This election is staged.

Discussion in 'Conspiracy' started by OregonHerbalist, Jun 19, 2008.

  1. tra1lerpark rasta

    tra1lerpark rasta Senior Member

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    funny ass picture
    but seriously we need a demo pres.
    pronto
     
  2. Hiram Joseph Yates

    Hiram Joseph Yates Hip Forums Supporter HipForums Supporter

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    Hiptastic

    You have more time for your sometimes obtuse comments, than I have for my clear ones. However, if you will put "North American Union and Business Leaders" in Google you will find a report by Judicial Watch that quotes a document it acquired from the Commerce Department under the Freedom of Information Act that specifies an effort to involve business leaders in the formation of a North American commercial arrangement among the U.S., Canada, and Mexico leading to a variety of common treatments of businesses of the three countries, which is the way you prepare for movement toward a binding North American Union. The European Union began this way. It is currently a somewhat weak government, but if it gets its new constitution, which Ireland has momentarily stopped, it will enhance its powers tremendously. I really do not think you are so naive as to believe everything governments and their cohorts in business do is done in the light of day so all can see. Transparency in politics and commerce is opaque.

    You will also find a variety of believable and not so believable statements by newspapers and magazines regarding the formation of the NAU when you google the term noted. I suspect you despise Lou Dobbs who does an excellent job documenting this effort to create a NAU! Don't know if you do, but I assume so.

    I can't see sitting here and reproducing such a plethora of comments as these sources in Google provide.

    Might I suggest in all honesty and I hope fairness that you read over what you write and see if it really applies to the point you are trying to make. For Example, your statement regarding "X is true," asking someone to Google a term is not asking for a great deal of searching, just reading. Google does the searching.

    This will be my last comment on the subject. I learned long ago that it is impossible to argue with a person who wallows in their own rectitude.
     
  3. Hiptastic

    Hiptastic Unhedged

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    All I asked for was evidence, and I am continually told that although there is an enormous amount of evidence, you can't be bothered to provide any.
    That is an extremely roundabout way of saying it, why not just quote it and give me a link? Its rather obvious you are being evasive.
    I live in Europe and am a little too familiar with the EU to fall for that.
    But Lou Dobbs never came up with anything either. If Lou Dobbs gets on TV and says he's worried about a NAU, that doesn't prove there is a NAU. You are running in circles. If Lou Dobbs found some actual evidence, then tell me what he found.
    How about one?
    OK, rather than making an argument, I'll tell you to google "NAU + myth", and read through all the articles that show how the NAU is a ridiculous hoax created by fearmongers. Don't worry, google does the searching, you just have to do the reading.
    Its funny that after so many posts, you failed to provide a single piece of evidence. Not one. You acted as if that was an unreasonable request, that you were offended to even be asked.

    Typical conspiracy theorist.
     
  4. sunyatasamsara

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    Everyone should vote for Mike Gravel or Ron Paul cause they are the best for the position and the only ones who are not owned by big business. The media acts like Gravel doesnt exist they never showed him once and he is a democratic candidate.
     
  5. def zeppelin

    def zeppelin All connected

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    Politicians use appeal to fear and appeal to emotion very often. Politicians say one thing and do another. Is that an accident? Why would Obama and McCain share the same ideas? Yes, I know what they all say in public, and I know how people can believe that they truly don't share the same agenda, but all you have to do is to look at their voting record. What are they supporting and why? Why do people get so upset if someone is 'anti-Israel'? Trying to make a comparison to see which country is worse, Israel or Palestine. Isn't it clear that they're both wrong, that they're both handling the situation very poorly?

    Why support the Patriot Act, Homegrown Terrorism Act, Military Commissions Act, Homeland Security Act, Surveillance Act, Wiretapping? Why isn't that alarming anyone?

    Why is it that corporate media is considered trustworthy and not something that is public and open to everyone. Why is the media a business?

    http://www.senate.gov/legislative/L...ote_cfm.cfm?congress=110&session=2&vote=00168

    Obama promised to vote against that act, yet he voted for it, and McCain didn't even bother to vote (campaigning or not, you should do your job).

    Why are we even looking to goto war with Iran?

    What about the B52 bomber that transported a nuclear weapon? The soldiers the refused to transport all died by a car accident three months later the incident, and reportedly, there is a nuke out there that is missing... People were fired. Why isn't any of this alarming.
     
  6. def zeppelin

    def zeppelin All connected

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    Also, many reporters are being kicked out of Iraq for supposedly conveying a negative image of the war. This may be true, and it may not be true. Can we please all look into this?
     
  7. Zorba The Grape

    Zorba The Grape Gavagai?

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    We've got a live one!
     
  8. def zeppelin

    def zeppelin All connected

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    What? I am asking honest questions. Why isn't any of that investigated? No one is even trying to answer me.

    Why was the B52 bomber incident not a more serious news report?

    Stop and think.
     
  9. Zorba The Grape

    Zorba The Grape Gavagai?

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    That was a compliment. It's a good thing to be alive, and by extension sentient and thinking. Although zombies are very stylish nowadays, I feel they lack substance, and I continue to encourage people to live and think, no matter what others tell them.
     
  10. def zeppelin

    def zeppelin All connected

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  11. def zeppelin

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    A quote from a close friend of mine that I know online. He is an Iraq war veteran, and him and I were discussing whether or not war was inevitable. This is the answer that he has given to me. I showcase this to show to everyone how its possible to have so much direct experience in something and still be wrong about what is truly happening.

