UK Royal Marine charged with murder for killing Taliban insurgent

It never is.

 

Well, if you illegally invade a country, it's pretty hard to play the part of "good guy."

 

Not so hard at all as history has proven. It can take a bit of effort though but the results seem to tell it can be worth it...

 

And what results are you referring to?

 

ok, Ill rephrase my answer..

the only insurgent I see here are those foreigners in the ninja turtle suits and gopro cams killing dude in his homeland..

If there were a bunch of Chinese solider tamping around in your backyard ., u wouldnt do nothing? ..

 

Really? Wow, that changes things then doesn't it. Or it should do. Maybe not - he was the one that said "I just broke the Geneva Convention" as I do not think this was mentioned in the ensuing hand-wringing by outraged human rights wankers. Murder is the charge against the man. I say its not murder, its war. As Sig said, until you have been there you have NO idea what its like and the way you behave or think now at your table with a mug of coffee is likely to be rather different when being ambushed by human jackals.

 

Really, though there are plenty who disagree with me, and plenty who agree.

 

Sure, I get it. Invading soldiers can do no wrong in the eyes of invading country's citizens.

 

Not saying that - he shot someone who would have killed him. Someone who deserver his death. So in this case I think there was no wrong.

 

Why is the U.S. is in Afghanistan?

 

Sig

Perhaps I should have said Judge Dredd rather than Rambo.
Judge, Jury and Executioner.

I understand certain things can happen in the 'heat of war' that is not in any textbook.
And I'm not someone who has been there, at the pointy end of things, like those Royal Marines.
But, they were calm and collected.
They knew what they were doing was wrong.
They did it anyway.
Deciding that somebody is 'vermin' and may or may not do X, Y or Z has nothing to do with how those marines should be conducting themselves.
It's irrelevant what they think or felt about that person.
It was murder.
I may want the person dead - but I wouldn't have murdered him in cold blood.

As it has been said by some of the military: They were/are not above the law.

 

Pretty sure there is another thread addressing that question somewhere.

 

ehh, I disagree. It wasn't murder; it was war. They put a piece of filth out of his misery, in a far more merciful manner than that fuck would have done had he come across one of them. Don't like it? Then look away. War is a dirty, nasty business and not for the faint of heart.

 

Sig,

Well, whether or not the U.S. has a legitimate reason for invading Afghanistan goes right to the heart of the issue being discussed here. That question being: Who's the real bad guy--the real filth?

So, why is the U.S. in Afghanistan?

 

I don't like that statement 'don't like it, look away'. Just because things we (people that are save behind their computers and never been in such a situation themselves) don't like happen doesn't mean we shouldn't take notice. It's kind of the same when people critcize the state of their country and their fellow countrymen say: well, you should leave then. No, not at all.

 

You already said that. And I said it is irrelevant what they may have thought about him, or if they thought they were 'putting him out of his misery'.

They should have just left him in the field to die. / end.

Maybe they should have also raped his daughter, and said they were just giving her a good time...

I'm not quite should I like your brand of soldiering...

 

Take notice, fine. But don't sit there and pretend you have the first clue what is going on or who that war should be fought.

Sorry, man, I get a little bitter about shit like this. Not at you. Civilians who don't have the first clue about what it takes to fight and win a war but who feel their opinions on how it should and should not be waged are valid.

 

And be condemned for that too?

You're better than bullshit like this, Odon.

I am sure you wouldn't. You, like so many others in today's west, don't have the stomach for war. There is nothing wrong with that.

 

Atrocities give birth to even more atrocities. One man commits evil towards another and in return someone else repays that evil act with another evil act.

Now let's be real about the situation. What the hell are these Royal Marines doing there in the first place? They're the invaders. If they wanted to prove to the world that they're really noble righteous men they would deny their orders. They would throw down their weapons and go home.

Don't tell me this is retribution for 9/11 or to protect the United States and England from terrorists. I promise that Afghanistan people don't care about the American/English way of life. This is about protecting the investment and interests of rich Americans and English people. Foriegn policy is purchased in both of these nations by lobby groups and campaign contributions.

 

You might have a point if every soldier/marine felt the same way you did.
But it is evident - they don't.