They ARE concentration camps

Yeah, but I dont say asinine stuff like there were Apaches there before the white man

Blue state special ed class I think I'm dealing with

 

One thing is clear you don’t seem to have a firm grasp of what’s going on here in America.

 

Double the number of them trying to get over the border compared to last year, because they all think Trump is going to make America great again

 

No, I am talking about your unfortunate forefathers who were forcibly dislocated to Australia under tragic, degrading conditions and had to endure high mortality rates, starvation, hardship and great suffering compared to which the Venezuelan immigrants at present are in some sort of paradise.

Hopefully study of the conditions under which your forefathers lived then would develop empathy in you for suffering humanity.

 

You have a very valid point. While the vast majority of people crossing the border are honest and happy to work, an open border policy leaves the country wide open to terrorists, drug dealers and all types of criminal undesirables.
History has shown us that accepting people that their home country is pleased to get rid of never turns out well.

 

England is not particularly proud of the way that we deported people in those times, but you have to remember that it was frequently an alternative to a death sentence.

 

There is possibly some middle ground between open borders and prison camps.

 

no, don't be silly lode.
that's far too radical an idea.

 

I would say the best way is to end the sanctions or reduce its severity so that the common people are not affected and can continue with their daily lives.

Forced isolation of the economy, followed by food shortages and other issues will obviously force any people out as refugees.

This can happen to any country, even western ones in the event of a nuclear holocaust between the U.S., Europe and Russia.

 

If there was no detention at the boarder - if the boarder were wide open - what would things look like?

How would the refugees be integrated into this society?

What would the other solution look like?

What is the alternative answer?

 

Now this is where the rubber meets the road!

 

He doesn't have to live with the consequences, so it's only an academic exercise to him.

 

Same could be said about many of you who don't live near the border.

 

Yeah, because the institution of concentration camps in America surely doesn't effect all Americans.

 

I realize this is a conservative source and have no illusions that a similar social experiment could not be set up in the opposite way. But since the rhetoric is so strong towards appealing to emotion on this topic, I do find this social experiment interesting and a reminder of the biases people have.

 

Ah, is that the point he was trying to make.
To me that argument (why don't you take some refugees in in your own home?) never made sense. In fact, i hardly see it as an argument. Wtf is this question a thing? Seriously.
Now the point seems to be that they're likely criminals or that their home country is glad to be rid of them (what is this based on?), like IF certain americans would consider taking a few in their own home (which most won't, which is perfectly fine. Why should they??), they would do so blindly and without any discernment.
But it seems already bogus in the sense that if an american is for taking in latin american immigrants but wouldn't let any live in their house they're some kind of hypocrite or something. Yeah, really don't get this 'argument' AT ALL.
Is the personal home an analogy for the whole country or something? If so the analogy seems really off, kinda nonsensical. There are obviously big differences between the two and letting immigrants or refugees into either.

Please explain anyone who can be bothered. Many thanks in advance

 

People in that video weren't paying attention to the words he quoted, they heard "Trump Immigration Policy". It's difficult not to be polarized on issues in 2019. The left wing media calls them concentration camps, and the right wing media calls them play camps for pillaging hordes of heart cutters.

I live an work on the internet, but you know what I miss about pre-meme days? Nuance.

 

It's a thing that seems to make sense when you're dumb.

 

It's a thing that seems to make sense when you're dumb.

 

The thing is everybody gets heard on the internet. Which sounds really good at first, unless all the unnuanced angry talk get taken just as serious as nuanced remarks. It really shouldn't.
The peeps who blurt that shit out should of course not be completely ignored or left behind, as they seem a significant part of society, but not if they can only sound unnuanced and utterly nonsensical. That should not be catered to. Let the extremists yell at eachother if they really only wish to sound like that.