Top Ten Signs You're a Fundamentalist Christian

No just more facts. With names that can be checked out. If the information was untrue there would be an outcry from the liberal end. I don't hear it. If you have information that comes from other credible sources which would counter what Jeremy Lott has stated, then put it on line. Otherwise I would suggest, your the one with the empty rhetoric. You go on and on telling me how this is all untrue, and you offer no credible sources to back up you arguments. Im not interested in your personal opinion, only facts.

 

So your sources are credible because YOU say so, and any other sources are incredible because YOU say so.
Take the blinkers off!

 

Micro-evolution is a fact. Everything does evolve in some way or another to adapt to it's environment. Nobody can deny this because it's happening every day and it's visually apparent.

Macro-evolution, however, has never been proven. You don't see a new lizard forming from an ant-eater or a human forming from a lion. If you support Macro-evolution then you must believe these types of changes can occur, otherwise your a hypocrite.

What has always been questioned is the exact "mechanism of evolution".

Did God create earth, man and animals then give them the ability to evolve? or did we all come from some primordial ooze? Or maybe some other big bang idea. These and thousands of others are the theories of evolution.

One of the biggest mysteries surrounding evolution has always been dinosaurs. Evolutionists claim that humans and dino's never lived together on earth even though their own science has proven otherwise. Fossils of dino's and humans have been found within the same layers. However, all the carbon dating science lies and BS try to dismiss these findings. Carbon dating is only reliable to roughly 4000 years and most say 3500 years.

The bible refers to dino's also. It's believed to be what is called the Behemoth. The famous line "tail like a cedar" has boggled many and the only explanation goes back to a dino. So the bible has info saying that both coexisted and science also proves it.

Now go read all the info you can about why dinosaurs are the key to determining many of lifes questions.

 

why didnt jesus ride a raptor into town instead of a mule?

 

My sources have never been brandrd conspiratorial, yours have.

 

Because Hundreds of years before Christ was born, the Old Testament prophecies stated that the Massiah would enter Jerusalem, on a donky.
Jesus fulfilled that prophecy, and 300 others.

 

That is simply foolishness which comes on top of your lie

Yet your own sources have no objectivity due to inherant prejudice and bias!
How about you address the solid credible source (by your own assumed measure, not rationale) that have been cited already instead of squirming and slithering around it? ie ~

Similarly though misleadingly reported (which is what one comes to expect from christian apologists) @ http://www.biblebelievers.org.au/nl362.htm
September 11, 2001 -- Vatican scholars are preparing to rewrite the Bible by incorporating revelations contained in ancient scrolls discovered beside the Dead Sea in Palestine . . . inserting new details about the life and times of Jesus Christ.
The influence of radical Jewish groups who wanted to overthrow Roman rule is likely to feature in the new Bible, bolstering those who interpret Christ as a revolutionary who fought political oppression. Full story: books.guardian.co.uk
Source ~ http://www.biblebelievers.org.au/nl362.htm
This Press Release was sent just hours before the attack on the WTC!

Why didn't christendom reverberate with the news? Because christianity is more concerned with hiding the truth than publishing it! as cited below

 

First of all your sources have been branded. Hershel Shank, who is the Editor of Biblical Archaeology Review and has no bias because he is not a Christian, states that Michael Baigent and Richard Leighs book, The Dead Sea Scroll Deception, is utterly groundless and their central thesis is so badly flawed as to be ludicrous. I am still waiting to hear this kind of condemnation of the sources I put forward.
Also, the way it was reported may sell a lot of newspapers but everything I have read indicates that historical footnotes are to be added to the Bible but there is no change in articles of faith or doctrine. The Dead Sea Scrolls had a great deal of information of historical events which were extra biblical but did not counterdict the Bible. You stated that Christianity was more concerned with hiding the truth than publishing it. Well if that were true, why is the Church adding these inserts to the Bible? Doesen't sound like their hiding anything to me.

 

You're still slithering around in your usual manipulative way trying to divert attention from your lie that "the wording of the scrolls is the same as the bible we read today." That the vatican is rewriting segments of the bible is authoritative proof that the content and the context of the bible is not the same.
I understand it must be difficult facing up to uttering such a lie, but if you can't show honesty or integrity, at least show something other than
deviousness campbell34 .

 

Ok, I have given you THE NAMES OF TWO AUTHORS that have stated that Word for Word the Bible is the same. I have read where that Vatican is going to put historical foot notes in the Bible. Now, if you are going to continue to call me a liar, then tell me the Books, the chapters, and verses, that read differently. And give me the names of the people who claim this. And not some general reference that cannot be confirmed. I have a feeling, it will be you who is doing the slithering around this one.

I'M WAITING

 

Epiphany, this is my theory on this (in a way supports both Creation and evolution but the creationist aren't going to agree, and the evolutionists aren't going to agree)

Okay, so here's the world, all nice and pretty after it's five days (or 5,000 years whatever) and God goes, "You know, pretty place but it's just that." Closing his eyes he thinks for a little bit "We need something other than plants, keep the plants in order and then other things to keep the things keeping the plants in order, in order. But if too much made now, then too much will be taken away."

So, and here's where the singularity can come in, he makes something with a different gentic code then any of the other plants and leaves it for a while. This something, whatever it was developed into animals (I'm not going to say man and animals any where except in the paranthesis because, waits for the stones to eventually fly, humans are animals) over well thought out period of time. God already knew what will eventually develope and what would survive knowing how the whole world is gonna go and everything, and when he saw Adam he made the promise to him about always living in Paradise, God's image on Earth.

