I'll read what you have to say, but to say that Bush did and is doing the right thing with the war in Iraq the way you have and comparing it to Noah's Ark should be a skit on Comedy Central. If he's a man of such moral faith, why does he support China, which is widely known to be the single greatest violater of human rights in the world. You're pro-life - the Chinese government encourages abortion if a woman is pregnant with a baby girl. Why is he pro capital punishment? Why does he allow a secretary of defense remain in office after it has been proven that he condoned torture of innocent human beings? George Bush and man of faith don't go hand in hand, I'm sorry. Wake up, there isn't enough time in the day for Bush to confess for all of his mounting sins against humanity.
Yeah I recall it...I also recall that those were acts of GOD himself, not some lame assed shrub who's allowed to get away with murder because certain people are impressed that he attends church on occasion.
The contradictions of the religious right are so glaringly obvious that they almost blind you into a sense of surrealism. Jesus saves, and fuck the poor. The most recent in Bush's string of lies: HE SAID HE WOULD RENEW THE ASSAULT WEAPONS BAN! HE PROMISED!!! Yet another lie.
Ok, first I just thought you were ignorant, but now I think your insane, trying to claim that "God" is For the war, how the hell can you tell whether "God" is for this war or not. You sound a lot like Bush and his Fake-Christian, Neo-Nazi, Klan. Peace and Love, Dan
Read through GWB's resume besides the fact that he loves Dick, but hates homosexuals. He's done numerous things that make him unworthy to be the president of the United States of America. He is not any true American's President. He wasn't even elected by the majority of our country. He's an idiot son of an asshole. The George W. Bush Resume Past work experience: Ran for congress and lost. Produced a Hollywood slasher B movie. Bought an oil company, but couldn't find any oil in Texas, company went bankrupt shortly after he sold all his stock. Bought the Texas Rangers baseball team in a sweetheart deal that took land using tax-payer money. Biggest move: Traded Sammy Sosa to Chicago. With fathers help (and his name) was elected Governor of Texas. Accomplishments: Changed pollution laws for power and oil companies and made Texas the most polluted state in America. Replaced Los Angeles with Houston as the most smog-ridden city in the U.S. Cut taxes and bankrupted the Texas government to the tune of billions in borrowed money. Set record for most executions by any Governor in American history. Accomplishments as president: First president in US history to enter office with a criminal record. In his first two years in office over 2 million Americans lost their job. Members of Bush cabinet are the richest administration in history. (the 'poorest' multi-millionaire, Condoleeza Rice has a Chevron oil tanker named after her). Spent the surplus and bankrupted the treasury. Shattered record for biggest annual deficit in history. Set economic record for most private bankruptcies filed in any 12 month period. Set all-time record for biggest drop in the history of the stock market. First year in office set the all-time record for most days on vacation by any president in US history. After taking the entire month of August off for vacation, presided over the worst security failure in US history. Cut unemployment benefits for more out of work Americans than any president in US history. Set the all-time record for most foreclosures in a 12 month period. Appointed more convicted criminals to administration positions than any president in US history. Signed more laws and executive orders amending the Constitution than any president in US history. Cut healthcare benefits for war veterans. Dissolved more international treaties than any president in US history. Presided over the biggest corporate stock market fraud of any market in any country in the history of the world. Set the all-time record for biggest annual budget spending increases, more than any president in US history. · Withdrew from the World Court of Law. Refused to allow inspectors access to US prisoners of war and by default no longer abide by the Geneva Conventions. First president in US history to refuse United Nations election inspectors (during the 2002 US elections). All-time US (and world) record holder for most corporate campaign donations. First president in US history to unilaterally attack a sovereign nation against the will of the United Nations and the world community. First president to run and hide when the US came under attack (and then lied saying the enemy had the code to Air Force 1) First US president to establish a secret shadow government. Took the biggest world sympathy for the US after 911, and in less than a year made the US the most resented country in the world (possibly the biggest diplomatic failure in US and world history). Fist US president in history to have a majority of the people of Europe (71%) view his presidency as the biggest threat to world peace and stability. Changed US policy to allow convicted criminals to be awarded government contracts. Set all-time record for number of administration appointees who violated US law by not selling huge investments in corporations bidding for government contracts. Failed to fulfill pledge to get Osama Bin Laden 'dead or alive'. Failed to capture the anthrax killer who tried to murder the leaders of our country at the United States Capitol building. After 18 months there are no leads or suspects. In the 18 months following the 911 attacks he has successfully prevented any public investigation into the biggest security failure in the history of the United States. Entered office with the strongest economy in US history and in less than two years turned every single economic category heading straight down.
You know what sucks about this? The other day moonjava was online, so I clicked her name and she was viewing this thread, and she stayed on it for at least 20 minutes. She obviously didn't post though, she's going to pretend like she never saw it or that she's too good and smart to reply....and in another few weeks she'll post another ignorant thread like this one. She didn't learn shit. She doesn't want to. She just wants to be right, and then run away whenever someone hits her with some info she can agrue logically against. She's trying to start shit. That's why I don't even bother posting in any of the political forums anyomre, there are just too many people like her out there who aren't interesting in learning anything, who only come here in order to push their own opinions as truth and then bail out when they can't back them up. I get tired of bickering for no reason.
