trip report

I see where you're coming from about the spiritual element, maybe this person just wasn't ready for it.

 

god your not listening to me, one trip i stay inside watch some movies and you think thats what i do all the time. If you think you cant just take this to have a good time your full of shit. I dont look for spiritual and life changing times everytime i do it, if that happens its a bonus imo. The sweet visuals and feelings are good enough for me. well last time ill post here most likely tonight. Wouldnt want 3xi to get his panties in a bunch if im on the computer tripping.

 

Damn, another debate about nothing. Yet again, there really is no arguement and both people are true.


Everyone is allowed to do whatever they want when they trip. That is human nature. If you want to watch a movie, climb a mountain, or go to bed, so be it. Although I do agree that LSD is much more meaningful when used in a good setting, sometimes a person may not want a changing or meaningful trip and may just trip for the pure ecstasy and bonding it brings.

 

what ive been trying say

 

i dont think hes afraid, i think hes a teenager...not everyone likes to go into a deep spiritual quests when they trip, some people like to chill.

I agree though, i never watch movies. When im commin down and just smoking myself retarded then yeah, but on the peak its all about music, glowsticks, and chillin with friends. The fun of the trip is the tirp itself, not video games and movies. If you really immerse yourself in the trip you learn ways to control it and really test the drug effects.

 

like i said - if you knew what was going on, you wouldn't have the desire to preach to people the truths of LSD.

 

My dear friends,
I hate when there is argument where there shouldn't be! This (SPECIALY THIS) thread is about LSD-Acid trips, and who ever understood acid fully (if it is possible at all), that person found out about the true strongest love, and felt one with everything and everybody! Person like that will never try to make the argument and insults to anybody, he/she/it will try on a beautiful loving way to express the feelings that he is honoured to feel.
So, all of you, not just on this post, everywhere try to spread love and understanding, bearing in mind that nobody can be helped until he lets you help him. So by giving that person love and understanding (even if you see that that person is several levels below you(if you can even say that way)) you will make that person to let you help him soner than if you are insulting him. If you were honoured so much to understand what Lucy is telling you, there would be no problem for you to lower your self down in order to open somebody's eyes. THE MORE YOU LEARNED ON LUCY, MORE YOU WILL BE AWARE HOW LITTLE YOU KNOW!!!! If you start your sentance with "I know for sure", immidiately you are creating the question in somebody's head "who the fuck are you, god?" So, try to build some tolerance between us, and try to say "in my oppinion", witch doesn't need to be the same as yours......

Please people, if we here can not spread love who the fuck on this world can???!!!!!???

Please 3xi, try to explain nicely to young deadhead why are you suggesting to go out, and maybe he will listen to you. You (and I) know from witch perspective you are comming, but he saw it from other perspective, and insulting (in his oppinion) him did not help him understand what you are talking about.
But me telling you this, probably saw something else from some other perspective, and please try to understand it in order to continue in your enlightment. As you have been through wathching TV on acid and found out something devine after that far from TV, thats how I've been through telling everybody what I found out on acid, ending up hearting them. So, if you really want him to raise above that level, try to understand what I am telling you, so you can also raise above. I deeply feel that every post that you write, you do it with whole hart in best intentions, but not everybody is ready to hear what you found out. Try to explain in several steps, as that is much more exceptable for someone than if you tell just the final result. Learn to be patient, patience is mother of wisdom!

LOVE YOU ALL, AND BETTER BEHAVIOR AROUND THE WORLD!!!!!!!!!!

 

so, i take what you are saying to mean that i should not have just come right out and said that watching movies and playing video games on LSD is a waste of time. you suggest that i should have just talked around the point for hours in attempts to flatter him first. give me a break!!! the reason i take the time to try and prove my point is because i truly care about this guy. there is absolutely no way i could have come onto his thread and said that watching tv is a waste of your time without him being offended. there is no nice way to put it - he is wasting his time period. he wrote a whole trip report about playing video games and watching movies. there is no way that anyone who thinks that this type of a trip is a waste of time could be honest about how they feel without him being insulted. the problem is that he feels insulted only because he thinks i am insulting a perfectly good way to experience LSD. but he is wrong - this is NOT a matter of perspective - watching tv on LSD is a waste of anyones time and that is all there is to it - this is not JUST MY OPINION - so i will not sugar coat my point to try and make it easier on him as it will only make it more confusing. my point is that watching tv on LSD is bad for anyone - it is not a matter of perspective and saying that it is only my opinion would invalidate my VERY GOOD POINT!

