URGENT!! help me talk my friend down???

When I started losing touch with reality after taking far too many mushrooms, what helped was my one friend telling me what was really happening. She kept saying "you're in anthony's dorm, we're watching TV, you ARE HAVING A GOOD TIME" shit like that. Every so often they would ask me to tell them who was in the room or tell them what I was feelin.

A think an important part is to remind them that they have taken a drug and that it WILL STOP. They may not understand time (I know I didn't) but you have to remind them that eventually it will wear off. You might have to be fairly forceful about this point sometimes, they may not want to believe you.

Atmosphere of calm means external stimuli being calm. IE, don't have any of the Saw movies on. I was thinkin earlier today that it could be a good idea to put a kids show on, or have nothing going on at all. When I lost it, none of the people I was with knew ANYTHING about psychedelics except having watched me trip acid once and what I had told them shit's like, so the one kid called a kid he knew who had a lot of experience, he told told them to turn music off, not have anything freaky on the TV and to make sure that I didn't leave alone.

I'd say though that you shouldn't try to make it stop - going through a bad time is going to help them more than anything. You might want to remind them that they have to face this, that it will stop but that there's nothing anyone can do to make it stop sooner. It's almost more of a make sure they don't hurt themselves kinda thing.

I'd agree that experienced people can take that step back, but sometimes there are basic functions of the body that underlie a bad experience. For me, it wasn't so scary that nothing made sense and I was trippin my face off, it's that I was sick and couldn't tell if I was going to throw up. I can't explain how bad that made me feel, but put on top of that the sense that NOTHING makes sense...I was pretty scared. The hardhead part of me kept tellin myself that I had taken mushrooms and all that, that it would stop, but I had been taken into another place and time didn't exist so I didn't know when I was going to be better.

I guess the bottom line is make sure they don't hurt themselves, don't let them make phone calls if you know they might call their parents if their parents would be mad about it, do not leave them alone (even if they ask you to, check on them often), remind them of what they've done and tell them what's going on. Reassure them that they haven't done anything wrong, DO NOT be mad at them, let them know they haven't hurt anyone or themselves....but most of all BE CALM, because they will sense it and it will make them feel worse.

 

That is good advice neuronaut, but still i think my method is the easiest on the user. Just give them a fairly large dose of a benzodiazipine, preferably xanax. That will calm them down completey, and sometimes even inhance the visuals like in my case. Also it stops the mind fuckery. I guess thats because you're now calm.

 

I don't think that everyone has ready access to drugs like that. Sure you can probably find it on any college campus, but a lot of times you have to know the right people and/or catch them at the right time. I'm that works great, I just like to be prepared for when you can't take something like xanax.

 

I try and talk to them about philosophy or something deep, answer their questions etc. I tell them it will go away. I ask them what is wrong, and try to fix it. Being confident is very helpful. People on acid tend to feel how other people around them feel (have you ever noticed how two people on the same drug in the same place almost always feel the same way?). I talk to them about peace and love, and how it will all be ok. When I'm tripping and having a bad time, I say to myself "is this as bad as it can get? is this the worst that I can feel?" the answer is inevitably, no, and that makes me feel better (that having been said, I've never really freaked out to the point where the answer is "yes").

Trips are made up of set and setting. Changing these is the only way to help. Changing the set involves things like telling them it will end, telling them others have freaked out on acid as well, administering placebo drugs, talking about deep and interesting things, asking them about their problem. Changing setting is pretty obvious, and has been talked about already. Give them a calm and relaxing environment with not too much stimulation. Outdoors and nature are nice. Music is very helpful as well.

 

I have. I lost concept of reality, time, friendship, etc, couldn't tell how hard I was tripping (because I didn't know what was supposed to be real) PLUS I was sick from having had too many mushrooms. I could still SEE the room I was in, and I could say where I was with some concentration, but I could barely name my friends and was having a really hard time deciding things. Funny thing the power of suggestion though, at certain points a friend of mine would tell me I was having a good time, that I had been laughing before and so on...so for a few minutes after that I'd be mostly fine, until I lost control again.

Like uplink said, everyone else's mood will effect you in a very big way, so if you're trying to talk them down or comfort them don't be angry, upset, scared, or anything like that.

 

your friend is very lucky to have had someone like you to help, just knowing that you were there and would keep him safe probably made all the difference in the world, good job

 

ask him if he wants to see the ugliest thing in the world, then put a mirror in front of his face

 

you should go into tripping knowing that a bad trip might happen, also its best to have good expectations... a good mindset always helps before a trip.. i found out as much as possible about what shrooms/acid were gonna do to me before i took them
i love having a 'mom' to take care of anyone while theyre on a trip!

 

uplink, i really have experienced the same mood/connection to other trippers. i can think of many instances of this feeling.

 

bad trip only happens in sufferer's head.... i can no imagine how normal, strong minded, positive person can have one... he should be away from all distructions no matter what they are, enjoying inner peace and trip inside his head.... Only stupid ppl ahve it, or under amazingly tough circumstances, or with super morons who ruin everything but again its ur perception of it.

 

a good video done by MAPS called 'Working with difficult psychedelic experiences'...

http://www.maps.org/wwpe_vid

 

Perhaps you might want to run out and get some vit. B3. Vit B3 is supposed to take a person out of and acid trip. Effects will not work instantly but the comming down will be triggered. I had a bad trip once and I made sure every time after to have a few B3 tablets around. Amount wise, I took 2 then nearing then end took another to get it all out of my system.

 

I'm glad to see the situation got under control.
I've had far worse trips on (in some cases) small amounts of shrooms than acid, and I've munched tab upon tab of 'cid in an evening.
Come to think of it; the only bad trip I've ever encountered on acid was when I took it thinking I had nothing to do the next day, then about 3 hours later I was re-informed (obviously I forgot) of an appointment with a 'New Deal' (job centre course) hour long introduction at 9am the following morning!!!
Well, the worry level was high; mainly towards how I'd look, act and talk! But somehow, I winged it, and was complimented on bein a 'good natured, keen and enthusiastic bloke'. Bwaaaar!

 

this has been up for so long.... 6,500+ views, werd

 

PsyGrunge, you have a dope SIG

 

man theres a group of people out there, i'm not intirely sure exactly what group, but whenever they trip and someone freaks out they just knock 'em out man!!!! like literally, physically hurting them and knocking them lights out!!!!!

 

Just keep reminding him he is gonna die a slow and painful death and that your gonna kill his family afterwards

 

i think beautiful things are the best way to ease a bad trip. when most people have bad trips, its because theyre fighting the effects of the drug instead of going with it. sunrises are nice on acid, they make you actually hope the feeling you have doesnt go away. other tips:
1. alcohol in small doses can help you relax. in large doses while tripping though it can make you dangerous...
2. liquid nicotine was used years ago to curb bad trips. since then it has been found to numb and degenerate some parts of the brain involved in dream intensity (or possibly just remembering a dreams intesity). either way, try keeping nicotine gum or a can of skoal around while tripping with someone prone to freakouts. it can come in useful.

 

its called the psychedelic experience and its by timothy leary

 

lsd is amazing