There is no such thing as "Conspiracy".

Discussion in 'Conspiracy' started by Yeal, Jun 9, 2008.

  1. Pahana

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    That's a contradiction, mate. You gotta pick one or the other. Either you believe in Darwin's bullshit and obsolete theory, or you believe that all humans were created equal.

    One thing I have to say about Yeal, we have to give him credit. No matter how much sense we try to knock into his thick little skull, he remains true to his ignorance. Well done, Yeal! You're officially the most stubborn 17 year old on this site! Perhaps someday you can start putting it to some productive use! Until then, keep posting your silly little messages up on here, the comedic relief is much needed during these turbulent times.
     
  2. odon

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    Why is it a contradiction?
    If we are all born equal we can still rise above others if we wish because we do not remain equal.
     
  3. Yeal

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    I really don't want to get into it, but just to clear things up, I believe in a Supreme Being. I do not conform to any religion in particular, but I believe that there is a 'God'.

    I also believe in evolution 100%. I believe that humans evolved through a long period of time to get to where we are today. I also believe that we are still evolving.

    Haha, watch Heroes, the TV show on NBC. That show has a lot on evolution, and the greater good. It's my current favorite show. Go figure.
     
  4. Yeal

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    Darwin's theory absolutely not bullshit. There's more evidence of evolution than there is for any conspiracy theory on the planet.

    Just by using logic and rational thought, you can just SEE that evolution obviously took place. Why do you think we have wisdom teeth? We obviously don't need them. But at one point we did! There was a point in human history when humans were forced to eat raw, tough animals to survive. And they chewed through the tough meat using their wisdom teeth. (Some people also think that wisdom teeth were used to grind bone, but I don't even think a caveman is dumb enough to just munch on a bone.
     
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  6. OlderWaterBrother

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    Just by using logic and rational thought?

    It's funny that someone that's supposed to believe in God and not believe conspiracy theories, believes in the ultimate conspiracy theory, Evolution.
     
  7. Crazy Horse

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    Wow, Yeal. I don't know where to begin. I have never in my life been subjected to such a torrent of ignorance... I'm quite overwhelmed. I would be quite unable to adequately address all of the bullshit you've posted here, but I'm impressed you read so much of that, so I do have a few things to say.
    First of all, none of the atrocities I've mentioned in passing here are fringe conspiracy theories, but a matter of historical record- clear, uncontroversial and available to anyone who's interested. One lovely thing about our information addicted culture is that this is available to anyone, and not just the academic elite. So claims to ignorance will not save you.
    If you are 17 years old, you would have been alive for the tail end of Bush 1's presidency... So this is not ancient history. Prior to his aggressions towards Iran, Saddam Hussein was an ally of the United States, "Our kinda guy" as one prominent politician called him. As a USA ally, he had a much greater capacity for genocide, and used it to the fullest. He killed far more people then, and the Gulf War had little or nothing to do with these crimes. There are any number of histories that cover these events in detail, and just because it's not a popular topic of discussion on Fox News or CNN doesn't mean it didn't happen. As you get older, Yeal, you must learn to gather information from a variety of sources to form an opinion.

    How is it that the repression of dissidents in North America an unproven conspiracy theory? Have you never heard of the Mcarthy era communist witch hunts? Counter-Intelligence Programs against the BPP, AIM, anti-war groups, and countless others? Animal rights activists today? Hell, if we haven't been repressed, how come we haven't overthrown anything yet?
    Reservation comunities are being poisoned, regardless of whether or not you choose to take notice. This is one of the great ironies of history- These sovergn territi=ories were in the process of being dissolved and sold to wealthy ranchers when it was discovered that they contain a large concentration of mineral resources. Since it was easier to expropriate them from poor indian communities then to buy them from said ranchers, the reservations were kept somewhat intact, the Beaurau of Indian Affairs created, and mining began. Rivers, air and soil are now poisoned, and the health of these comunities is now ruined forever.
    I am at a loss to adress your claim that the theft of Indian lands is an "unproven conspiracy theory", except to say that this is tantamount to holocaust denial, if I may be permitted to use such language in regards to events occuring on this continent.

    I don't know or care what ethnicity you are. Black and hispanic people can be as racist as anyone. Racism is discrimination or preconception based on race, and can include the assignment of charictaristics and roles based on race. This includes your statement about Middle Eastern people "getting in the way". People can have preconceptions about their own race, and even Jews led their own people into the ovens when provided the right incentive. It would perhaps have been more precise to call you a eurosupremacist, but given the historic dominance of whites within European culture, yes, you are a racist pig.
    We must remember that all terrible crimes in history are carried out under the pretence of some "greater good." But behind the friendly veneer, the patriotism, and in spite of positive outlooks, what your describing is facsism. Any greater good will be for an elite, at the expence of a hardworking poor. And such a social structure is not, has never, and will ever be stable. History has shown us this time and time again, and if you ever wish to expand your understanding of Darwin's theory of evolution beyond what you can learn from NBC's Heros, you may see that there's a firm basis for societies based on cooperation. The political are certainly no more evolved than the rest of us, any more than they are more hardworking or intelligent; and for that matter nor are we more so than our primitive ancestors.
    So instead of misrepresenting Charles Darwin and his work, why don't you just express yourself by posting transcripts of some of your favorite TV shows, and save us some of your half litterate garbage? That is, after all where you got your understanding of the world, and human nature? From what they said on TV?
     