I want Bush back in office because he has faith "We have faith, deep and unshakeable faith, that he (Hitler) was sent to us by God." --Hermann Göring "We have faith that he [Bush] was sent to us by God." -- TFR "I shall some day stand before the judgement seat of the Eternal. I shall answer to Him, and I know he will judge me innocent." --Rudolf Hess "I answer only to God." --George W. Bush "God save Germany" -Joachim Ribbentrop, his last words before his hanging. "God bless America" -Republicans everywhere. "Understanding sometimes is not enough to explain something. Only faith is sufficient." --Robert Ley, Hitler's Reichorganisationsleiter "All I know is that I am voting for George Bush." -any random Republican "We have a feeling that Germany has been transformed into a great house of God, including all classes, professions and creeds." --Joseph Goebbels "We are a Godly nation." -any random Republican "You are soldiers who have to carry out every order unconditionally. You have a responsibility before God." ---Heinrich Himmler, to the SS Enlist, go kill for Jesus. Don't ask me to come bail you out when you're up to your ass in "ter ists."
Comparing Bush and the Republicans to Hitler and the Nazis, why don't you just compare Kerry and the Democrats to Stalin and the Communists.
I'm still waiting for your response on these issues Moonjava. It completely blows my mind that you find that Bush is a man of good faith when almost every thing he does outside of going to church on Sunday, is completely corrupt and full of sin. Only the deaf, dumb and blind would look at Bush and say he is a man of good faith. Almost everything that he does contradicts Christianity.
I don't know why we support China, but it probably has something to do with their million man army, ya think? Look, I know Bush isn't perfect, but he can't control everything that happens in the world. Yes I am pro life, but how can Bush try to tell China not to do something when it is legal here in the states. At least his heart is in the right place when it comes to the abortion issue, and stopping partial-birth abortions was a wonderful thing even though he may not be able to make abortions illegal. Kerry openly supports abortion and the slaughtering of unborn life for pointless embryonic stem cell research. I don't have all the answers for you as far as the torturing of innocent humans goes. That really is a horrible thing, but you can't prove that Kerry would have fired him, either. I am also for capital punishment. I think people ought to know they will have severe consequences to their actions. If not, what kind of chaos would we live in?
A lot of times I am doing 4 or 5 different things online at once. If I was on this thread for 20 minutes, I might have only glanced at it before moving on to something else. Also, I don't have the greatest connection in the world, so it is possible that I got disconnected when I was going to post something. Please, stop assuming you know everything. If you don't like debate or reading about ideas that are not your own, then I think you're right. Political discussions are not right for you. By the way, when was the last time a liberal gave in to my beliefs and accepted them as their own? Name one person who hasn't tried to push their opinions over on me as truth... please... I challenge you. And yes, this really is a lot of bickering for no reason. It's called... oh yeah... POLITICS! LoL Actually, none of us believe that what we are saying is for no reason, but our views matched up against a bunch of opposite views does lead to pointless bickering. It's not a simple thing to change someone's mind. Please don't get so bent out of shape over my posts. Put me on ignore if they stress you out that bad. Peace Have a better day.
No one forgot about 911, your constant insistance to relate 911 with the current war in Iraq is unfounded and wrong, and is a horrible black stain on the memories of the people who died there. Im sorry, but the fact is that Al Queda was not involved with Iraq. Lets all learn that. The Al Queda leaders and Saddam did meet in the 90's, but no deal was struck, and it was reported that the leaders of both groups were not fond of each other. Here is a link to the response the White House had after the 911 commision put out there info stating there was no connection. This is from Fox news. http://www.foxreno.com/news/3429848/detail.html This link is an article after Cheney tried to say he "probably" had access to the same info the commision did, implying that the commision "probably" had better information. No. http://www.cnn.com/2004/ALLPOLITICS/07/06/cheney.911/
I'd hardly compare a little guy taking out a giant with a rock to a world power dropping bombs on innocent civillians, but if they're muslim, they probably deserve it. I guess you're entitled to your own opinion. As far as the china thing goes, if you think bush can't control who he deals with, them why do we place sanctions against certain countries who are no threat to our way of life (like cuba) when countries like china are free to continue doing the shit they do with absolutely nothing done about it? PS...your posts don't offend me, so don't flatter yourself. I'm just not into arguing with sheep...take that as you like. You can stoop to insulting me or anything else you like, I know it's only because you (and people like you) have no valid arguments for what you think. I don't blame you for it though.
Yes but God works through people. Maybe a better example would be David and Goliath. You do know your mythology. But mythology has no scientific validity. Not that you seem to have any idea what that even means...
Comparing Bush and the Republicans to Hitler and the Nazis The comparison is a fair one, and I can prove it with just two words: Lies War That pretty much wraps up that argument.
He has weapons of mass destruction, and is hearing voices. Pretty creepy if you ask me. "I've heard the call. I believe God wants me to run for president." --George W. Bush "But there is something else I believe, and that is that there is a God... And this God again has blessed our efforts during the past 13 years." --Adolf Hitler "God told me to strike at al Qaeda and I struck them. And then he instructed me to strike at Saddam, which I did." --George W. Bush (NOTE: this was such a frightening comment that reporters contacted the White House seeking confirmation or denial, and they would not do either). "I would like to thank Providence and the Almighty for choosing me of all people to be allowed to wage this battle for Germany. I follow the path assigned to me by Providence with the instinctive sureness of a sleepwalker" --Adolf Hitler "I trust God speaks through me. Without that, I couldn't do my job." --George W. Bush "The mercy of the Lord slowly returns to us again. And in this hour we sink to our knees and beseech our almighty God that he may bless us, that He may give us the strength to carry on the struggle for the freedom, the future, the honor, and the peace of our people." --Adolf Hitler "Our new faith-based laws have removed government as a roadblock to people of faith who hear the call." --George W. Bush
The thing is, that George Bush the first sold weapons to Saddam before and during his war with Iran. During that war Bush sold wepons to both sides. A dictator is left alone by the US as long as they play by the rules and are friendly. For some facts not told by the mainstream media go to www.war-times.org