Those Against Homosexuality Are Not Bigots

Because that is how I personally view the act of homosexual sex. If two people are happy with each other, good for them. I say let them do what they want. I am not out to tell people what they do is wrong, but am rather expressing my own personal opinion which you disagree with, which really should have no bearing on you whatsoever.

 

And I Think People Who Indulge In Interracial Relationships Are Doing So Because They Are A Total Failure Within Their Own Race And

Have To Go "Shopping Elswhere".............

How Does That Sound To You...????..............."Deviant And Disgusting"......????......I Think So.

Just For The Record I Do Not Feel This Way........I Just Want An Apology From P.R.



Cheers Glen.

 

Kind of racist, but I am not offended in the least as it is simply your opinion.

 

Does that mean you two are going to have a baby soon?

What does that even mean? One of those phrases that gets copied by everyone, and people just say it

Not sure I support anyones lifestyle, especially if they are really into dumb things like golf or soccer, or get really excited about home renovations

 

I've never really understood this reasoning. If homosexuality occurs in nature, and always has, in multiple species - then how is it unnatural?

Also the second argument, the fact that they cant reproduce. A lot of straight men and women are infertile, so it would follow that they shouldnt bother with sexual relationships either.
i assume you and your girlfriend partake in some form of birth control, thus rendering your orifaces wasted, correct? Er..whatever u meamt by waste orifice, kind of an awkward sentence.

 

Too right. this line of reasoning is just an attempt to logically justify personal squeamishness.

The only two anti-homosexuality arguments that hold any weight are: "Because my bible says so" (and even this one doesn't really hold up under scrutiny) and "Because I think it's icky!"

And the answer to both is: that's your problem, pal.

 

Oh, waste orifice. I see lol. Plenty of straight people enjoy anal sex.

 

Eventually, you find out how people really feel about touchy issues. May take years--but eventually----------------. I'm sure humans have always done physically what humans do to this very day--------so-called deviancy and otherwise. Eye of the beholder. No harm--don't mean shit to a duck.

 

no, there is another and actually the only real valid argument, it does not fulfill the biological goal of sex; producing offspring.
If we are talking what is or isn't "natural" well the only real natural purpose for sex is reproduction, so homosexual unions are not "natural" in that sense nor are they productive from the very strict biological perspective/goal/purpose of sex, reproduction. Any other benefits from sex are enticements to promote reproduction, nothing more.
Claiming that because there are sterile hetero individuals is weak and pointless as the same percentages of sterility will be found among homosexuals and still does not address the actual basic purpose of sex.

just because other animals may engage in same-sex relations only indicates it appears to be a normal mammalian behavior, but strictly speaking it is still not the "natural" purpose of sex.


it depends on where a person draws the line on what is "natural" or not.
Given our abysmal knowledge of brain structures/anatomy and hormonal influences, a homosexual person may be acting "natural" according to their personal genetic makeup and hormonal influences, but that does not mean that it is "normal" behavior as it does not result in the intended reproduction which is the sole purpose for sex and sexual attraction.

Now this is gonna sound really bad, but in that sense, homosexuality is an abnormality if viewed solely from the biological purpose of sex. That really can't be argued against if a person is honest.

having said that, personally it makes no difference to me what a person does or their sexual orientation, even PR.



side note, if scrutinized it will be found that the OT was against any type of sex that did not have the chance of producing offspring, as did many other ancient tribal based civilizations as their strength was in numbers.
If Archie is fucking Jughead and not Betty and Veronica, ain't gonna be as many soldiers in the future..

 

The way two(or more) people feel toward one another is natural no matter what the feelings are. They are a response to stimuli.

Lol about calling any consensual or non harming act deviant. It might not be the norm, but how can anyone say that it's morally incorrect. My grandmother would have called an inter-racial union deviant, as do a large percentage of people where I live do now.

 

And PR, you know if you stay with the same girl for a considerable length of time, you are eventually going to try do her up the back door, if for not other reason than simply just out of boredom

 

isn't that the definition of "deviant", something that deviates from the norm?
without applying any moral qualification to it, by strict definition homosexuality is deviant.

actually most arguments "justifying" homosexual behavior presented when taken at the most simple and basic level/definitions fall on their face.

