wow, old thread. But anyways, the Israelis were the first modern terrorist bombers. They demolished the King David Hotel in Jerusalem in their campaign of terror against both the British occupiers and the Arabs in an effort to gain a homeland. They drove out the British and then created a country based on a treaty that only the Jews, not the Arabs, ratified. Gosh, freaking Muslims getting all bitchy at getting thrown out of their homes. Didn't they know the Jews owned it hundreds of years ago? Geez, get over it.
palaeopeasant : Your history comes strait out of the old testament, which one may regard is a sexed up narrative of genocide and ethnic cleansing in palestine. Spare us the demonology & and the nationalism. the state of Israel has been conducting a brutal and relentless campaign against against the subject population,s of both the west bank and the Gaza strip for some years now. Prior to that these very populations which contain many refugees were of course driven out of there ancestral home's in present day Israel. The dirty work had to be done, and Ben-Gurian and associates did it in 1948 with cool and calculating efficiency. Even today it is being pursued with relentless zeal as is evident by the highly disspraportionate casualties suffered by the palestinian people at the hands of a very well armed IDF.
Man,I see how ignorant, inbred and downright stupid alot of the people that answered this thread are.And that also goes for the person(moron) that started this thread.The US supports Saudi Arabia much more than Israel for one.PALESTINIANS are the TERRORISTS of the world.I can say so much more,but you pathetic lot just are not worth the time.Go take some more drugs.Israel,along with many countries in Europe, Australia are the premier(top) nations of the world.
We support Israel because we love Israel. I know I do, and I'm not even Jewish. I am old enough to remember the Six Day War in 1967. Nearly everyone in the United States was delighted when Israel crushed the Arabs. I sure was. When the World Trade Center was destroyed Palestinians danced in the streets.
If the Palestinians don't like it they should move somewhere else. If the Arabs really cared about those people they would make it easy for them to move to their countries. The truth is, they usually try to keep them out. The Arabs hate the Jews because the Jews do everything so much better than they do. Hatred of Jews is the socialism of the gutter.
Say what? The Palestinians have been there longer than the modern zionist movement. They have family olive groves older than zionism. What you are suggesting is like asking the American Indian to go back over the arctic land bridge so us white folks can have the land. Its THEIR land. At least it was a 100 years ago. Jews and Palestinians got along pretty well until the zionist movement started. Since then, it has been the purpose of zionism to take the land by whatever means possible in order to expand the Jewish population to the point it would overtake the indigenous people that were then in place. These people don't want anybody but Jews in Israel. And they made great progress towards this goal with the help of a US population that only hears one side of the story. I intend to see they hear both sides. The faster Israel can be exposed for what it is, the faster it can face the consequences of it's actions. x
I think "xexon" should move and live with the Palestinians,seems he loves them so much.You'd probably last about a day there.And you along with your buddy "guy" are even more ignorant about this subject than I thought.And even worse than being ignorant you 2 are downright boring.Its way past time for the Palestinians to be shut-up, permanently.
You of course know, that what you are suggesting is against forum rules? It's as good as a death threat. x
I am glad that support for Israel is not a political issue in the United States. Whenever there is a presidential campaign the question is not, "Should we support Israel?" but "How best can we support Israel?"
During the Second World War the Palestinians supported Nazi Germany. During the Cold War they supported the Soviet Union. During the Gulf War they supported Saddam Hussein. When the World Trade Center was destroyed they danced in the street. Why should we care about those who hate us?
This is like asking why the American Indian feels so poorly towards the white man. Zionists served up ther fellow citizens to the nazis time and time again. http://www.counterpunch.org/brenner1223.html Saddam Hussein was once an American "friend". Look for the picture of Donald Rumsfeld shaking hands with him. We supplied him with arms in the Iran/Iraq war. http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/rumsfeld-saddam.jpg You, my friend, are a perfect example of someone conditioned by the media to go along with the neocon agenda. Their propaganda is the best in the world and you ate your fill. x
We supported both sides in the Iran Iraq War. We supported whichever side was losing. In doing so we encouraged two countries that were dangerous to us and Israel to fight each other. That was a clever strategy, and weakened both countries. The Neocons promoted the invasion of Iraq. A more intelligent policy would have been to achieve a clandestine alliance with Saddam Hussein against Al Quaeda. Al Quaeda was more of a threat to Saddam than to us. Saddam kept Al Quaeda out of Iraq. Unlike us Saddam understood Islamic fanatics and knew how to keep them under control. When he ruled Iraq there were no suicide bombers. For the forseeable future the Moslems are going to be in a lethal mood. Fortunately, we can usually find some to fight the ones who really hate us. Unfortunately, the War in Iraq unites Moslems against us. Also, the fact that the United States has not won the War in Iraq and is likely to lose encourages our Moslem enemies. America's blitzkrieg during the War in the Gulf terrified our enemies. Bush Sr. was a far better war leader than Bush Jr.
Who created the neocons? Mostly Jews. Zionism has shaped it into the face it has today. Neocons serve the zionist movement just like worker ants. They do most of the footwork and provide defense against attacks. Not attacks against America, but attacks against zionism itself. The US is used to protect the zionist nest. How nice of us to protect that which will someday be an abomination upon the earth. The first time I heard us called the "Great Satan", I knew it was true. x
"The less justified a man is in claiming excellence for his own self, the more ready he is to claim all excellence for his nation, his religion, his race or his holy cause." - Eric Hoffer The Jews do not need an alibi for their lack of achievement, because the lack does not exist. Even Adolf Hitler acknowledged the superior intelligence of the Jews. In Mein Kampf he wrote of the Jews, “the intellectual abilities were schooled in the course of centuries. Today the Jew is looked upon as ‘clever,’ and in a certain sense he has been so at all times.” In Mein Kampf Hitler acknowledged that he did not begin to hate the Jews until he failed in his efforts to become an artist or an architect. It was then that he needed to hate. In Mein Kampf Hitler also wrote, “The scanty fertility of a living space may instigate one race towards the highest achievements, while with another race, this may only become the cause for the most dire poverty and ultimate malnutrition with all its consequences. The inner disposition of the peoples is always decisive for the way in which outward influences work themselves out. What leads one people to starvation, trains the other for hard work.” He was not writing about the Israelis, but he might have been.
Unfortunately, the Jews haven't had the intelligence to throw out the zionist regime that controls Israel and threatens world peace. Intelligence does not equal wisdom. x
Israel "will somday be an abomination upon the earth?" How? Israel does not threaten the Arab world with annihilation. In Israel the Jews prove their superiority. Beneath their soil is neither oil nor gold. Above their soil is plenty of IQ power.