This is how freedom dies.

They're not literally lawless but A LOT less regulation contextually speaking. Latin countries for example. Also Russia has great wealth, due in part to little regulation, organized crime that is overlooked by the government and kickbacks.

 

Nobody owns land. You don't really own anything. It's just a facade. You will leave here with the same possessions you got here with.

 

So is the woman in black a police officer? I don't get it. It doesn't especially look like anyone is being arrested.

 

Thats right Because the government retains the right of eminent domain. They can seize your land if they please and there is little hope contesting it.

 

Im talking excessive speeding type law breaking, In that type of sense.

 

Ownership by itself means reduction of freedom.
And what about the state, did they work hard for the land?

What if I don't want to live in Greenland, but close to my friends and family?
Need I be separated from them just to live a livestyle that is not common or even accepted in our current society?

 

I've been to lots of Latin countries and I can't say they were more lawless than any other countries.

 

Everyone is living on borrowed/leased time, Plain and simple. Some gain through generations, Some leave nothing behind.

 

This is sort of what I meant about people not wanting to make sacrifices. You can't just do whatever you want... but that has never been an option for human beings for most of our existence.

If people were really unhappy with the way things are, they would do something about it. But even though people complain, they don't want to lose what they have. In the west they keep us just happy enough so that we don't get restless. We're not being oppressed... we're being placated.

And really... if everything were 'free', how would you decide who got to live on the best land? Why would you deserve it more than all of the other people who wanted to live there?

 

Interesting because I would say the United States has a lot more regulation than lets say.. Mexico and Portugal.

Heroin usage was decriminalized in Portugal, its not in the USA.

 

Making sacrifices is not exactly freedom.
I know a lot of people who complain about their lives, but they just can't/won't change it and go along because society dictates it.

I think we are being oppressed, but we are conditioned to believe we are free. Indeed, so we don't get restless.

 

Iran is not the ruthless taliban police state you 911ers think is..

 

That's just once aspect, the law is ofcourse much broader. In the Netherlands, for example, marijuana is decriminalized. That fact alone does not make me believe that it is a more lawless country than our neighbour Germany.

 

I agree. I have Iranian friends here in New York and they can be very pleasant cultured people (aside from the hillbilly versions).

Also, a friend described his mother (and her sister's) freedom and desire to lead the traditional Islamic lifestyle. Some women actually love the Quran's teaching. Look at the American women who convert for love, they genuinely love it. What right is it of mine to judge how they choose to live?

 

So what do you want, exactly? If there were no ownership, everyone would fight over the best pieces of land. Anyone could cut down all the trees and sell them. They could dump garbage into your back yard and you wouldn't be able to do anything about it. They could blow up your house because it's on land that doesn't belong to you.

I don't think most people think they're free... but they're free enough to be relatively happy, and that's all that really matters. They're free to buy things and do things that they know are bad for the planet. If anything, we have too much freedom these days.

 

Comparing Germany to Mexico is like apples to oranges.

 

I do not want anything. I am just reasoning that we don't really have freedom.

 

I didn't compare them, it was just an example. The point was that just because you can do this or that in a certain country does not mean the country itself is more or less lawless.

 

I was looking for the article behind the picture. All I found was something about the morality police and a link to the photographers website.
You should not judge a book by it's cover (or one picture) - but morality police? Wtf.

 

Again, keep it in context. I'm talking about to a fellow New Yorker (Pressed_Rat) about the US compared to other places. South Africa, Brazil, Colombia, Russia, Somalia- all virtually lawless compared to the US. Places where obedience to law is not as enforced (which is what he expressed tire with-obeying the law).