Trump is a modern-day Joseph Goebbels

Probably laws similar to Germany and other European nations where Nazi and other symbols and things deemed in favor of them would be a prison sentence. That does not bother me. I'd happily live in Germany tomorrow with the laws they have. I would mises legal weed of course but like laws on what free speech is. In the historical context or in what you can claim as art Nazis are fine. No one erases the history. It's important not to.

Antifa is not what you think it is. I guess you read a lot and assume. Who says they are violent? Nazis. We had a war with them once and the people who did not like them were called Americans not Antifa. They are not committing mass shootings like the alt-right are they?

And what is the most important American ideal next to free speech? Guns, all the guns in the world and the idea that when we decide someone is dangerous to our freedoms we can use the guns or force in general.. It's kind of our wild west cowboy thing. We beat the English and we can beat ourselves. I'm not in favor of any of that but just look at how often the right wing person will say they have the right to use guns or violence if they feel its right.

Those same people are honestly just in shock that people they think are "snowflakes" might do the same thing. They liked it when they thought that only real men like them owned guns and had the balls to do anything. Like in any way it gets harder if know your enemy is equal. Troop moral will suffer.

 

That's no different from Islamic fundamentalists claiming 76 virgins await them in heaven, or Christians claiming they will be rewarded in heaven. Hitler might as well have been a member of the Mafia for all the difference it would have made, and they would certainly have killed him outright if he attempted to control the entire economy. He either made them money, or he was dead, dead, dead, and forgotten.

 

Police now actually shooting at pro democracy protesters in Hong Kong yesterday

The world will stand back and let it happen, because they care more about being able to buy cheap stuff from China rather than....freedom

 

they're an unorganized, loose coalition of people who don't really have any sort of unifying goal except to beat up white supremacists. and they're anarchists

Hitler was an appointed government official who took control of an existing political party.
If it's going to happen again it will come from someone already in a position of power, not by a group of anonymous nobodies who can probably be found sipping lattes in their skinny jeans when they're not beating up white supremacists lol

interestingly enough though, that article did mention that in the 20s white and left wing groups were beating each other up in the streets of Berlin. shades of the Proud Boys and Antifa

 

A question to people of my age or older (over 50). Does it seem like there are fewer normal/average/regular people these days and more people on the extreme ends of the spectrum? I grew up in the 70s and 80s and I don't recall people getting along this badly. Or was I just not paying attention? Both Carter and Reagan seem middle of the road compared to the political clowns making trouble these days.

 

Yes, things have changed. Drastically

 

Hitler overthrew the existing government, which had become a hollow shell, so hollow, he met with no resistance whatsoever when he made himself a dictator. The rest of Europe was no better, with all the governments willing to look the other way, and allow him to amass all the weapons he wanted, on the assumption he would not attack all of them. Fuck em. Without personal integrity, Hitler is the only alternative, and republicans are hellbent on ensuring their government has no integrity whatsoever.

 

The money has all floated to the top, the KKK is running the republican party, and all is well in the land of Oz. Situation normal, all fucked up. Historians have noted that the "Happy Days" of the 1950s were a fantasy, unless you happen to be a member of the KKK. Little Beaver and Wally would attend meetings. Even republicans are getting the message, that their own government is only a problem, because they elected them and don't have the balls to shoot them.

Blow up your TV, or your local bank! Throw away your papers, that you don't use to wipe your ass, onto the pile of trash you threw together, to burn down the house. Shoot people in public places with automatic weapons, and blame it all on the evil commies taking over. Fox News is legally entertainment, and there are no standards for the truth anymore, except the public insists the government and corporations they call evil, lie to them for their own protection.

Film at 11:00, or you can just watch Three Stooges reruns. You can't have a fucking democracy, when nobody ever votes for candidates who actually represent parties. Donald Duck was democrat, that the republican party leaders wanted nothing to do with. All the studies indicate, it really doesn't matter who you vote for, only the wealthy are getting anything they want, which is how the civil war started. Lincoln freed the slaves, and gave them bank accounts.