    "War will never end and to think that is just down right ignorant. As long as people can think and act on there own there will always be war. Trust me Mike there is nothing more than I would love than to see war just go away. If you think I enjoy being completely mind fucked by the things I have seen and done then you are very wrong.

    You are correct on one thing, the whole country of Iraq isn't out to get us damn "infidels" but trust me when I say this to you, you couldn't walk down 75% of the streets in Iraq and not get killed. Either by Al Quada or some random sect Sunni or Shitte that hates you because you where born here.

    Sure civilians arn't supposed to get killed in war but it happens and if you think our service men are over there merely killing for shits and giggles you are VERY VERY wrong. I know there has been instances of that happening over there, hell it happend in my AO but it's not all of us. Just like when Mike said all muslims don't wish us dead, not all service men kill for fun.

    Mike I enlisted in the Corp because I felt that I owed a debt to my country. All this anit american BS really does get me riled up. I mean for fucks sake, I don't want to beat a dead horse here, but seriously if you think our country is so fucked up and wrong with just about everything we do, why don't you move to Europe? Apparently it's all strawberry fields and peace loving beatniks over there so why don't you join 'em? Or better yet why don't you move to Iraq? I mean not all Muslims hate us, I'm sure all your westernized asses would be just fine but when you get there I beg of you not to stop a military convoy and ask for help when you've just been shot or had your fucking legs blown off by an IED because we know that we aren't there to help but we are there to fuck shit up."

    you couldn't walk down 75% of the streets in Iraq and not get killed. Either by Al Quada or some random sect Sunni or Shitte that hates you because you where born here.

    - We invade their country, and they want us out of there. What would happen if the same were to happen to America? Would we embrace them with open arms or start up rebellions? I believe these terrorists groups are for the most part to rebel against the foreign invaders and the foreign invaders are us.

    As long as people can think and act on there own there will always be war.

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    Are people truly thinking on their own, or are their opinions those of their leaders? I hold a firm belief that people only want war due to ignorance, and if you remove the ignorance then you remove the need for war. Most people don't want war. I trust in humanity enough to know that common sense prevails, but only when there is room for such a thing to prevail.


    If you think I enjoy being completely mind fucked by the things I have seen and done then you are very wrong.

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    Of course he does not enjoy any of this. Why would he?


    all muslims don't wish us dead, not all service men kill for fun.

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    I agree with this statement. Also, it is a fact that many recruits for the war have a history of being unstable, so there is a part of the military where many soldiers really do kill for 'shits and giggles'. But I also understand that there are many level-headed, well-meaning people in the US military. The question has to be asked, though, does good intentions always lead to good ends?


    why don't you move to Europe?

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    Why do I need to move to another country when this country can simply improve on itself?

    I'm sure all your westernized asses would be just fine but when you get there I beg of you not to stop a military convoy and ask for help when you've just been shot or had your fucking legs blown off by an IED

    - Even more reason to leave Iraq.
     
  12. Dave_techie

    Dave_techie I call Sheniangans

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    it COULD be that every president since, oh, lets say, grant, has been more or less a puppet. (probably earlier, but grant is the first it is convenient to research the puppetry of)

    it COULD be the campaign finance, and the companies that are backing them are those they have either doe favors for, or are expected to do favors for.

    it could be the immense boon that being an ex president tends to be towards someone's financial situation.

    or, of course, it could be that their platforms are subject to the whims of the convention, their candidacy is contingent upon being a good party man, maintaining power in Washington means trading, usually trading a signed pork bill for a piece of legislation that you want.

    thinking they are not puppets is shallow, naive, and a bit foolish.
     
  13. IntoTheRabbitHole

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    Is the election a stage?

    I would say so... I mean, come on... Am I really supposed to believe that, we the people, couldn't come up with two better candidates than Obama and McCain... Jesus Fucking Christ... I want a President that thinks for himself...

    Ron Paul made the most sense to me... But, shit, he got about two minutes to talk at one debate and then totally wasn't invited to the next... I think it was a Fox debate that he wasn't invited to...

    I say fuck this rigged election bullshit... Let's get everyone to write in "Johnny Depp" just to see if it is rigged or not... And on the plus side, if it works, Johnny Depp will be are next president... How sweat would that be?... JOHNNY FUCKING DEPP! :cheers2:
     
  14. def zeppelin

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    I would like to see a scientist, philosopher, or someone equally very thoughtful as our president.
     
  15. armed_with_a_mind

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    i dont get it plz explain this picture to me :D
     
  16. Zorba The Grape

    Zorba The Grape Gavagai?

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    You don't get it? God...
     
  17. def zeppelin

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    How can you overlook the phoniness of politicians? (not all)

    Astounding.
     
  18. Aristartle

    Aristartle Snow Falling on Cedars Lifetime Supporter

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    Well, I think it's fair to question the notion that your vote even counts now that election results are based on a FPTP system and electronic voting is highly unreliable given the 2000 election.
     
  19. hippiehillbilly

    hippiehillbilly the old asshole

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    ya think??



    full article here,
    http://www.infowars.com/?p=3456
     
  20. Hiram Joseph Yates

    Hiram Joseph Yates Hip Forums Supporter HipForums Supporter

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    Has this thread ended? The election isn't over is it? Cheers, Rip Van Winkle.


    P.S. Did a Rothschild or a Rockefeller win?


    BTW hippie hillbilly, where did you get the cartoon of Obama on a string? Is it original with you?
     

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