dangerous, but physically they are some of the safest substances known, hell sugar does more physical harm than LSD.

    I've done a range of drugs too my friend, most of which before you were born, and I have had a few friends go off the deep end as a result of drug use. But not a single person I know of has ever had any physical damage done by LSD, Mescaline or shrooms. You are saying it fried your brain and causes brain damage, you are wrong on that point plain and simple. That is why I said maybe it was the MDMA that caused physical damage to your nervous system and not LSD and posted a link to check out that possibility.

    Dude if you can post shit on these forums then you posses the tools and skills required to research this shit yourself and get the FACTS instead of opinions based on your personal experience.
    I wish that more people that come to this forum would spend some of their online time researching these chemicals rather than coming here and asking questions and getting answers like the gems you've served up. I really am astonished at some of the questions in this forum when LSD is the most researched and written about psychedelic drug known.

    and for gods sake get a fucking spell checker and learn some basic English grammar so your posts are easier understand.
    Fucking decline of the education system in this country is appalling, I guess where ever your from as well! :mad:
     
  13. FreshDacre

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    I don't believe it really "fries" your mind, i don't believe that it has no negative effects though. I know people who have done so much lsd that they won't even notice that you are talking to them right away. He would start talking and then forget what he was saying in about 10 seconds. So abuse of lsd definately has negative outcomes. I have done a good amount of it, and i feel like my concentration is not as good. Thats why i am not messin with it any more because i want to be more "on top of it".
    Some drugs do more damage to your brain than others. The point is, they all do "something" to your brain, and if you can't deal with that then its your fault for gettn into it.
     
  14. Peter Popper

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    fuck u all lol.

    and i go to university, studing criminology, gonna be a cop/fed.

    personal experiences from myself and many friends are faily good indications of what somthing does to you.

    and i have done plenty research on lsd and other drugs. i come to the conclusion based not only on my own personal experiences, but based on my friends and that of the internet.

    i know very well what lsd can do.

    just because it doesnt pychiscally harm ur body, doesnt mean its not frying ur mind.

    can u honestly say that drugs u have taken have not had any effect whatsoever on ur memory or other skills?

    iv been posting on this forum for years, in my peak acid usage, my words wear very hard to read. even still now, my mind is probably distorted and my words hard to read.

    i remember this guy from nimbin who had done loads of acid, reading this book titled "disordered minds". he was pretty loopy.

    the acid trip can be amazing dont get me wrong. im saying that it takes a strong mind to be aware that its all just a trip. not to get too carried away with it all. start questioning reality and shit too much. fall down the rabbit whole. all of u have clearly gone down the rabbit whole.
    he says, "lsd is soo amazing, there could never be anything bad about lsd, it did this for me, it did that for me' lol

    it takes a very strong mind.
     
  15. pr0ne420

    pr0ne420 Senior Member

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    Dude Im really happy that your happy. I remember your old posts man, you were not in a good place. You are happy right?
     
  16. PB_Smith

    PB_Smith Huh? What? Who, me?

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    So now it's "fuck you all" because some of us have called you on the remarks you have made about LSD causing brain damage ?

    Then what do you mean by "it fries your mind" ?
    You see the implication in that statement is that it causes some type of neurological damage. No one on this forum as far as I have seen has said that LSD is completely benign and poses no risk whatsoever. Quite the contrary, most of the responsible folks here acknowledge the dangers inherent in using these substances as far as a persons psyche is concerned. But that is not what you have been saying, you flat out said it causes brain damage.

    The biggest detrimental effect I have from my drug use has without a doubt been from smoking weed, not psychedelics. When I used acid every day or two many years ago yeah my thought process's were a little whacked, but not permanently. I also notice that if I've been smoking weed a lot that my thought process's are altered. I don't really notice how much until I've stopped for about a month or so.

    Can you honestly say that it was the LSD that fried your brain and not the other drugs you have used?

    That's one of the problems, I'll wager there isn't anyone posting in this forum that has only used LSD and is not a poly drug user, I know I was/am. I think the few dozen times I did PCP did far more neurological damage than the few hundred times I have taken LSD. So to find a control group of people who only take LSD is almost impossible.

    I know I haven't fallen down the rabbit hole. As a matter of fact I'm probably one of the more pragmatic posters in this forum. My feet are very firmly planted in this reality, I'm just aware that there is a whole lot more to reality than meets the eye.
    Reality is composed of the world outside us and our minds and how those two interact. Reality between individuals is arrived at through mutual agreements of what is "real", consensus reality.

    Maybe you weren't ready for the "shake-up" of what comprises reality that LSD forces upon a person. Judging by the tone and dogmatic stand you seem to be taking about this topic even in the face of facts and evidence contrary to your beliefs I would say that you are too rigidly "rooted" in your concept of reality to be able to "let go" and experience LSD in the same manner as those whom you say have "gone down the rabbit hole".
    Certain personality types are not able to cope with the things LSD can do to our concepts of reality.

    You are right, it does take a very strong mind, not to fight and deny the LSD experiences, but rather to integrate them back into your daily life without going batshit crazy because your world has just been rocked to the core.
    I'd bet that most of your "good" trips were in the company of friends in party mode, but your worst were when you were alone or in a situation were something was not distracting you from the LSD experience.
    I may be completely wrong about that last statement, am I ?
     
  17. itsallgood

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    John lennon and lsd for a month, wow lmao....Like i said before, Altered thinking results from drug intake, brain damage = no.

    I agree with Pb Smith on this.

    And AcidKid420, Adderoll is supposed to have some profound effects when taken for studying shit in college...Iam thinking about trying picksome up this up coming week....Wish me luck
     
  18. FreshDacre

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    Ive found that life is more entertaining now that ive done lsd a bunch. Everything seems like a divine story that i'm in control of, before lsd i just felt like a boring human clone going on in repitivity every day. Now every minute has meaning to it. I just don't like how time sped up.
     
  19. Mr.Writer

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    funny how we who have 'gone down the rabbit hole' have had our lives improved by LSD and are not showing any "brain damage", while you who have with all your force "held on" and "remembered its just a trip" appear to be more fried than anyone else on this forum.

    Interesting. I wonder, when you apply for the FBI or whatever, and they ask you about your drug history, and offer you a position as a NARC, would you jump on the opportunity to shut down LSD production?

    Funny how you who 'knows best' and has acid all 'figured out' are the most dysfunctional and have nothing to show from your use of it except difficult to read posts and hazy logic.

    The poor craftsman blames his tool.
     
  20. strat

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    Ok dude. It's "just" a trip.
    BTW what does this imply? What is that supposed to mean?

    Because life is just a trip too.

    And you can have a great fucking time or it can be a drag. But it's up to you.
    (That's one of the many things I have since understood since psychedelics)
     

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