It DOES deviate from the norm, socially and biologically.
It is NOT NATURAL if the natural intent/purpose of sex being reproduction is taken into consideration.

being honest about it would be acknowledging that homosexual behavior is not natural and is most likely the result of something being amiss in a persons biological makeup as it does not result in the end product of offspring, the SOLE purpose of sex.
the fact that homosexual unions do not result in offspring is pretty much the only valid criteria to declare it not "natural", but as far as it being abnormal, nope, it appears to be very normal behavior for mammals.

Now lets add in all the human cognitive, emotional and behavioral aspects into the equation and we find it does not make a person "less than", mentally ill, a social deviant (in the negative connotation) or any of the other lame-assed nonsense Maccabee and the asinine articles he linked to claim.

 

The definitions that I found apply the moral qualification to it.

Evolution doesn't have an intent, or a purpose(there is such a thing as asexual reproduction, that does well in certain environments). Evolution only "selects" by giving a greater chance of continuing a trait in a certain environment. And where is the proof that all, or any homosexuality is genetic. Maybe everyone is bi but doesn't know it because of cultural programming. When I was a kid, I never thought I would be attracted to, or want to have sex with anything but white women - because of cultural programming. That's definitely not the case now(I'll prove it if I have to).

As far as justifying homosexuality at the most basic levels - how can you get more basic than feeling.

 

Ofcourse you are correct. But some people just don't WANT to listen.
Most people in the West agree with you. And worldwide, the OVERWHELMING majority do.
But we don't live in democracies. Too many agendas are being foisted upon us. Celebrities and the like ("opinion formers") who speak out are intimidated and persecuted.

 

You've got half a dozen or so harsh life lessons still to come

One is the uselessness of negative reinforcement. You are not going to change the way people think, you only change the way they pretend to think around you

Another is context, an example is what you said there, "Most of the people in the West agree with you" agree with what exactly? Make damn sure you are talking about the same thing. Vague generic phrasing. Do you both have the same problem with the same subsets of GLBT and equally? The answer is NO.

An OVERWHELMING majority in the rest of the world do ....ARE YOU SURE?

 

Our lives are a series of accepted rituals that we learn as we go from infants to teens to adults. When some humans do not adhere or can NOT adhere to the accepted ritualistic behaviour, scorn soon follows. To me it appears rather childish to be unable to accept the behavior of our fellow humans as concerns what some consider to be outside the rituals of a given society. (I'm not justifying murderous factions such as seen across the world)Perceived as some kind of threat, mayhem and occasionally murder proves just how serious societal rituals are to some folks. Many have paid the price for attempting to be 'themselves'.

 

Seriously, how the fuck is homosexuality not natural when it occurs in nature? Are gay people designed in a lab?

 

you misunderstand. maybe you just had a knee-jerk reaction without actually considering what I said.

homosexual BEHAVIOR is normal among mammals, as I said.
BUT
if we are going to consider the NATURAL FUNCTION AND PURPOSE of sex, which is reproduction and continuation of the species, than homosexual behavior is NOT normal because it does not fulfill what the natural purpose of sex is as it does not produce offspring.

that is simply science and biology, you are the one putting all kinds of emotional baggage into it, not me.
are you going to tell me that sex isn't supposed to result in offspring at it's most fundamental level?

as I said before, it depends on where you want to draw the line on calling something "natural".
I did acknowledge that on one level a person's brain structures and hormonal composition may make homosexual BEHAVIOR perfectly "normal" and "natural" for them being dictated by their biological composition, and that is perfectly fine as far as I'm concerned.
but further down at the basic function and purpose of sex, homosexuality is an aberration, and that is fact without applying ANY moral qualification to it at all.

and before anyone tells me earthworms are bisexual or some shit, notice I kept my ideas within the realm of mammals.

 

It has to work that way often enough to keep the species going, that's all.

If a human population shortage ever develops, the conversation about homosexuality will need to change. None of us will live to see that. Same can be said about masturbation and birth control, even abstinence.

 

Yep, just like was said two thousand years ago in the Bible when those people were wanting to up their numbers.


I cannot believe people actually think what people wrote in that ancient book applies to us today.