Topic: Anti-Christians.

JesusDiedAfterSex,


"Showtime was trying to say that the Bible predictions were not valid because they predicted and fulfilled within itself. That's why I had to explain to him that the Bible was not written in a day, a month, a year, but centuries."


Listen... i know the OT and the NT weren't written at the same time... maybe stupid ol' me shoulda made my point clearer...


I believe Jesus existed... but he was no messiah... all of these prophecies probly were predicted in the OT... but they probly never actually happened... knowing that this proves the bible (and therefore god) horribly wrong, the people that wrote the NT decided it would be best to just go ahead say that all of that bulshit did happen... even though it didn't...


"Wow! Is this your first time in this forum because campbell and I have been writing for awhile now for a while now that Christianity is far from blind faith."


So... you still just can't get over the shock that people can't just be convinced of the "good word" simply by saying it's true... and oh yeah, i know you have all that "evidence" of yers... pbbbth!!


Y'know, if yer having trouble converting "sinners" here, maybe you should just try another website forum... buh-bye and peace, man...

 

Showtime/Redneck-Bud

Listen... i know the OT and the NT weren't written at the same time... maybe stupid ol' me shoulda made my point clearer...

-Then why did you say this:

"Predicting something that will happen later in the book is not a prophecy, JesusDude... if anything, it's foreshadowing..."

I believe Jesus existed... but he was no messiah... all of these prophecies probly were predicted in the OT... but they probly never actually happened... knowing that this proves the bible (and therefore god) horribly wrong, the people that wrote the NT decided it would be best to just go ahead say that all of that bulshit did happen... even though it didn't...

-Why would the writters of the NT die for a lie then?




So... you still just can't get over the shock that people can't just be convinced of the "good word" simply by saying it's true... and oh yeah, i know you have all that "evidence" of yers... pbbbth!!


Y'know, if yer having trouble converting "sinners" here, maybe you should just try another website forum... buh-bye and peace, man...

You've seen the truth....but your still crying wolf.... you'll never believe...

How can I convert you when it seems you already committed to a religion-Denialism

 

what truth?

christianity?


god?


or the truth about how you answered his questions to the best of your knowledge and ability?

 

You read the link in my signiture right?

 

JesusChristopherWalken,

"Then why did you say this:"

I explained that in the next paragraph of that post...

"Why would the writters of the NT die for a lie then?"

I dunno... there's no figuring some people...

"You've seen the truth....but your still crying wolf.... you'll never believe..."

I'll "never believe" because I don't care enough to... there is no scared widdle ignorant atheist Showtime refusing to admit the "obvious truths of the bible" because he's afraid the world he always knew will come tumbling down around him... i honestly just don't care... yer refusing to see that because (once again) yer too arrogant to accept the fact that some people in this world are gonna disagree with you... buh-bye and peace, man...

 

Genesis, my post was meant for all christians that do not adopt that totally literal fundementalist approach to the bible. I wish to honor them, and assure our anti-christian brothers and sisters that not all christians are like that, in fact, fundementalists DO NOT represent the majority of christians...

well actually that is still the surface, deeper and deeper is subatomic particles, deeper still is the unified field, that has been proven and still has yet to be disproven... this unified field made up of these subatomic particles flowing in an endless sea of interconnected energy, expands the whole universe, thus everything is this one pure supreme energy. Thus there is no "desk" there is only YOU, for YOU are this energy as much as ME as much as the DESK, we are all this energy, we all come from this source, this consciousness, some call it god, allah, krishna, the ultimate reality that was realized by the buddha... in fact, we all fight each other about what to call it.

Life is but a dream, death is but a transformation, everything is flowing in super intelligent pure energy, you are the buddha, you are the christ, you are the ancient one, find a place of total compassion and love for all beings, and ride the heavenly present moment deep into... beyond concepts, beyond the rational mind, total bliss, beyond suffering, out of mind, out of body, laughing laughing, then beyond all such things. You never come back, you would never want to, it puts you back because you have more to do on this plane, i have been there, we all have, let's remember!

I love who we are!


In the fundementalist's universe if we follow the logic presented by them... here is an example of some poor sap that will burn in the lake of fire... a bushman living in the remote parts of africa and living a simple beautiful life... These people are nice, have no fights, live together in harmony because they have no poccessions, and if they fought they couldn't survive... they are peaceful... this bushman growing up has never heard about religion or any of the outside world, they have no technology, just live in a family tribe... they just know about the gods, and these gods have given them everything they ever needed, the religion is simple, primative, and the politics of it, is confined to finding enough water to survive in the very dry climate. But he doesn't believe in the fundementalist's religion, therefore, upon death, he is bound to their ego delusion also known as the lake of fire, eternal hell... he must suffer not for a hundred years, not even for five thousand, but forever... just because he was born as a bushman. Yet that is the way it is, those people in the streets with signs that say death to fags or abortion is murder, those people talking about hell all the time, and believing is the way to be saved, these people always talking about how soon the end of the world is, then changing the date to a few years after they said it would dead... THese people that deserve our love and compassion... these people are apparently the only people chosen for a life in eternal heaven, at least they aren't ignorant enough to believe they will get seven virgins or something like that.

 

Excuse me? Are you proud of being American? Have you ever been proud of anything in your life? If so, your a hypocrite. You are obviously a proud Christian, why can't I be? Who are you to tell someone they cannot be proud of their culture, heritage, religion, etc?

Okay, so you agree that the Old Testament should be interpreted in a non literal manor, do you also agree that the part about gays and jonah being swallowed by a whale should be interpreted differently?

Example--God created the world in "7 days" right? Well, a day to God could be millions of years to us, is that a fair assesment? I mean it does not matter that much, I was just getting your opinion on this.

