To drink or not to drink

Discussion in 'Rainbow Family' started by earthmother, Dec 2, 2006.

  1. hippiestead

    hippiestead Ms.Cinnamon

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    Each Rainbow has a different view on what ideas are Rainbow. For us, it's a Family reunion and the drunk uncles & aunties are a part of the scene. we're not crazy about other folks putting off their views on us...like veggie folks who tell us that we can't cook meat cuz it's a Rainbow Gathering & we respect the veggie folks enough to make a veggie pot even if we are cooking meat but man don't tell us that we have to play your trip cuz it's not about you it's about Us as a Family & that meat pot always empties faster than the veggie pot....
     
  2. wootier

    wootier Member

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    i cant imagine anyone thinking rainbow is some sort of free party...just cus were drinking, doesnt mean were here to get drunk, just like people dont go to rainbow to smoke pot, but it just comes with them
     
  3. hippiestead

    hippiestead Ms.Cinnamon

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    see enough folks with 'dose me' signs & you'll know that some only want to party. thing some folks forget is that Rainbow is about healing & growth and all kinds of things really and sometimes those party folks will accidently stumble upon the Light.

    Course the party folks are usually looking for more than booze or pot & a lot of drinkers work way hard to get the trails workable long before other folks show up, smokers too....seed camp has lots of folks with rough edges but none of them are working that hard for just a party
     
  4. dd3stp233

    dd3stp233 -=--=--=-

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    There are quite a few people that think that is just a free party, some outside estimates have been about that roughly half the people at a gathering think that.
     
  5. drumminmama

    drumminmama Super Moderator Super Moderator

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    LOL at HHB... ok, you got me...

    I think Rainbow has created its own like-minded pockets, for good or ill isn't to say for now. It is what it is, but the folks who need to either be around or be away from certain energies should be able to siddle along and still be Home.
    A-camp is the only camp that I can think of off the top of my head that is created around one non food, non coffee consumption habit and people who are identified because of their habit.
     
  6. hippiestead

    hippiestead Ms.Cinnamon

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    what about the drug free camp for dyslexic hippies or Nic at Nite?
     
  7. Shithead_n_dozer

    Shithead_n_dozer Member

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    ok you go your head up your ass sry to say. thers camp dedicated every drug under the rainbow, ever seen a group of people sitting around a fire with nothig to say, nodding out? kids cooking meth in ocala? it aint all sunshine and butterflies man. syre you can try to pretend it dosnt happen, but why live in a fantasy? what do you think the whole hippie culture was alot to begin with? a bunch of spun out mofos with open minds and peace in there hearts. drugs helped create us including alcohol. all the best people i know in rainbow are drinkers
     
  8. dawn_sky

    dawn_sky Senior Member

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    I think there should be areas where alcohol is ok and areas where it is not ok (at least if you're gonna drink there, be discrete and don't get all the way to drunk). So I'd vote for A-camp and being discrete in your own camp.

    As long as we're respecting everyone who chooses to drink, we gotta respect those people who can't deal with being around it, whether they're just high holies or whether they're ex-alcoholics who would be too tempted or whether they're children of alcoholics who freak out cuz of their own issues if they have to be around it. Not everyone who bitches about being around a lot of drunk people is a high holy or whatever. Some just have issues of their own.

    Damn. That's fucked up and not at all fucking cool. I don't care what you wanna get fucked up on, but when you're dumping toxic fucking waste in the forest, you need a fork stuck in your neck. And cooking meth produces some highly toxic fucking waste. I hope all those fuckers od. Better yet, get fucked up, trip, and fall with their faces in that corrosive shit (get their face ate off). Or just blow themselves up.

    How the fuck is that Rainbow to put that many people in risk to their lives (if they fuck up, cause an explosion, set the forest on fire) just for a little high? That really pisses me off. That ain't rainbow at all. You wanna do meth, well, I think you're too stupid to live and should be removed from the gene pool anyway (being from the midwest I've seen what that shit does to everyone who even thinks it might be fun once in a while), but at least cook it where it ain't putting anyone else in harm's way.
     
  9. wootier

    wootier Member

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    cooking meth vreates alot of hazardous waste, including meth
     
  10. barter mama

    barter mama Member

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    I think it's all about respect and being discreet. This applies to any substance, moderation is the key and at gatherings you need to respect what Rainbow is to everyone.

