UPDATE: JULIAN ASSANGE Freed!

Discussion in 'Latest Hip News Stories' started by skip, Nov 22, 2010.

  1. stinkfoot

    stinkfoot truth

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    I think if we construct a way of life based more on local economics with bartering as a centerpiece- SEVERELY limiting our use of currency then the corporations would feel the effects as well. I increasingly believe that it is big banking that is at the center of this. Governments are the puppets... though their policies are akin to treason as the concept of sovereignty becomes more and more imaginary.

    Unfortunately, most people are easily placated- particularly if they are "softened" with imminent threats of dire economic peril- whether or not those threats are manufactured as a tool of manipulation. To cure that what is needed is a total, global economic collapse where governments, bereft of resources to maintain infrastructure and illusion of comfort must maintain order by force.... and there is no mass media to favorably spin the deeds in the minds of the people.

    Anything short of that enables the game to continue... you are quite correct there- if I am correct in interpreting your post.
     
  2. stinkfoot

    stinkfoot truth

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    Money is a gateway drug and governments are the pushers- acting on behalf of the banks.
     
  3. skip

    skip Founder Administrator

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    We must not forget that Pvt. Bradley Manning is also being held prisoner! He is the man who downloaded all the information that Wikileaks is releasing. He is facing a huge prison term if convicted.

    Here's an article all about Bradley Manning...
    http://thislandpress.com/09/23/2010/private-manning-and-the-making-of-wikileaks-2/

    Ironically, Bradley Manning is from the same town as Karen Silkwood, another famous whistleblower. The movie Silkwood told the story with Meryl Streep in the title role.
     
  4. Thank you whoever did my avatar!!!!!
     
  5. antithesis

    antithesis Hello

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    So even if he did rape those women you all think he is just wonderful? Really?
     
  6. McLeodGanja

    McLeodGanja Banned

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    You don't find the timing of all this a tad untoward?
     
  7. Meliai

    Meliai Members

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    you think the rape charges are true?

    I just find it all a little odd....
     
  8. skip

    skip Founder Administrator

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    He didn't rape them. It was consensual, even the women admit that. It's all because in one case the condom broke and then she didn't want sex, and I guess in the other case, he just didn't have a condom.

    So Interpol now issues arrest warrants for unprotected sex?

    Two women, who don't know each other report a similar incident TO THE POLICE involving Assange, at nearly the same time, with the same story...

    Right at the time he does his big release of the Iraq War docs.

    No, that's not fishy at ALL!!!

    I've never heard a rape allegation that revolves around whether a condom was used or not. If this isn't a CIA hit job, I don't know what is.

    My guess is the two women are undercover CIA operatives. They were supposedly "helping" Assange with his work. That's because the CIA and FBI always place operatives as part of COINTELPRO which has been reactivated BTW... So there are ppl on the inside watching groups like wikileaks and ready to defame and remove from power the leaders of such organizations.

    NOTHING HAS CHANGED SINCE THE 1960s. IT'S STILL DIRTY TRICKS AS USUAL.

    I really hope these accusations blow up in their faces!
     
  9. ChronicTom

    ChronicTom Banned

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    Seems I don't want to distract things here, I made a post about that tom guy and his farm over here;

    http://www.hipforums.com/newforums/showpost.php?p=6645785&postcount=22

    I'd say you were pretty close to what I meant... lol

    Any one government or bank, or institution failing wouldn't do a damn thing.

    And it can't be any form of armed rebellion if any think I mean that. The only way there will be a change that means anything, is if each of us, as INDIVIDUALS, stand up and say, this is enough, we don't want to live like this anymore.

    There was more that I deleted (a lot actually)... I have to let my mind tumble for a while I think...


    Money should be nothing other then just grease for trade. The problem is that it was used as a weapon of oppression and given a life and value of it's own. That is the part that needs to be dealt with.
     
  10. McLeodGanja

    McLeodGanja Banned

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    I heard the charges were filed against him months ago, and that he has been trying to clear his name ever since.
     
  11. lunarverse

    lunarverse The Living End

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    I'm not trying to trivialize rape, but whether or not he did rape women, the issue here is the threat to our freedom of press, speech and information, and the free sharing of that information. Especially if it's information that can shed light upon the dark dealings of the seemingly united government of the world.
     
  12. wa bluska wica

    wa bluska wica Pedestrian

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  13. Mr. Frankenstein

    Mr. Frankenstein Malice...in Sunderland

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    Britain arrested General Pinochet on an international arrest warrent, issued by a Spanish judge, for human rights violations including 94 counts of torture of Spanish citizens, the 1975 assassination of Spanish diplomat Carmelo Soria, and one count of conspiracy to commit torture.

    Was he sent to face trial in Spain ? No, the British government allowed him to return home.

    Be interesting to see if history repeats itself here...
     
  14. wa bluska wica

    wa bluska wica Pedestrian

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    the sex guy is safely in jail

    the torturers and murderers of millions of people are still running the world

    as well as the corporations that profited from the torture and murder

    [big sigh of relief, eh? :hide:]
     
  15. walsh

    walsh Senior Member

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    But in that sense, it is trivializing rape. Would we be interested in this case if it involved someone else? It's only because of the connections with those other matters, that people are calling for justice, whereas if this happened to a normal person, if governments acted this way on any other day to any other person, no-one would notice. The rape allegations alone are not sparking the public hysteria.
     
  16. SpacemanSpiff

    SpacemanSpiff Visitor

    oh my God these avatars are driving me insane :willy_nilly:
     
  17. daisymae

    daisymae Senior Member

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    I don't like them either. Earlier, I thought Chronic Tom was Lunarverse.

    It seemed like the world had gone crazy...:D
     
  18. Plant_Head

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    This is kind of irrelevant and relevant at the same time. This is a significant situation that speaks volumes about Government relations with their peoples across the world. To be honest I feel stupid caring so much about it now, knowing that we all previously knew there were so many things the government is with holding from the public. Obviously, "for the people, by the people", is so incorrect these days. However, is there not excessive fear aroused from this? Could it be blinding to better solutions? Possibly.

    We live in a new day and age, with new world relations, and more information available than ever. All information should be available but should we really seek sovereignty in it's total meaning. We have a world that is attempting to work together, and there are good people out there thinking strongly about things like Sustainability. An earth with Global wide trade and relations doesn't seem like a bad things, but an imbalance between the people and the Government threatens success in such endeavors, and poses a bigger threat to have a reversed equally as oppressive effect with an interconnected world that is run by the dishonest. So to me at least, the fight is not for stronger divisions, and for people to keep in their place, and only think locally but to ensure that the direction that the world is going in is secure from injustice, because injustice in such a system threatens peace more so than ever before. I have no opposition to local and community supported way of life (I am serious about my education in Sustainable Agriculture for local reasons), but with such advancements of the world in the recent past we have to be willing to work in tune on a much wider scale. That's why I think a good idea for agriculture students, is to offer the expansion of knowledge and methods in places far away that more than deserve to keep up.
     
  19. deleted

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    maybe he should call Big Ben Roethlisberger's attorney...
     
  20. Monkey Boy

    Monkey Boy Senior Member

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    I looked on my profile page and there were 5-6 of him staring back at me from my friends list. It's a kinda creepy.
     

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