Yeah, wow. I am glad to think that maybe we can see eye to eye on this. That's something, isn't it? I am always fascinated with the way words, meaning and reality work together, especially the way a word or two makes such a substantial difference. I am also convinced by experience that, like all human beings, I am, in effect, a psychological, sociological, mythological, symbolic creature. My relationship to the universe is so deeply, irresistably influenced by what I think and feel, how my friends, family, neighbors and "enemies" think and feel and behave with me, what I believe reality is, what others say they believe reality is, and how they might think and feel and behave according to their belief. Thoughts and feelings, behavior, beliefs and the means one uses to communicate these things to others. I think it is wise to seek clarity about these things. Peace and Love
I believe every word of it man, one day I just did alot of thinking and came to the conclusion thats it is all made up. I just believe that "God" isn't in any kind of form seeing that supposely "God" created the universe. Hell, I dont even think we have a form because when we die our body dies and stays here. Lol yeah its hilarious when someone tells you that "your going straight to hell" for not believing in what they believe in. I would think they would be going there to this fiction place as well for saying that.
Why bother fighting about this at all. I mean I enjoy a good debate as much (if not more) than the next person. But getting violent and angry or staring holy wars like some people about things like this is unneeded. I think the belief or denial of the existence of (a)God/dess is unnecessary.
O well, now that you said that, it's just so obvious, isn't it? At least you're consistant, which is something I've come to appreciate. I can't stand those people who state that an Earth or Sky god might exist, but a universal god cannot. In essence, that states that one type of "invisible man" can exist, but not another. There is no logical grounds for this assumption... Besides, if one believes that many gods made the Earth, Waters, and Air, that is already far fetched. What is the significant difference in believing that One controls All? Since the subject doesn't seem to believe in human emotional attachments, there is very little to interject here. Except for, why does fear and guilt play a part in the decision making process, unless all of our observations pertaining to a particular matter are built upon guilt and fear? Is this not indicative of something within our lives that we are not comfortable about, i.e., our personal spiritual development, or what we "owe" another person for helping us out? I would question what difference this makes when the perceived phenomenon is just as real as it would be as if it were an action passed on from me to you. If I told you that Lucifer told me that, say, Beezlebub was residing in the dimension between the awake and the asleep, listening and recording everything we say to one another, plotting a miserable "reward"/vision/punishment for the both of us, we're sure to lose out. The Devourer takes no prisoners... In fact, I saw a case this week where a man was exposed to asbestos and had to wait a whole week to be tested. Asbestos readings are best taken as close to exposure as possible... This new reading was taken 10 days after exposure, rendering all tests negative as they had allegedly been contaminated by the X-rays. Which is actually not "new" at all... Once we release ourselves from attachments to this life, we are free to be as we are meant to be, within reason. The Jews refer to the Seven Noahcide Covenants, which transform Gentiles into G-d's Righteous People - This has nothing at all to do with "New Age" unless we are referencing Kabbalah. Which isn't new at all... It's merely an old discipline made new by popular interest. We've nothing in support of that statement. Granted, we have little in support of the opposing stance; However, if you desire to hold on to this argument, and pretend that anyone is a match, I'll gladly face them in a debate. I can agree with everything above except these four: Bibles, Prayers, Praise & Worship. The Bible plays a key part in laying down the foundation of our faith... May we never take this part lightly, or misconstrue what is being said. Prayers are a way for us to solidify our desires for ourselves and our brethern... We humble ourselves in hopes of their strong recovery. Praise/Thanks is "thanksgiving" for the provisions G-d (or whatever you call Him) has already made on our behalf, ex. the turkey dinner given to my grandma for Christmas... She had to work hard to clean it, but it was a large and filling meal when it was cooked. Therefore, positive thought/actions usually equal positive outcomes. Worship is something entirely different. This is when we praise G-d, regardless of how "good" or "bad" He's been to us, with the knowledge that He will preserve us, regardless of our circumstance. It is hard for us to critique an unfinished piece of art... Let's take comfort n the fact that *everyone else* is at such a loss as well. Definitely *stop* arguing, but also, definitely *start* talking. All the Hocus Pocus in the world isn't going to save a single soul - On the contrary, our foolish prattle may offend or confuse a hopeful convert. Instead, a change of heart/soul changes the self - Those changes usually happen internally before they are evident externally. Happy Holidays, my darling Pumpkin Pie... (Have I ever told you how much I like pumpkin pie? ) One question though: How can they be happy holy-days without being recognized as special or holy? Any answer will be appreciated. Love always, Julie.
And if I combine 2 parts muriatic acid and 1 part chunky peanut butter and spread it on my driveway I can turn concrete into diamonds.
Well before you rule out God all together, maybe you should read about the experience of this former avowed atheist. Rev. Howard Storm's near-death experience http://www.near-death.com/storm.html An Invitation to Hell From Strange Beings http://www.near-death.com/experiences/storm01.html A Rescue From Hell By Jesus Christ http://www.near-death.com/experiences/storm02.html
HOWARD STORM?!?!?!?! BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHA!!! Please. I watched his whole shtick on that documentary "Beyond whatever the fuck..." This guy is a complete moron and a pussy. Sorry, no offense to women's vaginas. I like you.
man if you dont belive there is any god and that we are alll gonna dissapear when we die, then why make such a fuss about convincing people there is no god. it gives them hope and you believe it will make no difference when they die anywway so let them belive