    It hurts to see my brothers & sisters struggling with a horrible addiction (especially if it's something as nasty and toxic as meth), and I do think that some substances really aren't what Rainbow is all about. But I can only interpret it for myself, so I try not to judge and just hope that people are awoken by all the light & love at the gatherings. :)
     
  11. wootier

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    i suppose, in the end, its just that we have to respect eachothers choices...look, if somebody thinks smoking crack is worth it, good for them, smoke it up, im not gunna smoke it...i can see how it would look pretty bad a bunch of people on the trails doing that kinda shit, and it gives me some sort of vague idea of where the people who dont wanna see drinkers r coming from...then again, there can only b a certain degree of acceptance and respect, and one party, i suppose the majority, is going to take presidence over the minority... if it comes down to, ure not respecting me by drinking on the trails, and ure not respecting me if ure not letting me drink on the trails, but everyone still wants to make it about respect, were at a stand still...never will both party's be happy...but thinking about the group as whole, as a family, lets say...i think we would all make out better if drinking were kept at certain camps(other than a-camp), this way all apposed could avoid those camps, and everyone who wants to have a drink doesnt have to go to a-camp or hide wat there doing...
     
  12. Sunshine Al

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    As they say "You hit the nail on the head". It's about Respect
     
  13. measa420

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    Brother couldnt agree more
    thats all it boils down to
    Love and Light to every single one of my
    Brothers and Sisters

    R*E*S*P*E*C*T
    very simple
    an yet
    very effective

     
  14. Gyva02

    Gyva02 WACKY

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    I Love to drink beer, but dont at the gathering. Can you imagin the whole place being like A-camp... holy shit no, I wouldnt go. Call me what you want but its true, alcohol for the most part brings out the negative in folks. Let the bashing begin fellow drinkers.... Just stay in A-camp to drink.... :)
    Mike...
     
  15. GreaseMonkey

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    I totally agree with you brother! I drink all the time with my friends in babylon but I love coming to the gathering where I can be away from that energy for a while.

    This last summer in CO was a mess when A-campers decided to bring a keg into the 4th of July circle! First without asking anyone they came rolling in and set the keg down in front of a vegan kitchen I was chilling at (the one with the pirates up high on nets in the white trees that dangled a piece-take a toke leave a toke... ). The kitchen people and my friends and I all were yelling "no alcohol in the church!" and "Shanta Sena!". Then the keg was moved and put in the middle of a bunch of huge bushes that were trampled! I was in Calm with Rainbow fever a few days later when I overheard a calm person talking about how a guy approached people in A-camp and simply told them that the keg was not cool (or something to that effect). They beat him up really bad (he needed medical attention), smashed the windows of his car and robbed him blind. I also heard rumors of gang fights over the keg incident.

    The drunks who brought the beer to the main circle could of at least gave out free beers in the spirit of the gathering. Im sure alot of people would appreciate a drink and nobody would get too trashed. But according to Shanta Sena they were being hostile and territorial and needless to say they were not in the sharing spirit.

    Hopefully in the future Shanti Sena will be more prepared. I talked to one for a little while and it seemed like they were caught off guard to deal with this and their efforts simply focused on preventing violence by creating a zone around the keg.

    I heard that a while ago beer was allowed in the gathering. But lo and behold, the violence became a problem (as it usually does in LARGE crowds of drunk people) and the Elders decided to create A-camp as the designated drinking place.

    Alcohol has created so many problems in babylon and is responsible for many deaths in my family as well. Having an A-camp seems like more than enough compromise to me. We are all family and even if you're an anarchist you can come and show some fuckin respect!

    Luvvin y'all!

    Greasemonkey
     
  16. hjaystone

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  17. OnlyOne

    OnlyOne Banned

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    Yeh, ah little or ah lot, that iz the question a drinker must be able to control.
     
  18. Shithead_n_dozer

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  19. weedheadmatty

    weedheadmatty Member

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    get with it. you don't believe in anything else the bible says, so don't pervert it for your purposes. if you really want to claim a lineage and kinship with the fathers of this land, you would do everything in your power to eradicate this scourge from your presence. how has alcohol served the community? has it helped anbody? no. has it caused misery? yes. i'm telling you- there is absolutely no thread between FAMILY and ALCOHOL.
     
  20. OnlyOne

    OnlyOne Banned

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    Most familyz drink wine together at many mealz in france, Italy, ect. with food, not like with homless dersperate trollz wantin to get a high felling at any cost.
     

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