i do this out of love and compassion. i take the time because i care. if it was only my opinion i would not be wasting my time.

there are many things in life that are just my opinion and i understand that other people are different and have the right to be different. i am no idiot.

watching tv on LSD is not something that could ever be good for anyone - i dont care who you are or where you come from. that is why i take the time to make my point clear. which i did a great job of doing. sometimes, even when you are completely right people will still not hear you because they are too proud to admit that maybe they are wrong. that is truly the case here. the guy is young and inexperienced - he is not ready to hear my point today so he makes a big fuss about it trying to turn me into a bad guy for taking the time out of my day to try and help him. i do not regret making my point as i am sure that some of it got through and maybe he will realize that i am right some another day.

i never said that i know everything about LSD and i never would. why people must resort to such silly arguments is beyond me thats for sure. just because i realize that i am right about something does not mean that i think i am smarter then everyone else or that i know everything there is to know about LSD. all it means is that i KNOW for a fact that watching movies or playing video games on LSD is a complete waste of your time and LSD - i know that i am right and take the time to explain myself out of compassion for a fellow man. his life and experiences with LSD would benefit greatly if he was able to let go of his pride for a miniute, listen to what i have said and turn off the tv when he trips.

i never assumed that he always watches tv like he said in a post above. if he actually read my earlier posts he would know that because i actually said that i dont know if he has experienced trips without the tv or not.

i am right - it is NOT just my opinion

he is being a baby and some of you are trying to shelter him in some way by trying to suggest that my wording wasnt considerate enough of his feelings.

i am intelligent enough to understand that it is always best to be completely honest. get to the point even if that means that someones feelings may get hurt. the truth is that his pride and ego are hurt and that should be a good indication that he needs to change a few things. i did not hurt his feelings on purpose - rather i said what needed to be said knowing full well that i might hurt his feelings but in the long run it is for the best. it is in his best interest to hear what other people honestly feel about his trip report!

about the preaching and no one will listen to anyone who tells them what to do speel. first off i am being honest because i care - how anyone else wants to perceive it is up to them. back when i was younger i was coming down off of some good LSD when i turned on the tv and started playing some video game. this new friend of mine that i was tripping with laughed at me and made some comment that upset me. he expressed his concern about my tv watching and in his own way suggested that i turn it off and find something better to do. at first i thought he was an idiot - i can do whatever i want as i continued playing my video game. it wasnt long after that (maybe a month or so) when i realized he was right. thanx to him pointing it out for me the next time i tried to watch a movie on LSD i turned it off 20 mins in. it wasnt just his suggestion that made me turn off the tv. i started doing more research at that time and really started to understand and appreciate what LSD is and what it can do for me. i realized that every moment is precious - especially on LSD and that there are far more interesting things to do in reality then plop yourself down in front of the tv. if LSD opens you up so much and can effect you for the rest of your life i should be careful how i choose to spend my time when tripping.

i am honest and i care. i speak up out of love not hate. i do not feel hatred.

it is a sad world - i hear it all the time that my honesty is not polite enough. and i just laugh - if you only knew. honesty is key to love. you can not love unless you are honest. you must be completely honest in every moment in order to love. if i was polite i would have to be two faced and say something different then what i actually feel - that would be lying in a way.

watching tv, movies or playing video games on LSD is a waste of your time. i know i am right NOT because i am god or the smartest person in the world but because i have learned this through experience and as we can all clearly see from this thread i am not alone in this.

i am the one who speaks the truth. i speak my mind and when i know i am right i and i make that clear. who i am and what i do in this respect is actually commendable.

coming strait out and saying what i think is not evidence that i am not a loving enough person to listen to. on the contrary - i speak up because i care - because i love.

young-deadhead should respect what i have to say. he doesnt so i demand it. i point out how childish he is being for his own good - not to hurt him for some sort of sick pleasure.

anyways,,, i could go on and on... but i feel i have made my point clear once again.

my abilities to be strait up and to the point should be respected by you. instead you try to suggest that i am not as good a person as you and that i should be more loving. my honesty is love - think about it again, maybe you will understand!

young-deadheads reaction is typical and it does not mean that i didnt get though to him in some way. i almost expected his reaction and can see no way that i could have or should have put it any nicer. it doesnt matter how i say it because of his pride he will not let himself see my point right now. BUT there is a very good chance that he will snap out of it later. also there are others who will read this thread and maybe i can be of some help to them as well.

