Understanding Spiritual Darkness

God is beyond time and constantly filled with the bliss of fulfilment. There are no others, nothing outside God. Thus there is no question of another's pain or pleasure. That is only an illusion.

God is not other than us. God cannot possibly sacrifice, since infinite can never become anything less than infinity.

 

You are completely unaware of reality. Tell me this, is your ignorance blissful? God told me that it is not.

 

I don't see God doing anything at all.

God has no desire - you are just projecting human qualities onto the divine -

 

Everything is blissful except ignorance. Even ignorance actually is a source of bliss, for when it is removed the relief is joyous indeed. Just like when a stomach ache stops.

 

I am always amused by those who say I have talked to God and he told me that you're all wrong and Im the only one who is right.

 

Now calm down, dude. No need to get so testy.

 

There is a need to get testy. Do not push me.

 

And usually, they get really uptight if you disagree or contradict them in any way.

 

i'm to believe that it is only through human experience that we fall into the illusion that there is any wrong doing, or anything going how it's not supposed to be going. like with healing ourselves and others (others, sometimes invulentarily), when we fall into the illusion that we are victoms of something, or that something is wrong in the first place, we dont let ourselves see the perfectness in what is, and the lesson to be learned (from G-d), in everything. When we pull ourselves out of this illusion, we see that everyyyything is happening for a reason - so that we can learn, grow, reconnect, and rise. i dont know if this is G-d's will, because who of us can ever say that? BUT!- if everything is happening for a reason, and that reason DOES NOT have any dual side to it - no black and white (it's all white, brighttt white =P), like bhaskar said, there is nothing outside of the infinite - only in our human experience. if you choose to believe that, then there can be NO desires, just the everpresent and blanketing 'what is' - which i think is the veil we need to remove. the only desires we see are our own - period. the only desires we see are our own. the only desires we see are our own. when you pull into the peace and the unconditional harmony that IS G-d (or so i asssssume), there are no desires, just what is. no?
it is our own human experience who want to reconnect with THAT, once it is done, apparently, only then are we with G-d, and well, the buddha says, to escapeeee from desires =P.

 

::giggles:: Oh I've met plenty of those people...

 

Its because they're frustrated at their inability to defend their own precious beliefs.

 

their subjective reality might crumble


but the aftermath is always something to behold, True progress.

but, this has nothing to do with the argument in thise post, truly, kharakov has some good points - we all have method to our madness.
but someone who's apparently G-d's conduit snapping and cursing at one's belief, ehhh, dont sound like a True messenger =P

 

Absolutely.

 

No you haven't.

 

I'm not.

 

Sometimes discipline is hard. If you don't take everything as a lesson....

A man asked a monk "What is egotism?"
The monks face turned red, and in a very condescending and insulting tone of voice, he shot back, "What kind of stupid question is that!?"
This response so shocked the man that he became sullen and angry. The monk smiled and said "This is egotism."

 

A foolish and ignorant monk.

 

i personally try to see everything as a lesson, because i don't feel that anyyyy of my current 'assumption' should be stabilized - it is then when #1 you have created an objective reality for yourself, and #2, you inhibit your own growth. learning's discipline is never harsh, it is cherished and enjoyed if it is impending towards growth - if that is what you desire, growth. maybe it's hard when there is a struggle with the destabilization of a stabilized assumption.

*condescending and *insulting tone is something that - i'd think - is more apparent in your comments then anyones, towards everyone. i might be wrong, but it seems that you brought this from an argument: presenting assumptions and reason for the intent of growth, to name calling, and now ego finger pointing =\? that's just my opinion though =\.


let me tell you something that was once told to me (by old_crone here on the forums) about ego.
there was once a young girl who walked around with a mirror. she sat and looked in that mirror alllll the time, in love with herself - i mean, LOVEE with herself, her own reflection. it was sick - her father thought - that his daughter was walking around allll the time with that darn mirror, just admiring her own reflection. One day, he told her, hey sara, you know what happens when you scratch the back of that mirror, right? Her curiosity gripped her gooood, because infact, she didn't have a clueee what would happen when she scratched the back of her mirror. the dad said , 'well, when you scratch the back of your mirror, you find your mojo'. She walked on outside, holding onto what her father told her, looked at her beautiful reflection, turned the mirror over, and began scratching like there was no tomorrow. she smiled a bit, but when she turned the mirror back over, she realized she scratched off alllll the mirror! she crieddddd and criedddd, oh how she cried. "my reflectionnn" she said "it's gonnne =((****. she rannn out into the forest, cried some more. she cried for days =\. but, one day, while out on her stroll, she looked into the pond, and saw herself right there in it. "oh my goodness" she thought. she walked on over to the barn, and saw it again on the barnside door, "oh my gooodness" she said. she rannn home, and told her father what happened, and he said 'you found your mojo', as he smiled, graceeeeeefully =)))). (thanks old_crone)

but, ehhh, it's all good. not something to *accept, or to *reject. just to *chew, which i think is what was going on in the argument before you started this mess. chewing of eachother's presented info.

 

hehehe, the title of this thread is 'understanding spiritual darkness' =Þ

 

This is egotism.