  8. The Mushroom Man

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    I know absolutely nobodyreads my posts in here (except for Xexon, occasionally), but I'd just like to point out a few things. First of all, yeal, you are soo in the wrong part of the internet, I mean really, what teh hell possesed you to come to Hipforums in the first place, and especially this section of it? This is so obviously a uber-liberal forum filled with every kind of "wacko" you can imagine, so what the hell are you doing here? the internet as a whole is not the place for people like you (and often times people like me), but you jsut happened to start arguing endlessly with people in what very well may be the epicentre of all internet "lunacy" (not meant as an attack, just couldn't think of a better word lol).

    Secondly, evolution has been proven, maybe not in humans, but in numerous other organisms. Take malaria for example. 50-60 years ago, quinine did a fantastic job of preventing and treating malaria, not so any more. Also take mosquitoes. Back when we started using DDT to kill the little devils, it worked like a godsend, but by the time the gov't phased DDT out, there were numerous populations of mosquitoes that were immune to DDT and were not dying nearly as fast or as easily as previous generations.

    Thirdly, and what I really want to say the most, is that maybe, jsut maybe, the world can fucntion if we take a little from all sides of everything, and live in that beautiful middle spot between democrat and republican, religious and atheist, conspiracy-theorist and Yeal-type, you get the picture. Yeah, we don't need the gov't up everyones ass makin' sure we are doing the "right" thing all the time, but then again some form of governing body is good to have around in some form or another. Being an extremist doesn't get anybody anywhere. Being a hardliner is bad for everyone. Maybe the only good thing to be a radical about is being an anti-radical. Really, think about it. Pretty much all arguments, wars, conspiracies, you name it, were formed because of a radical. Fuck radicals of all kinds, everyone should just compromise in some ways, and we can prbably make the world work.

    Just thought I'd throw all that out there.

    The Mushroom Man
     
  9. Crazy Horse

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    On the contrary, it's always been radicals who've been responsible for change in our society.... What has ever gotten done by fence sitting?
     
  10. OlderWaterBrother

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    Actually evolution has quite a ways to go before being proven. What you show as proof is not evolution but adaptation. If it was evolution the organisms would have become something other than they were before but since they remain malaria and mosquitoes what you see is merely adaption.
     
  11. Yeal

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    Cool. Keep trying your hardest.
     
  12. Crazy Horse

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    That's it? I suppose I'm about finished then.
     
  13. Zorba The Grape

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    It makes him feel important to dismiss a long, well though-out post in five words.
     
  14. Yeal

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    Shut up, attention whore. You're almost as annoying as olderbrotherwater with your sneaky little comments.

    If you don't have anything positive to contribute, then shut the fuck up.



    To clear things up, I read all of crazy's post. He's exactly like I said before, the same. He's no different than any other CT I've seen. He just repeats what he hears on conspiracy sites, and I don't feel like dealing with it. Especially when you start off your post with a shitload of insults. (hypocrisy, lol.)
     
  15. Pahana

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    Yes, go figure that you'd recommend someone to watch television. Go figure. That explains quite a lot about why you believe the things you do. You watch too much TV!

    As for evolution, I believe in it also. Though not Darwin's materialist verson. I believe in spiritual evolution, the evolution or "evolvement" of consciousness. On this note, you've apparently missed the boat.
     
  16. Pahana

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    Yeah, YOU are an attention whore. If you don't like what we have to say...then kindly take yourself out of this forum and find yourself another place to chitchat with sleepwalking robots such as yourself. Why, there's even a "TV" section on this site! Check it out.
     
  17. Crazy Horse

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    Jesus Christ... This has suddenly just gotten too pathetic for me. I thought of writing more... Maybe asking for an explanation of how I'm "Just like other CTs".... or how Yeal seems to know me so well.... but I just don't care. Then I looked at this fool's web page, and now I'm just embarassed to be here. Maybe some people can never be reached. Fuck it. As for the rest of you..... Maybe buy y'all a beer one day. Cheers.
     
  18. Zorba The Grape

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    Oh, now he's 23! I love how he does that.
     
  19. OlderWaterBrother

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    Thanx from you I consider that a complement.
    You should follow your own advice.
    And you started this post off with what?
     
  20. Yeal

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    I only watch TV when Heroes is on. And it starts up 9/22, and I'm pumped. Sometimes I'll order a new movie on demand or something, but thats about it. You don't know me, I know me. I definently don't watch too much TV, haha. I just got back from playing soccer for 4 hours with all my friends.

    And I'm not a fucking zombie, lol. And I'm glad you believe in evolution, seriously.
     

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