UFO's fact or fake

Hows the heart?

 

ah, you know it's pumping blood.

what does yours do?

 

I have not been in contact with it for a few weeks, so I'm not sure.

 

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nope! lol of course not

 

Yeah, I am a conspiracy theorist that believes everything. . . right.

 

haha has anyone seen Waiting for Guffman? the alien subplot is freakin hilarious!!!!

 

first of all.... colenzo. you are lame.

matt... did i mention your name? *confused*

 

Loki= Colenzo???? WOW! I didn't know that!

 

um, i didnt either but the "i havent talked to you in a few weeks" and a few others gave it away.

 

Holy shit!

 

i lvoe you too.

i actually gave that theory some thought and then decided it was wrong. so *sticks tongue out* haha

 

he's lucky i like his pansy ass.

 

If you were not there when the actual photograph was taken, and then developed, how can you possibly say that it was an actual picture of an actual "alien U.F.O."? You simply cannot. You have no standing to make any claim about the veracity of the photo.

When they can make motion pictures that depict things that totally did not happen and make them utterly convincing, visually, why on earth would you believe that it couldn't possibly be a fake you're looking at, this red-light-v-shape thing?

This kind of simple-minded credulity is what muddies the waters in the actual, scientific, REAL search for extraterrestrial life.

Don't you realize that giving credence to fraudulent claims simply provides liars and frauds to make money off you by selling you bullshit? Bullshit books, bullshit magazines, bullshit devices... It's a cottage industry, selling to the "I-want-to-believe" crowd. They are sheep to be fleeced, in the eyes of the fraud-perpetrators.

"I want to believe" is itself a crock of shit. If you fancy yourself an objective seeker of the truth, you don't go into an investigation "wanting" to believe anything. Instead, you admit to yourself, "I don't yet know what should be believed," and you let the scientifically obtained data point the way to what is true and should therefore be believed.

I shouldn't have to explain this to anyone who finished high school, but unfortunately I do.

-Jeffrey

 

I know. When was the fucking last time a respected scientist was the person who came and said he was just taken aboard an alien spacecraft?

Hint: never.

It's all a bunch of kooks. You know how I know? Because I would LOVE to have reason to believe in alien visitors! I would LOVE IT! It would give us something to hope for, something to work for, hope for the future and for peaceful relations and learning and knowledge...

So if there was a remote possibility that it was not all total bullshit, I'd be the first one believing it. But I've seen too much evidence that it's all just fraudsters grubbing for money by selling books and lectures and shit to ever believe it. The same thing with ghosts and psychic phenomena. I'll believe it IF it ever happens to me. I've been open to it happening all my life, and still it has not. I'm a believer-in-waiting, and all the spirits, ghosts, or aliens have to do to make me a full-on believer is fucking show up, and they never have.

-Jeffrey

 

haha peicefilgeofry, you just said that believing something beacuse you want to believe it is a "crock of shit". youd LOVE to believe it though eh, and would be the first one to believe any HINT of evidence?

anyway in terms of 911, everyone here is sayin this apparent colenzo newaccount (that guy was so dumb lol) is an idiot for suggesting that 911 was a setup.

i dont think its completely bullshit though it most probably really happened. though its not a really stupid idea. there was HEAPS of evidence that it was a setup, when looking at the evidence properly. however they recently dug up the wings of the plane from the ground near the pentagon, which was the main arguement for the set-up conspiracy idea. maybe the govt planted the wings in later? lol

at any rate, its not stupid to believe 911 was a setup, but inleiu of mroe recent evidence it seems that it wasnt.

though i dont think anyone here who called im an idiot knows of any of the evidence for either side at all so your all idiots.

though one point is true. what sort of passangers would sit still and know theyre gonna die but not overtake the plane? well one plane (the only WELL aimed one.. lol) was taken down be good passangers. but all teh others.. the passangers could have been oblivious to all the commotion. as if they wouldnt all sttand up at once and kick the shite out of the terrorists, some would die sure but they could have saved so many, and they would have known it.

 

Nope, I said that I would like it if it were true. That is not nearly the same as believing it before evidence proves it. I just think that true aliens would be a cool thing. And I am pretty sure I was clear in saying that I would believe it if the evidence came to me, i.e. it was compelling because it first-hand happened to me. That has not come to pass.

For decades, everyone has believed that if you go along with the demands of hijackers, all they want is to take the plane somewhere: eventually, you'll get home, probably unharmed.

This was the turning point. I'm surprised you have not heard discussion of this already, that you have to ask now. It is not unlikely that the hijackers concealed all hint that they were going to crash the planes and kill everyone on board. They probably told everyone to sit still and eventually you'll all go home after we get where we want to go. They were clever enough to play on that belief.

Possibly, in order to keep passengers from getting uppity, they announced that they had a bomb that could blow up the plane, so who is going to charge them and take them down and regain control of the plane if a) they don't know or think it's going to be deliberately crashed if they sit still and wait and b) they think that suicidal hijackers will blow it up for certain if they try to overcome the hijackers?

I think it is believed that the people on that plane found out about the fate of the other planes, put two and two together, and realized that if they did not rush the hijackers they were sure to die, so they tried it because they had nothing to lose. I wonder, I really wonder; did they take back the plane from the hijackers only to have no one able to fly it? Or did the hijackers crash it deliberately even though they were short of their target just because they didn't want the plane taken back from them? Unfortunately we will probably never know.

If I'm ever on a hijacked plane, I plan to be one of those who kicks the shit out of the hijackers. What fuckin' sucks is that while determined hijackers will probably always be able to sneak some sort of weapons on board a plane, people like you and me who want to avoid getting arrested will leave our pocket knives and any other potential defensive weapons at home when we fly, putting us at a distinct disadvantage if we should ever have to struggle with hijackers. It's fuckin' stupid.

-Jeffrey

 

anything can be used as a weapon really

 

Yes, but if it came down to having to take on an armed hijacker, wouldn't it be far better to be able to whip out your Spyderco Military http://www.knifecenter.com/kc_new/store_detail.html?s=SP36GPSE folding knife, as opposed to having to roll up a fucking magazine and try to use it as a half-assed club?!

But these fuckin' morons in charge tell us that we're somehow safer if WE are disarmed.

How fuckin' stupid is that philosophy. It's the same as the gun control philosophy: You're safer from armed criminals if YOU YOURSELF have no weapons available to you.

Everyone should see that argument as the pathetic fraud that it is.

You are safest when you have adequate means to fight back.

-Jeffrey

 

there is a reason why we dont have school shootings and kids getting hold of guns here... what a great idea it was allowing every retard in the country to own a gun.

as for the hijackers.. high heels would be a good stabbing tool and nails are great for gouging. im sure you could rip some bit of metal crap of the plane and use it