"None of the bands you mentioned is a fucking Post-Rock band..." <--whats with the hostility? If you recall: "Tool, Isis, Rosetta, Mouth of The Architect" Those are all post-rock/ post-metal bands. If you say Tool isn't post-rock I don't know what is. Yeah, everyone has a different opinion. Its just sad when someone tries to disprove what I said with complete and utter lies.
Lol. Tool is Progressive Metal. Post-Metal is metal instrumentation for non metal purposes. Tool is a metal band with prog influences. Isis are the founders of Post-Metal and they have nowhere near the influence of King Crimson and Led Zeppelin on Tool. 65Daysofstatic is a Post-Rock band. Tool is not. No hostility I just swear a lot, and I'm in a bad mood.
no hostility taken, genres can be deceiving, thats why I make arguements to see other people opinions. Definently Tool is prog but CDs such as Lateralus and 10,000 days are becoming more post-rock than anything. Isis does not relate to King Crimson or Led Zep, but Tool does thats for sure. ARgh, i think they should just call post-metal post-rock. Post-metal is getting too specific
All three have, whether through licensing, music videos or big shots at media attention. Countless times, no doubt.
I really don' think Tool is Post-Anything. They take their cues from the Likes of Dream Theater and King Crimson, not Isis and Death. They have most of the typical Metal characteristics, like high theatricality, the vocals are very Metal...They are sure has hell not Post-Rock, they are very much a rock band.
I'm tired of arguing this back and forth with you. I know what roots Tool has and I'm telling YOU that in the evolution of the band known as TOOL, they have become post-rock. Do I have to get out the schooled stamp and stamp it right on your forhead? You leave me no other choice. And one thing I can't stand is people telling me shit I never said. Where in that quote of mine does it say that Tool got its sound from Isis, and death? Who are you? Get out of here! [SCHOOLED] ^ ^ ___
By calling them Post-Metal you said they got their influences from Isis and Death...Seeing as their the founders of Post-Metal.
For one I didn't call anything post-metal. Second, just because a band is a certain genre doesn't mean that it got influenced by another band. If anything, Isis is a spawn of Tool.
It doesn't matter what bands their inspired from. It could be a variety of bands, and that doesn't determine there genre either. The music they make determines what genre they are. And there's also 800 genres that are just stupid. Keep it simple, Tool is a rock band. And that's my opinion.
Another thing, Isis is NOT older than Tool. Isis's first CD, Mosquito Control comes out in 2001. Tool's first CD, Opiate comes out in 1992. YOu should definently research your stuff before you say it. WHat we are arguing about is the fact that Tool has become post-rock with such albums as Lateralus and 10,000 Days. I don't care what you have to say because I know it is. You clearly don't. I like how Tool takes vacation periods to enjoy their life and let the music settle over the globe. I'd say yeah, 2011, 2012. Maybe it'll come out on December 21st, 2012. That's whats I'd do.
I'm gonna go check to see if that date is on a tuesday, this is to be assumed in the future(twighlight zone theme) CDs still come out regularly on tuesdays. Nope, thats a wednesday. >.<
Eh, sorry, must've been thinking bout' someone else. Anyway, apparently you don't know what Post-Metal is, seeing as you consider Tool, a band which is clearly Prog-Metal Post-Metal. They're a Metal band. They've toned it down a bit the last few albums, but they're still a Metal band.
Alright, well, I've ignored this retarded argument on whether tool is post metal / post rock or whatever long enough. They're not. They're clearly not, calling them such is a blatant misuse of the label. They do have songs that touch on the post-sounds, but they are far from a post rock or post metal band. You can call ignorance on my part, but keep in mind that I'm not telling you to change your belief though, some people think squirrels are evil and plotting to kill us, you're welcome to believe what you wish. oh, and if tool has become post rock in their past couple albums, so has staind, disturbed and all those other shitty midpaced, mainstream heavy rock bands.
Hahaha, Tool is many things: -Progressive -Rock -Metal -Post-Rock -Music Yeah, many of these bands are becoming more like post-rock such as Disturbed, Deftones, I don't know about Stained, never really liked them. lol, midpace, thats funny
Also a good way to describe the speed of a tempo between 80 and 115, where most tool songs seem to stay.