Trying to create an armed militia

Discussion in 'Protest' started by Hippie McRaver, Feb 27, 2009.

  1. Hippie McRaver

    Hippie McRaver Senior Member

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    also, you need to be an extreme right wing person to believe in self defense, and exercise our constitutional rights as Americans?

    I think not

    personally though I dont go anywhere without my mutated anthrax... for duck hunting.
     
  2. McFuddy

    McFuddy Visitor

    I don't agree with these guys either, but your candor is insulting and counter productive.
     
  3. kinulpture

    kinulpture Member

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    well this is quite an interesting thread. & it`s one i`ve "rassled" with a long time (the subject). unfortunately, the only way to keep anything is occasional violence. please keep in mind i`m quite against violence. but @ same time i`ve lived on the "streets" for a loong time. & to be honest we`re quite uncivilized. the last 2 girlfriends(well i still "have" one of them) i`ve "had" were constantly bothered by guys hitting on them. therefore, i think it`s all well & good to talk peace. but just keep in mind peace occasionally needs "backing" up. to be honest i often feel more comfortable around "bubba`s". for one thing they can get you cheap firearms. i invited a buncha "bubba`s" to rippee access gathering in Mo last july 4th. & "they" were quite peaceful. perhaps even more so than some hippies i`ve known. i got chastized by it by a couple Of people who didn`t even attend. & they started an alternate alternate a few miles away. kinda funny really.
     
  4. Hippie McRaver

    Hippie McRaver Senior Member

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    Exactly, peace and love is great but if you (peace-nick) are being threatened by someone that doesn't share your life view you better be able to defend yourself unless you care not at all about your own safety or belongings, these people wont debate with you, they will hurt you, or kill you for what you have that they want. Peace and love is a shared idea that IMO strays from human behavior, I think that it is PART of human behavior but so is violence. Being on any one side is extreme and extremist are generally no good.
     
  5. shameless_heifer

    shameless_heifer Super Moderator

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    We should at least have the equivalent of what will be used against us if we are invaded by another country. It wouldnt do us much good to throw rocks at them if they are toting M-16s or whatever the caliber is now days.
     
  6. earthmother

    earthmother senior weirdo

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    Forgive me for being conspiritorial, but it seems like the biggest threat to being able to organize an effective militia in these parts is the fact that so many of the same folks who would be involved in this militia are also involved in the "legal" illegal black market pill and meth problems. This pretty much creates a situation where folks can't function properly, can't think properly, and basically get too laid back, messed up, and stupid to be of any help. What a great way for the powers that be to diffuse the creation of militias. Supply enough bad drugs and they will all just go to sleep or start seeing aliens in the woods...
     
  7. Hippie McRaver

    Hippie McRaver Senior Member

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    how do you mean?
     
  8. xexon

    xexon Destroyer Of Worlds

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    The chances of creating an armed militia to overthrow the government won't work right now.

    Why? Because the people haven't been squeezed hard enough by circumstance yet. You won't have wide support. You'll be seen as just another loony Waco style group and swatted.

    Not because you were dangerous, but because you were too stupid to know "when".

    You'll know when.

    The world you now know must be turned upside down, so that people are looking for "options" to escape that.

    You should be advised that in that time, you're going to have alot of company and competition. Everybody from the religious to the atheist wants a piece of Uncle Sam's hide.

    Take a number and be seated.



    x
     
  9. zencoyote

    zencoyote Member

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    D-Day: War's over, man. Wormer dropped the big one.
    Bluto: Over? Did you say "over"? Nothing is over until we decide it is! Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor? Hell no!
    Otter: Germans?
    Boon: Forget it, he's rolling.
    Bluto: And it ain't over now. 'Cause when the goin' gets tough...
    [thinks hard]
    Bluto: the tough get goin'! Who's with me? Let's go!
    [runs out, alone; then returns]
    Bluto: What the fuck happened to the Delta I used to know? Where's the spirit? Where's the guts, huh? This could be the greatest night of our lives, but you're gonna let it be the worst. "Ooh, we're afraid to go with you Bluto, we might get in trouble." Well just kiss my ass from now on! Not me! I'm not gonna take this. Wormer, he's a dead man! Marmalard, dead! Niedermeyer...
    Otter: Dead! Bluto's right. Psychotic, but absolutely right. We gotta take these bastards. Now we could do it with conventional weapons that could take years and cost millions of lives. No, I think we have to go all out. I think that this situation absolutely requires a really futile and stupid gesture be done on somebody's part.
    Bluto: We're just the guys to do it.
    D-Day: Let's do it.
    Bluto: *Let’s do it*!