 

if you had any idea of what you were trying to say you might have taken a little longer and elaborated!

there are definitely certain truths in life. one is better off when they are able to listen to those who have walked before them.

 

3xi your posts get worse and worse.. i dont know you personally but i think everyone would agree that you think you know alot more about acid then you actually do

stop trying to preach lsd like itd be read from THE BOOK OF 3XI.

the thing that got to me the most from your post is this..

"i am right - it is NOT just my opinion "... that is the most laughable statement ive heard on any forum yet. your posting how people should enjoy there experience when there the ones who went down the street or watever and bought the acid. its there trip not yours so let them have it and stop telling everyone their wrong.

your talking about a substance thats supposed to open your mind and you proved post by post really how much of a closed minded fuck you are. why should any one respect you when your just trying to push your views on people the same as the fucking government man.

my advice to you is to drop a few tabs and shut the fuck up. im sick of good threads wrecked by arguments because people like you think your right.

PEACE OUT!

 

i am sure at 18 years of age you must understand that in order to say that you know i am wrong you must know that you are right. in order to say that i am wrong for saying i am right you must think that you are right. you are a hypocrite doing the same thing you just spit on me for. only you are much younger and lack the necessary experience to know what you are talking about.


why dont you go take some LSD and watch the wizard of oz - if it doesnt open your mind the first time why dont you do it again.

kids and their entertainment. it is like taking candy from a baby.

 

at any part in my post did i say im right? you seem to start an argument with every person who disagrees with you so pardon me if i dont listen to your obviously genius 31 years of experience. your just grasping straws in calling me a hypocrite and the age thing is also irrelevent i could have been a child genius and you would have never known. i may only be 18 but i know for a fact by the time im 31 i wont be nearly as big of a know it all douche as you are.

and on the wiz of oz thing, werent you arguing a few pages back about how you shouldnt sit around and watch TV on acid? and thats what this whole thing is about?

"i said that watching tv or movies or video games on LSD is a waste."

so you my friend are the hypocrite.

 

you posted saying that i am wrong to think that i am right. you must think that you are right or you wouldnt have said anything.

you are not very bright.

about the wizard of oz thing - yes i was being sarcastic. i thought it was obvious and apparently it is. why is 3xi suggesting to watch a movie? that seems very out of character! (maybe he is being sarcastic - ever think of that?)

 

Well i have to say after having tripped thursday my point of view has changed radically. 3xi was actually right about alot of things, although watching movies is fun and still fun but i have experienced to much of that and need to move on to experience new things.
I believe that is key to having a better more interesting trip, plus i see what you mean by distracted by the tv. You wont have very many thoughts cause your to busy focusing on whats going on.

So even though your posts came off rude at first thankyou 3xi. Now i have to face the problem of where to go and trip and be in a new environment without the fear of getting in trouble.

I also feel like tripping not just to get fucked up and have a good time but to try and learn something.

 

and so johnny (2nd from the right ^ ) finally found that dollar he lost so long ago and the perpetual logarithmic channels of deception and truth eventuate themselves to the unbeknown ignorance of the human mind.

 

^^ what the fuck does that mean

 

