Thin Privilege

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  1. themnax

    themnax Senior Member

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    the lizard who can regrow its tail, could say the same thing about humans.
    and there ARE some people who's bodies actually won't let them loose weight and live, EXACTLY the same way, humans don't generally regrow an arm.
     
  2. Karen_J

    Karen_J Visitor

    Are you saying that it's possible for someone to starve to death while they're still fat? I call bullshit on this one. Unless someone has some sort of extremely rare medical condition that I've never heard of, if you don't consume anything but vitamins and water, you WILL lose weight.

    Rationalizations like that make me angry.

    As an ultra-thin person, how do YOU feel about all this?
     
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  3. secret_thinker

    secret_thinker Lifetime Supporter Lifetime Supporter

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    1) from a surgical aspect of medical care it wouldn't matter if you are fat or thin, if you are a high a anaesthetic risk a surgeon wouldn't want to risk their license to operate. I think denial of medical treatment can go for either category.
    2) clothing options exist for larger people.
    3) is this more of a confidence issue?
    4) I can see how that would be assumed, people assume a lot of things when they don't know all the facts.

    Do I think thin people have an advantage? No.
    I'm middle of the way, I would like to be thinner but I also enjoy too much food :D
     
  4. thedope

    thedope glad attention Lifetime Supporter

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    As far as advantage and disadvantage of any particular form what we generally experience is being human creature. But we are attracted to shiny things, objects of interest. everyone has different interests and some interests conflict if brought together. So what you experience in sense of poor style reflects a conflict of interest, and conflicts are as conflicting as they are to everyone. So we in fact possess a common estate and a common challenge to find accord with our interest and feed our families.
     
  5. themnax

    themnax Senior Member

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    lies that pretend to be simple make ME angry. ultra thin people are just as unhealthy as over weight ones. to me they look like zombies.
    medical conditions ARE what i was referring to. and while they may be less common then obesity, they're NOT all THAT rare.
     
  6. Karen_J

    Karen_J Visitor

    Name one example.
     
  7. thedope

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    No snax, you are angry about your interpretation of the world.
    You see a monster that is not real and statistics that are only impressions. Your level of enjoyment in life will improve if you learn to apprehend things clearly.
    There is a difference between what we are taught learning is and what it is we learn. Regardless what is taught and tested for, we learn what we want to learn.
    So end your weary disgusted nightmares about the world realize you've never seen a thing clearly in your life and learn about the world all over again instead of being told what you should see.
     
  8. themnax

    themnax Senior Member

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    i'm not an effing doctor. ask yours. before you go spreading the evil of self serving prejudice.
     
  9. themnax

    themnax Senior Member

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    the monster that is real, the ONLY "monster" that is real, is aggressiveness and ego. i have no idea what you are talking about nor on what basis you accuse me of it, other then finding some perverse pseudo-gratification in doing so. statistics and diversity are the only nature reality has.
     
  10. thedope

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    You didn't provide any statistics.
     
  11. Karen_J

    Karen_J Visitor

    Fuck you.
     
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  12. Asmodean

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    Well you are right that people who have a hard time losing weight and keep that extra weight off will lose it while they are on a diet of water and vitamins. But what is the point of such a diet when they gain it again once they're on an average normal diet? They don't eat extra or unhealthy, they just eat like you and me but gain weight. Shit happens to some people. They gain weight from the smallest portions where others do fine. It is unhealthy for them to stay on water, vitamins and just some veggies for instance.
     
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  13. Karen_J

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    The key issue here is the word "normal". Some people can't eat what would be considered a normal diet for you and me. Everybody has some level of average daily calorie intake that will balance their calorie burn and result in a more or less steady weight, and it's always higher than zero. Every breath you take and every heartbeat consumes some energy, which has to come from somewhere. People can find their own number by experimentation. They might not like that number, but I can't help them with that. It is what it is.