 

That

 

Its the internet. Extreme left and right, the only time you'd even see evidence of the nutters is when they tape their posters to power poles, and you only actually hear them if you went to one of their crazy meetings

Nowadays, you watch one barely related youtube video and up they pop on the suggestions list and they are only one click sway

Wasnt this bad in the 90s even

 

I always laugh when the far-left calls themselves anarchists. Anarchy does not mean chaos. It means no government. As in no government to implement your Keynesian or Marxist dream world.

 

Trump is a political card player and politics is so dirty that trump can win with anything that is dealt to him. Something that disgusts me is the Republican part has no self consciousness because with their supporter they don't have to. It does not go past the team mentality.The Dems are not too far behind.

The parallelism to Germany's WW2 government is silly if you study history. Historically the winner writes history and its not if you kill ,its how much was made from it and if they could get away with it. The U.S from a moral view point should have declared a war with the soviets at the same time. Hitler and Stalin had a deal to split up Poland but Germany would do the hard work and basically just hand Stalin a gift.
The Holodomor was well known to the U.S government but nothing was done because U.S companies where making a tidy profit form the Soviets and the time. The Soviets were comparable to the Nazis but the Soviets were good and the Nazis were bad.

Here's a political card game example:
The Nazi party was against cigarette smoking. Is cigarette smoking good or bad? Should you smoke because the Nazi's were against it?

 

I wonder if the internet is good or bad at easing these tensions. On the one hand it opens lines of communication, but on the other hand, much of that communication is trolling and harassing

 

You can look up facts on the internet.

 

You can also look up the facts from every major university in the country, which all show your vote no longer matters, and that one simple glaring fact, puts all the others into the spotlight. Its not really politics if there are no functional political parties. The so-called Libertarian party is composed almost entirely of KKK members, Neo-Nazis, and fundamentalists and has been steadily destroying out democratic institutions for over twenty years. Only complete idiots who depend on reality TV to tell them what to fucking believe, still believe the US government has a functional democracy. Donald Duck's only political card that he has to play is to attack the same government his party has been attacking so successfully for over twenty years, and his success testifies to just how bankrupt the political system has become.

The democrats, were just as eager to sell their fucking government to the highest bidder, and the idea they will save anyone belies the last twenty fucking years of the entire country going down the toilet. It makes no damned sense whatsoever, to talk about American politics today, without pointing out what the assholes are spending their money on, which includes attempting to buy the entire mass media, now that corporations are people too and the sky is the limit! Fox News is legally entertainment, so you can't even sue these people for liable. They are only legally human when it makes a profit.

 

I particularly enjoyed the last one, trying to pre-empt those claiming revisionist bullshit. They started off as a workers party post WWI, not as left as the SD or commies, but still left. They put the term socialist back in to the partys name to appeal to the middle class.

Its simple, you are never going to convince anyone a workers party or unionism is anything "righter" than centre left.

Plus there is the direct quote from Hitler himself shortly after he became Chancellor and all his rants on capitalism

Oh, and the whole bbq-ing 6 million Jews he saw as all the rich cunts of the time that hoarded all the money, thing

Revisionist bullshit because the left loves to pretend only right wing can be racist.

Mao in China, Stalins Russia, the Nazis, Kampuchea in the 70s....the 4 largest examples of genocide in the modern era.....all emerged from left wing politics

 

The Nazis were far right
Hitler was far right
And there have been instances of far left genocide under communism, no one is denying that
But calling Hitler far left is the revisionism here.
He used socialism to win over every day Germans because it was a popular economic philosophy at the time. But his fascist ideology was a far right ideology.

Did you even read the article I posted

 

Thanks for agreeing

 

I'm just going to post this again, why waste time arguing when someone has already made the argument for me

Adolf Hitler was not a socialist