What is the worst, 3xi is totaly right, but the way he is trying to show you something, his all aproach to people is very agresiv and wrong. That is what I had to say to him, and he misundestood me that he should not tell the truth.
If he explained to you nicely what to look for next time you are tripping, you might listened to him and realized on your own that Yes, watching TV on LSD is complete waste of time, but instead of doing that, he started with insults. I know exactly what he is trying to say always, because I was there, but he does not understand what I wanted to tell him, because he was not there. He is acting exactly like you when he told you that watching TV on acid is waste of time. He just can't see where I am comming from. And also, he is always saying that he has expirience and that others should consider what he has to say, and I agree with that, but he also said that he would like to hear something from someone who has more expirience than him, yet when I suggested something he ignored completely my point. I was like him few years ago, I had astonishing discoveries and I had to tell that to everyone, even if that hearts them, but than sister Lucy showed me something, and I am trying to show that to 3xi. You can not expect from somebody to just belive you what you say without expiriencing that them self, so when you try to show something to somebody, and if that somebody does not see that, you must go back and give them pin points how to reach to your point of view, step by step, not just saying you are young and you must belive me. So, I believe that if he told you, try next time to go out and look at the trees, how full of life they are, how everything is alive, and to try to feel one with everything and everybody that surrounds you, try to love and so many other things witch comes after that, I believe that you would say that you will try to do it next time. If you ever had opportunity to do that, you would realize definitely what 3xi had to say, but as I said, his approach was, and still is on many other posts, cosing people not to listen at all what he has to say. As I said on the begining, he is almost 100% right with everything that he suggests or explain, but if somebody does not understand his point of view, further aproach actually make everybody to argue with him completely missing his points. Nobody on this site ever argued with me about anything, although I had pointed to some things that maybe 1% of people understood, but I put it in that way, that even if somebody doesn't understand, he will think about it and it will stay somwhere in his mind, and if they reach that point, they will know exactly what I was talking about, if not..... what can we do? Start insulting each other who is actualy right or wrong?

All I have to say is treat everybody like you would like others to treat you!!!

 

whatever the fuck you want

 

ok perphaps i should rephrase the question, what does it mean to you

 

i get what you are saying and trust me i have debated with others about my 'approach' to many things. my argument is that it is their fault if they are not willing to hear me. if the way i say things tends to get everyone upset then what have i actually done - i have brought out something inside them. in most cases i am right and when someone will not hear me because of the way i worded it they are only denying themselves the truth.

i see your point. i understand the need for people like you in the world. but you and your nice way to word it gets lost in the mix a lot of the time. people dont really change there point of view after you were so nice to them they just dont put up much of a fuss. of course you will have people that hear your point and learn something from what you say. what i am saying is that some people need my approach. strait and to the point.

i didnt want him to have me explain step by step why he is wasting his life away. i wanted to make my point, upset him and hopefully wake him up in the process. in my many years of experience being this kind of person i understand what effect it causes. at first, most people are childish and lash out or resort to calling me names but after awhile most realize why they were so upset. if what i say upsets or hurts you then you know that what i said was the truth. because if what i was saying was bullshit you wouldnt care what i said.

i realize that my approach causes a lot of grief. but i also realize that what i am doing is bringing out the worst in someone. as hard as they try it is impossible for them to completely deny what i say.

i do understand what you are saying and still i disagree. i am not being mean to these people i am just speaking my mind. i like to get a rise out of people sometimes as it shows themselves something about themselves.

not only do i get to help them understand how much of a waste of time it is to watch tv on LSD i also get to help them with their pride.

most people come around and hear what i am saying later.

in a way you are telling my that people are too proud and that i should be sensitive to that.

if i say to someone that they are wasting their time with something and they get upset i know that i have gotten through to them on some level. maybe not right away but eventually what i said will sink in as they realize that i only want to help. if what i said only makes them hold stronger to their unhealthy or destructive ways then all i have done is turn up the volume on the problem. what ever it is that makes them deny the damage they are doing to themselves will have a harder time denying it when the damage is happening more often out of spite. when someone tells you that what you are doing is wrong - some people will do whatever it is even more now out of spite if only to try and justify their actions.

what i am trying to say is, yes i know that i get people upset all the time. my point is that by doing so i turn up the volume on the problem making it that much more likely that they will at some point clue in. if not, there are always people like you around to come at it the other way.

thanx for the help

"do onto others as you would have done onto you" - words to live by. i live by this rule. i dont like it when people are unable to speak their mind and tell me exactly what they think of me. when someone comes up to me and says that i should do something different i listen to what they have to say and ask any questions that might help me understand why they feel this way. i am very open to hearing other peoples suggestions about anything. the way i am with people is how i would like them to be with me. be honest and strait to the point - i would never be upset with someone for doing that even if i think they are wrong. i appreciate the gesture and i am always open for a discussion.