People like YOU are the reason so many agnostics and atheists are repulsed by Christianity in general. Is it fair that some of us condemn an entire religion based on the actions of a few morons like you? No, just like it isn't fair that you condemn entire races, religions, and sexual orientations based on whatever idiotic nazi reasons you use to back them up. I clicked on this thread prepared to say something along the lines of "That isn't true...Christians aren't persecuted." Then I saw who started the thread. Warrior, you are the embodiment of everything that so many people find despicable about Christianity. You need to ask yourself "What would Jesus do?" instead of just displaying the bumper sticker next to the Confederate flag and swastika.
i suppose i should put a warning on here...DONT READ IF YOU ARE A CHRISTIAN AND AFRAID TO QUESTION WHAT HAS ALWAYS BEEN TOLD TO YOU instead of type up my whole bit again ill quote it from another thread... christianity is recycled paganism...they borrowed the stories, just changed the names and places.
all these dieties were worshiped long before christ was said to have lived...im not saying there isnt some truth in the stories, but i think the bible very inaccurate...it contains more translation errors than any other book in history. go back to the source if your looking for the truth, ancient egypt is the farthest back i can trace these stories...other than possibly atlantis...but thats just a myth, right??? anyway there is much more i could type up that has nothing to do with older versions of the same stories that would discredit the bible but id rather not take the time... unless you really want me to
Personally, im not really a religious person at all because all religons are man made and they all change to fit what is going on in the world today. I just kinda take from each religon. I used to be catholic but its just not me. I dont find catholics tend to be closed minded and not always excepting of other religons, that probably contributes to people being anti-christians.
like i said, all the "fake gods" i mentioned were worshiped long before christ. horus was worshiped in egypt over 5000 years ago. its history bro
Popthree, "We have been told lies for nearly two thousand years now (the earth is flat..." -Can you please tell roughly when it was discovered that the earth was round?
that is why God said in the very first commandment, "I am the Lord your God, you shall have no other gods except me".
This thread was set up to ask, "why" the anger towards Christians, not "This is another good place to bash Christians". I would love to respond to your personal insults, but my hands are tied and so therefore I will not respond to anything that is not "on topic". This is only to remind everyone what the topic is. Thank you.
Fair enough. I gave an "on-topic" answer: The reason that some atheists and agnostics dislike Christians is because they live in communities surrounded by YOUR brand of Christianity, which any rational person (Christian or non-Christian) finds offensive. If my knowledge of Christianity was limited to the things you've posted on this forum, I'd probably be anti-Christian too.
Although you are still off topic, I am going to respond to you at the risk of being banned. My "brand" of Christianity is probably less than 1% of Christians. I am a Christian who fights fire with fire and one who is willing to fight to the death for my God and my Saviour. Why not? Jesus died for me. Am I too valuable to die for Him? I have the heart that my God gifted me with and it is much like the one He gifted to warriors such as 'Joan of Arc' and others who did not stand by and watch evil destroy the words of God. No, I am not a saint, but I am my God and Saviours sword on this forum. I am not a "we love you and forgive you anti-Christ "Christian", I am the real deal. Had it not been for men and women through out the ages like me there would be no Christianity. They would have never fashioned a sword against the hate that comes from people like you. This site is full of "love thy neighbor" fools who would continue to try to reason with the unreasonable untill the unreasonable removed thier so-called "Christian" heads. Come for mine and God will give me the power to remove 100 of yours. In response to your pathetic excuse for being anti-Christian. People do not live in communities surrounded by my "brand of Christianity". They live in communities much like this one, a very tolerant and forgiving little "if we love everyone the bad will go away." Strangly, they are like that but the bad such as yourself plagues them even more. You know what? This is my thread. I know that topics change as they progress in a thread, therefore, you nor I am off topic. We are following simple progression.
I have to agree. I wish my, "brand", of Christianity was being taught today. It seems that mostly mainstream Christianity is being preached. It's giving people this notion that as long as you say you believe in Jesus and you show up to church, then you are saved. There is so much more than that.
I am not anti-Christian, but really I think this sort of talk is one of the main reasons a lot of folks are. Clearly, Christianity has done nothing to reduce your egotism - 'I am the real deal' - but Jesus forgave even those who murdered him. If I were you I would seriously consider beating this sword you express such enthusiasm for into a ploughshare. As for 'reasoning with the unreasonable' - no logical proof exists of God's existence, so it is not unreasonable to have doubts. What is not acceptable is the promotion of your Christian belief through negative attitudes towards non-believers. All that will do is harden them in their unbelief. An intelligent presentation of Christ's teaching, done with sensitivity and love is the only hope to convince the sceptic.
did you even read my posts? my point was ...fuck it, nevermind. i am officially quitting the christian forum...it was never really my place to throw this shit out there to begin with i suppose, who am i to try to get others to ask questions about their faith instead of follow blindly. i guess what ever makes you happy is best for you though. you just cant have a resonable debate with a christian...i offer proof, they offer bible passages. anyway, im done here
Warrior, you need to learn to open your eyes and your heart. You are about to get yourself disrepected and disliked by both Christians AND Non-Christians with this "Holier than thou" act of yours. I know you're not going to listen, so all I can do is pray for you that you will see the light. I am willing to do whatever God wants me to do, just like you. But what God wants me to do may be different than what God wants you to do, and just because it is different doesn't mean that one of us is wrong. Even if it meant one of us was wrong, you do not have the right to say that what you believe is "the true way" and everyone else is screwed. I've been reading your posts. While I appreciate that you are "on fire" for God and you feel so strong in your convictions, I think there is a lot you need to learn, because you aren't gonna get anywhere being the way you are. You are too focused on "the rules" instead of on what it's really all about. I feel sorry for you, because you dig yourself into a hole and then wonder why no one wants to help you out of it. Your words are hurtful to Christians and especially to non-Christians, and I know that is something God doesn't want. I wish you knew it. I know that, being the way you are, you are going to continue to be stubborn and full of yourself. But I tried. You'll be in my prayers. I know God loves me and listens to me, even if by your personal, deluded, close-minded, unaccepting, unloving, and unJesus-like standards I am not a "true Christian". I know I am. That's what is important.
Osama bin Laden is saying the same thing about his "brand" of Islam. Warrior, it is YOUR kind and bin Laden's kind that are ripping this world apart over your "brand" of religion.....it is sickening. You and he are the same, cut out of the same cloth.....don't you see it! You are blinded by your own hate. You have NO love in your heart and neither does bin Laden. Do you have children??? What kind of children are you raising, Warrior? God help your kids, because you sure aren't! You sound like a card-carrying member of the Klan. You, are a very, very scary person and I thank God you are not my neighbor.
ok I have been brought up in christianity. I have been to several different denomination churches. I know the ins and the outs. I won't say I'm an expert because I think it would be wrong for anyone to say that. But being brought up in those surroundings my whole life I never knew any other kind of path. My eyes were always shielded from the other religions and my parents became worried if I started to investigate - what were they trying to hide? A whole load of new perspectives on things. There is nothing you can do to say "Christianity is right" because none of us know. None of us have FACT that Christianity is right because otherwise everyone would believe it. All religions eventually come down to the same things, they're all just versions and versions, yet you tell the other religions that they are wrong. Something that we don't even know. I think it's the people who Christianity has been imposed on throughout their life that are more likely to be anti-christian - take maralyn manson for example - if you read his autobiography you'll see exactly WHY he's turned out how he has.
I think most of the time it's actually the Christians who turn people against God. It's nothing to do with rebelling against God or the good book or anything. Just the people.