So yeah, God could have made animals on the 6th day... but the animals were in the singularity form. Not already fully developed.

 

Two authors? where are the other 8 to complete the "at least ten" you big-noted?? Seems you lie about numbers also, as well as failing to provide the same or near credibility that you demand!
Once more your 'methode de slitheure' focusses upon fleas, ignoring the fact that the dog is mangy! vis-a vis your 'chapter verse author' crap ~ the information is news campbell34, news that was overshadowed by the 9/11 WTC, news that wasn't reported with your precious sensitivities in mind, but the truth.

Rory Carroll in Rome
Tuesday September 11, 2001
The Guardian
Vatican scholars are preparing to rewrite the Bible by incorporating revelations contained in ancient scrolls discovered beside the Dead Sea in Palestine, it emerged yesterday.


A team of theologians and historians will gather in Italy later this month to start the potentially explosive task of inserting new details about the life and times of Jesus Christ.

The influence of radical Jewish groups who wanted to overthrow Roman rule is likely to feature in the new Bible, bolstering those who interpret Christ as a revolutionary who fought political oppression.

The Bible is based mostly on manuscripts written centuries after Christ lived, but the so-called Dead Sea scrolls, found at Qumran by shepherds in 1947, have been dated to the decades before and after his crucifixion.

The 800 documents, written by the Essenes, a Jewish sect, date from 170 BC to AD 68, and chronicle the turbulence of the Roman occupation of Judea.

Gianluigi Boschi, a Dominican priest and Vatican biblical scholar, told yesterday's La Stampa, a Turin daily newspaper, that an international commission of scholars had been given the green light to update the Bible by culling material from the scrolls. The initiative will be officially announced at a conference at the University of Modena on September 26. The team is expected to include Etienne Nodet, author of the The Origins of Christianity; Paolo Garuti, a biblical scholar; and Garcia Martinez, president of the international movement for Qumranic studies.



Martyn Percy, a canon doctor at Sheffield university, welcomed the initiative but suggested the results may be less than dramatic. "There has never been a settled, definitive version of the Bible, it has been an evolving book which has gone through many translations. Only fundamentalists think it came in a fax from heaven."
Source ~ http://books.guardian.co.uk/news/articles/0,6109,550132,00.html

Pilgrims of faith Marian Center newsletter October 2001
page 11 http://www.geocities.com/pilgrimsfaith/2001/01p12n10.pdf

http://www.answerway.com/viewques.php?category=661&quesid=12337
http://www.adventist4truth.com/News/vatican-new_bible.html
http://www.apologeticsindex.org/news1/an010918-20.html

 

I ask for a Book, chapter, and verse, not a web site. Name the Book, the Chapter, and the verse that is in error. If you can't, then you don't know what your are talking about.

 

Oh my Campbell, haven't you realized that they basically are feeding you proof after proof (he might not have the book but look you can go to the website and see if it was made by a 14 year old or something. It's from a freaking news source if you can read). You're just being sore.

 

dammit I am way too lazy to read all the post, I wanna argue!!!!!

 

I have been feeding him proof after proof to. He said, she said, does not cut it for me. If someone states the Bible is not true, don't give me second hand information. Give me Chapter and verse. If you don't have it. Keep your second hand reports. I have written testimony from theologans who say that word for word the bible reads as the dead Sea Scrolls. Which I have posted. I don't need to hear what a reporter reported, I want to hear it from the horses mouth. I have gone to many of his post, and they are about the same. All second hand information. What I have posted in most cases, is first hand information. It has nothing to do with being sore. Every time I deal with non Christians their information which they state as fact is tainted by second hand news media reports. Give me documentation of the person making the claim in his own written testimony. Just as I have done on these post. No more no less. And if they can't do that, then they really don't know what they are talking about. He said, she said, does not do it for me.

 

My point is the person might not wanted to be like you and clog up the forum with information any person could get alone. Much morse of a trusting manner and more polite. There's little chance words were played with to fit the argument and they acknowledge the fact that someone is smart. There's this little thing called research, and another called researching OPPOSING sides. So why don't you, since I'm assume you are retired... you spend a fair amount of time on the computer if you are working., use your lovely free time to do something like that.

Think of it as writing a thesis.

 

or perhaps go outside, go fishing, go build a temple, go give food to the poor, go share your compassions and convictions with those less fortunate or just feel the love of your god. How can you write anything about 'truths', 'proofs', 'illusions' without sounding like a dork to somebody... if anyone cares enough, they'll join up with your religion , create their own convictions, just like yours, feed the collection plate... or they'll just sit around calling themselves christians and spend more time arguing about things that have been argued and killed for for thousands of years.
Evolution may not be that old, but ignorant people have been killing in the name of God for long enough. I usually steer clear of any religious topics here cause most people with a deep sense of 'God' (ANY God) will know that it's a waste of time.
If you need to prove or disprove a belief system... then you're fucked up and should check your head a bit. just my opinion
My apologies for my pessimism

 

Yeah, those are good choices too. But I was just picking up on his hobby. New hobbies are also good Campbell

 

Christians claim to know who Jesus was but Jesus himself said:

Luke 10:22

22"All things have been committed to me by my Father. No one knows who the Son is except the Father, and no one knows who the Father is except the Son and those to whom the Son chooses to reveal him."