They ARE concentration camps

Oh ??? - was I supposed to laugh at your tasteless, sick joke ???

 

No.
The current policy is to separate all children from their families as a means of deterrence.
You're fooling yourself if you think they're just doing a temporary separation for the safety of the children. If that were the case there would be no need to veer from the policy and procedure of previous administrations.

The current policy is purposely cruel in order to act as a deterrence.

 

I wonder why the Nazis didn't use that as their justification for the Gas Chambers ???

 

You said something was biologically impossible cannot provide evidence. Burden of proof was in your court.

You're denying the legitimacy by attacking the source.

And you end with trivializing the situation by making a joke Okiefreak predicted two pages ago... Your post is a poster child of logical fallacies.

 

Jokes do not get more sick than when its at the expense of sauerkraut

 

Better clarify what you think the current US policy is.

You seem to be saying you think its non temporary. So are you saying you think they are permanently seperating kids from the families, as in forever

And are you saying in all cases?

 

The average length of child detainment has fluctuated between 60 and 90 days over the last several months
By law the maximum amount of time a child can stay in detainment is 72 hours.
The Trump administration is willfully disregarding the law, in other words.
And yes, the Trump administration said themselves it's a zero tolerance policy. Zero tolerance policy generally means in all cases

 

Meh, actually dont think it is

A) should only take a couple minutes of googling to find the answer

B) I actually want to know why a single photo of an emanciated border crosser doesnt exist. I already know the answer because an emanciated border crosser doesnt exist, one thats been through the detention centres thus fed properly anyway

Better for me If a let the question hang for another 10 pages

Not familiar with 'The Cut' but it seems to be a womens fashion magazine for the most part

Actually, dont think I was joking, Honduras to US is over 2000 miles

 

Come'on Mel, this 9 year old American girl was only detained two days.

Immigration Officials Snatch 9-Year-Old U.S. Citizen Heading To School, Hold Her For 2 Days | HuffPost

*Note: Actual left wing news source.

 

They must have wanted the illegals to work on Trump's golf courses.

 

No, its 72 hours for unaccompanied minors before they are handed over to the office or refugee resettlement, i.e further detainment

There is no law that says undocumented minors can only be detained for 72 hrs. You have thousand that have been in detention for more than 72 hours, and this has been the case for decades

The Trafficking Victims Protection Act was 2008, Homeland Security act 2002, Refugee act 1980, all well before Trump.

He signed an executive order freezing determinations for 120 days, but would not be able to "willfully disregard" those three acts

 

Yeah, Im sure 18 Marines risked multiple life sentences so patrons at a few golf courses could have cheap caddies

 

In October 2015, CBP released the “National Standards on Transport, Escort, Detention, and Search” (TEDS) policy, defining short-term detention as the “temporary detention of a person at a CBP facility for the least amount of time necessary to complete processing, transfer, and/or repatriation”, and establishing that “detainees should generally not be held for longer than 72 hours in CBP hold rooms or holding facilities. Every effort must be made to hold detainees for the least amount of time required for their processing, transfer, release, or repatriation as appropriate and as operationally feasible.” The settlement agreement in Flores v. Reno requires the federal government to place children with a close relative or family friend “without unnecessary delay,” rather than keeping them in custody; and to keep immigrant children who are in custody in the “least restrictive conditions” possible. Border Patrol is not in compliance with its own rules, as the detention regularly exceeds its own the 72 hour limit found in TEDS. According to psychiatric authorities in your own part of the world, the Royal Australian and New Zealand College of Psychiatrists (RANZCP), 72 hours is the limit for detention of children and adolescents without psychological damage.
https://www.ranzcp.org/news-policy/...ent-library/children-in-immigration-detention
Limit detention to 72 hours for children and adolescents | RANZCP

 

Well what did they risk it for?

 

By which time you're hoping everyone will have forgotten about it or you can think up another cock and bull story.

 

Allegedly Bribery by the undocumented immigrants

 

I've seen this same line of questioning on various news forums. And as usual somebody always has an explanation for why these border-jumping illegal aliens are wearing Nike, Puma and New Balance shoes; they're "knock-offs" of course.

Then you ask why they are spotless and get crickets. I've also asked how on earth someone can trek a thousand miles and arrive in clean flip flops.

I predict by the next week or so the people arriving will be covered in dirt and wearing shoes fashioned from straw. However, I don't think it's possible to make them look like they have been starving the whole way. Unless they start loading their water with magnesium sulfate about 500 miles below the border. By the time they arrive, they should be much skinnier.

I know this is going to piss a few folks off, heck I do that just by being here. But you really do have to take a step back and see that these peasants are being used by power-hungry assholes who have found a way to score a buck out of their misery. Which is enhanced by telling them stories of gold clad streets and an easy life of leisure. Since, after all, Americans don't actually work (everybody knows this).

The same kind of tactics have been used to con people out of government housing projects by luring them to the suburbs with tales of easy living.

 

About why poor people from 3rd world countries see the USA through rose colored glasses: that's mainly how 'the land of the free' has profiled themselves with all their might to both national citizens and internationally. The land where everybody can live their dream if they work on it, the land of limitless opportunities etc.

 

This seems to be the logical fallacy known as question begging (as in: when did you stop beating your wife?)--the questions here being are "they" "spotless"? Are all or most wearing Nike, Puma and New Balance shoes?. So far, we've been shown seven pairs of dangling legs, presumably male, belonging to unidentified persons, purportedly refugees, wearing nice gym shoes. (Post #283). This reminds me of Reagan's "welfare queen" portrayal of people on government assistance. Through the wonders of selective photography, right wing media were trying to convince us early on that the refugees were mostly able bodied men. If the allegations of spotless clothes and swanky shoes are true, several possible explanations are possible: they have been supplied by charitable organizations, they were laundered along the way, the refugees rode most of the way instead of trekked, etc. My question is: what is your explanation? Do you think there were no caravans? Are these crisis actors left over from the last alleged mass shooting? Apparently not, since you go on to say "these peasants are being used". Remember, too, that the thread is about conditions of detention for the refugees, not how they were dressed when they arrived. So let's cut to the chase: what is it that you're trying to say?

It doesn't piss me off. I suspect that it's a significant factor in the migrations. The coyotes and outfits like Pueblo sin Fronteras deserve scrutiny in this regard. But it's hard to argue that Honduras and El Salvador aren't crime infested places.

 

People like to say that illegal immigrants don't take jobs away. They do.

My sister had a landlord when she lived in Florida who boasted that he hired an illegal immigrant carpenter to renovate the kitchen of her rented home back in the mid 90s. He allowed the illegal to reside in the home during the renovation, and paid him $3 per hour (which is $5.05 adjusted to inflation). Carpentry is a skilled profession that will never be sent overseas. That job to remodel the kitchen, and many others like that, was outsourced for cheap illegal labor.

They say that illegal immigrants will work low paying difficult jobs that "no American would take." Again this is BS. Back in the 1940s, the city of Portland used to have a service called the Berry Bus. The Berry Bus would shuttle the inner city poor, and unskilled youth out to the farmlands to pick berries and harvest crops. They would get paid based on yielded quantity. Farm work is tedious and difficult, but Americans were willing to work those jobs. But now with a welfare system, they have less incentive to work the fields to build themselves a reputation and work experience.

I remember when my ex-senator Gordon Smith got in trouble when it was discovered that illegals were working in his frozen food factory. Democrats raked him over the coals for that one. Now, they wanna give the same illegals free healthcare and a 3-strike rule in sanctuary cities. Thereby prioritizing them over destitute Americans and veterans.