    Have you noticed that most Westerners treat even the slightest sensation of hunger like it's a tragedy and an emergency? That's partly a cultural thing. Nobody enjoys feeling hungry when they have money in their pockets for food, but some of us, maybe most of us mature adults, need to subject ourselves to it to some degree, if we truly want to be in control of our weight.
     
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  14. Asmodean

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    I see fat people that do not act upon such slight sensations. They eat less calories than me (and probably you too, but I dunno) because they desperately want to become thinner. They certainly spend more time on physical exercise than me and are more busy with becoming in control of their weight than me. They just gain more weight after one normal meal than us, whatever they do.
    Not every fat person is out of control in terms of lack of discipline or giving in to easy sensations more than you or me. A lot of them are, I think that too. But not nearly all of them
     
  15. Meliai

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    while I agree thin doesn't equate to healthy, I think your comparison to zombies illustrates exactly why I call bullshit on this whole thin privilege thing. I've spent a large chunk of my life being extremely thin and the comments people would make about it were actually pretty insane. I would never dream about saying something negative to a fat person about the way they look, but fat people never hesitated to make me feel horrible about the way I looked.



    I am still slender but more of a normal weight now, and I look pretty good...and you know what? I earned it. I eat healthy and I exercise and being healthy caused me to put on the extra lbs I needed. So if thin privilege exists then I earned it, and the kicker is MOST overweight people can earn it as well. The majority of people who are overweight can lose the weight with proper diet and exercise.
     
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  16. Lynnbrown

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    Excellent points...

    A person often doesn't see themselves as others see them, and environment is key here too.

    Such as myself...I would never consider myself other than average. However, where I work now (McD's) I actually do consider myself positively trim and definitely agile. The vast majority of women working with me, Not Men, (interestingly enough) are overweight to morbidly obese.

    They throw their weight around, and quite enjoy themselves with it, especially as I'm told and asked to bend down and get this or go fetch that. I certainly haven't experienced any privilege being in (what would be their) thin category, I can assure everyone.

    I KNOW a lot of this at work is because it is easier for me to do whatever, and I don't mind doing it...because I'm silently thinking you maybe wouldn't be such a fat-ass that can't bend down if you'd do Just Something.

    I would also rather set myself on fire before I ever said anything about all that to them

    That blog is just another way one of these huge women That Choose To Stay that way are running over those that are physically smaller.
     
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  17. YouFreeMe

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    I agree that overweight people experience some unfairness. It's been proven that doctors don't always take their problems as seriously as they might if a person was thin (they attribute all of their problems to weight). A lot of fat people deal with cruelty regularly. A close friend of mine is what might only be described as morbidly obese. Being around her and hearing people's comments, I sometimes can't believe how thoughtless other people act.

    On the other hand, every person I know has some sort of flaw that results in less-than-ideal treatment. Being short makes it difficult to find clothing, and so does being tall. Some folks have a physical flaw, like a big nose, that gets them ridiculed. Some people have darker skin, bad hair, are disabled, or suffer from acne, are too smart or not smart enough-whatever. I think everyone has some sort of "privilege" over someone else. I don't think fat privilege--if it exists--is more dire than an other shortcoming. It doesn't warrant any special attention or treatment. Everyone should just be as nice to one another as possible--that's common sense. But sometimes people don't get treated fairly--that's common sense, too.
     
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    you know what really grinds my gears. that Ive to stand in front an automatic door opener moving around like a fucking clown cause Im thin and practically invisible to the sensor...
     
  19. guerillabedlam

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    In pop culture, I'd say there is thin privilege.

    For every Adele, it seems there is about a dozen or so Taylor Swifts to arrive on the pop scene.

    Programs like "The Biggest Loser" act as a backhanded compliment to the participants, a judgement of character prior to the competition.

    I'm sure those type of messages can influence culture at large to some extent. The fact that most ads which are directed at females (primarily) and give 'unattainable' views of beauty and looks, (I put unattainable in quotations because I really don't follow that meaning, I've never preferred an ad picture over seeing a actual beautiful person) probably makes it difficult for thin women to feel much sympathy to the struggles of larger women.
     
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    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7PCkvCPvDXk
     
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