 

jozak, you know, the way your words flow I see the harmony, I see the beauty, praise be you.

much love and healing to all of you


May all beings be happy
May all beings be safe
May all beings be at peace
May all beings be free

 

GanjaPrince, yer a trip man...

 

-The Bible clearly states that being gay is a sin against God(He destroyed cities for it)

-I do believe that story of Jonah and the whale really did happen. Jesus said it really happened to in Matthew 12:39-40.

-The Bible says 1 day with the lord is a 1000 years

 

"The Bible clearly states that being gay is a sin against God(He destroyed cities for it)"


So... what yer sayin' is... god... is a bigot and a prick... hm!... well then... screw god...

 

What I am saying is the world chooses to follow not the God of the Bible but one of his former angels-the devil. So what seems normal to the world in reality is evil.

I believe campbell's sig describes is best:

"The god of this age(the devil) has blinded the minds of unbelievers, so that they cannot see the light of the gospel of the glory of Christ, who is the image of God." (II Corinthians 4:4)

 

But god is still a bigoted homophobe, right.... ok, jest checkin'...

 

I guess when you look at the devil's point of view

 

Soddam and Gammarah was destroyed not simply because of homosexuality, it was a wasteland of immorality, hetero/homo/ and everything else you can probably think of.

Why is it that you will admit it's not okay to hold slaves as captives or stone women, but still adhere to the belief about homosexuals, not to mention Christ never said one word about homosexuality. Ancient Rome and Greece were notorious for embracing homosexuality, especially the Greeks, do you honestly think Christ would have not have said something about it?

 

Well, if god hates gays, that makes him a homophobe... so i guess Lucifer is right on this one...

Satan: Gee, thanks, Showtime!

Showtime: Anytime, man...

Satan: Hey... i got two tickets to see the Allman Brothers... wanna come?

Showtime: Hell yes! I loves ze Allman Brothers!

Satan: Allright, let's go!

(Satan and Showtime hop into Satan's old Station Wagon)

Frank Zappa: Hold on! I wanna go to!

Satan and Showtime: Sweet!!

okay, okay... i'm go ahead and end this post now before it gets to sill...

Satan, Showtime, and Zappa: Hey!! Were not done!!

Zappa: Now i was thinkin' we could stop by red lobster before the concert.

Satan: Red Lobster!? Nah... how about Subway?

Showtime: I'd prefer Papa John's mysel...

SHUT UP!!... *ahem* buh-bye and peace, man...

 

As a matter of fact, rather than prove it wrong myself, I'll show you where it proves itself wrong.




Very early in the bible, it says that God created Adam and Eve, then later it says that God created Adam, then Adam wandered around and was all sad and God was all "Thats wack he shouldn't be alone" and God took his rib and made Eve.


Then Adam and Eve had children. (this part everyone knows and uses all the time). Kane and Abol both got married and had kids. Even though they were the only people in existance other than their parents.

The Gnostics tried to explain how kane and abol got married, but it was just mystical bullshit like the rest of gnosticism.

I've read the bible. Don't talk down like I haven't.


The bible is a huge collection of previously written books on the idea of Christianity, many of which contradict eachother and are from what were different parts of Christianity. The Book of Revelation was replaced by another book that explained a similar thing but COMPLETELY differently. It's not in hte bible, hence it's just bullshit now. So if that made the bible rather than Revelation, Revelation would be bullshit now and the other one would be the "true" one. Your entire belief system is based on a bunch of somewhat random, unrelated books thrown together and changed variously throughout the years.


Personally I don't like Judaism OR Christianity, but I respect Judaism more in the sense that, Jews don't eat pig. Christians do unless they're vegeterian. However, The Torah and The Old Testament are the same book. So Christians aren't supposed to eat pig or anything else listed as bad in the old testament. To defend themselves they say "We follow the New Testament". Now, had this been true, that'd be fine. But it's not true, because if it were you would have to disband the entire story of creation, gays wouldn't be bad (that's in the old testament with the pig), etcetera.

 

more reason to show why religion is a tool to make life happier. Children have imaginary friends for the same reason. fills the void. a freind who doesnt have complex thought processes, they jsut love you. a friendship slut.

and so your saying that if you were going to hell, it was definate (hypothetically), that you would continue to be a good christian for the decades before going to an eternal life of pain and suffering? One of the other regulars conceded that they wouldnt. it mgiht have been you. or brock.

 

Where are you pulling your questions from? Hypothetically? I AM A CHRISTIAN. What part of this don't you understand? You are nothing but a deamon in desguise. Your questions are child like and do not contain any thought process. What if you knew I was right but decided you still wouldn't follow Christ because you prefer to live your life the way you wanted to? What would you do then? Oh wait, you are doing that now. Get off me deamon, you have nothing I want or need.

On another note, what about Chrisitianity harms you so? What about it makes you so disgusted? Is it the love, compassion, forgivness, bond between humans? Yeah you're right, those are such vile qualities. I laugh at you deamon, I expected more of a challenge, go away now, you are not wanted here.

 

I bow at all your lotus feet, for you are all christ!

Let us dance in ecstasy with god, for she is playful and christ is laughing up there on the cross, look closer, closer, and you will see a wink and smile, because he gave everything to humanity, he gave his body, nails in his hands while he cried out for thier forgiveness, what compassion! He surrendered totally to god, and gave it all for the dharma, he went beyond all suffering like his buddy the buddha, did his part, because the reward of surrender to the divine is worth any damage to the small ego that deserves love and compassion but don't get caught in it, the body, the mind, these things will pass and fade away, you shine... you shine like a crazy diamond!

love love love love, wheeeeeeeeeeeeeee

OMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM

Praise be all!