    If I can't dance, I don't want to be part of your revolution- Emma Goldman

    IMHO...revolution is a daily thing. When you make someone smile or ease their mind. When you speak truth to power. When YOUR ACTIONS are the revolution.
    Guns will never solve the problem...education will. An informed citizenry would be quite revolutionary.
    Violence is a necessary evil...rarely. One must be able to protect LIFE.

    That's my story....and I'm sticking to it!

    Zen
     
  10. zombiewolf

    zombiewolf Senior Member

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    For anyone that thinks they can fight off foreign invaders or tyrannical gub'mints...

    You got Rifles, they got Howitzers.
    You get Howitzers, they got Apache's and F14's
    You get Apache's and F14's, they got biological weapons.
    You get Bio-weapons, they got Nukes....


    Can your FFl get you a Nuke? I think not.

    ZW
     
  11. hippiehillbilly

    hippiehillbilly the old asshole

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    i answered the rest of your questions already in this thread and the answer to this would be,i am quite sure if a white supremacist in maine had all the makings of a dirty nuke,

    http://www.bangornews.com/detail/99263.html


    that there are others in america who have the same.

    not that i think that would ever be a issue in this context..

    people seem to have so little faith in the american people.

    its no wonder the powers that be believe now is the time to install a tyrannical fascist global system..

    everyone is just going to sit on their hands and go "oh well,their is nothing we can do"..

    makes me ashamed to be a american, if i must be classed with those of that mentality..
     
  12. gardener

    gardener Realistic Humanist

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    Planning an armed resistance on an open web forum seems about as smart to me as painting a target on your forehead and walking out on a firing range.
     
  13. hippiehillbilly

    hippiehillbilly the old asshole

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    i thought it was all hypothetical except for hippiemcraver wanting to join or organize a militia..

    i didnt realize someone could actually comprehend this thread as "planning a armed resistance"..
     
  14. deleted

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    Electrical transmission and distribution lines for extra high voltage are vulnerable to Low Powered Rifles.
     
  15. Hippie McRaver

    Hippie McRaver Senior Member

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    In 1781 in his Notes on the State of Virginia, Query IX, Thomas Jefferson described the militia: "Every able-bodied freeman, between the ages of 16 and 50 is enrolled in the militia. .... In every county is a county lieutenant, who commands the whole militia of his county. .... The governor is the head of the military, as well as the civil power. The law requires every militia-man to provide himself with the arms usual in the regular service."

    and

    for a people who are free, and who mean to remain so, a well-organized and armed militia is their best security. It is, therefore, incumbent on us, at every meeting to revise the condition of the militia, and to ask ourselves if it is prepared to repel a powerful enemy at every point of our territories exposed to invasion."
    -President Jefferson

    I am just exercising my rights, I am advocating no violence
     
  16. deleted

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    violence only matters when you attack a living being :)
    infrastructure dont give a fuck, it has no opinion and feels no pain.
     
  17. zombiewolf

    zombiewolf Senior Member

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    Bullshit spin, man. Check it.
    http://www.infowars.com/obama-hater-had-materials-for-dirty-bomb/

    According to Belfast police, the materials posed no threat to the community and were not of sufficient quantity to build an effective “dirty bomb.”

    “If low-level radioactive sources were to be used, the primary danger from a dirty bomb would be the blast itself,” explains the National Terror Alert website. “Gauging how much radiation might be present is difficult when the source of the radiation is unknown. However, at the levels created by most probable sources, not enough radiation would be present in a dirty bomb to cause severe illness from exposure to radiation.”

    An image of a nuclear bomb detonating accompanies the Raw Story, giving the impression that an alleged Nazi sympathizer and Obama hater had in his possession materials to construct a dangerous device.
     
  18. hippiehillbilly

    hippiehillbilly the old asshole

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    oh yeah give them a month to come up with a story and then the media runs with it..

    "bullshit spin" does apply here alright,but it looks like you are the one falling for it..;)

    no matter he is dead anyway,nut someones walking around america with enough enriched uranium to build two REAL nukes as well as enough depleted uranium,uranium and plutonium to make quite the ugly mess..

    http://www.govexec.com/dailyfed/0209/02309kp1.htm


    and once again,if he had the plans and materials,im sure he aint the only one..
     
  19. Hippie McRaver

    Hippie McRaver Senior Member

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    in case anyone was wondering, the state guard (MA militia) has been disbanded :(
     
  20. hippiehillbilly

    hippiehillbilly the old asshole

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    well that sucks..

    looks like the door is wide open for you to organize a new one then huh??
     
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